Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/14/14 10:38 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 
 
 On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
 common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
 installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
 machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
 running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
 computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
 without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
 regret the loss of OO 32 bit.  
 ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)

 Juergen
 
 The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
 should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.

I think I have already described why that is not easy possible and
requires much more work. We have good reasons to move to a newer MacOS
platform SDK (explained already) if we don't want to risk to run in
problems on newer or future MacOS versions. APIs are already deprecated
by Apple and we have to take this into account.

I also promised that we can give support if anybody is interested to
invest the time in supporting an older SDK than 10.7 and potentially
also a 32 bit version for MacOS.

Our plan is to focus on modern systems only and especially on Mac the
situation is different than on Linux. Newer Mac systems are all running
on 64 bit. It is not the question of 32 or 64 bit on Mac but more which
platform SDK we need as baseline.

To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.

And for Linux 32 bit binaries are not built automatically and we spent a
lot of time on it. We need an older baseline that is not supported by
infra on the Apache bots, means we can't easy use the build bots for our
releases. Where are the volunteers who take care of this? Where are the
volunteers who convince infra that we need at least 2 VMs (32 and 64
bit) that matches our baseline.
Currently it is not a problem and it is clear that 32 bit Linux is
widely used. But anybody who is requesting here the support should think
about it. I have enough other things to do and this is a community
project, anybody can help to provide the binaries on his own machine
that matches the baseline.


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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-15 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.


And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced 2 1/2 years ago is 
wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer attitude if you want it, do it yourself.


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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
 interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
 
 And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
 2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
 attitude if you want it, do it yourself.

yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
definitely won't work.

And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-15 Thread Larry Gusaas



On 2014-01-15, 3:38 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.

And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
attitude if you want it, do it yourself.

yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
definitely won't work.

And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.

Juergen


And that is the bane of open source software.

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-15 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)

On 15.01.2014 10:50, Larry Gusaas wrote:


 On 2014-01-15, 3:38 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
 interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
 And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
 2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
 attitude if you want it, do it yourself.
 yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
 if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
 definitely won't work.

 And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.

 Juergen

 And that is the bane of open source software.
No. AFAIK Apple, the commercial entity that produced and sold and developed 
software for PPC has
stopped doing so, EOL policy.

---

The boon of open source software is, that everyone *can* take the source and 
compile it for PPC.

Alternatively, other software products using AOO source code like LO can 
support such a platform.
From your comments it seems to be the case that a LO port for PPC exists, so 
why not suggest that
and use it, if you have extraordinary needs?

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
   On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
   1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
   after the confluence update).
  
   An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
   found under [2].
  
   Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
   versions will be 64 bit.
  
   Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
   problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the
 Apache
   builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
   baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
  
  
   OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for
 32-bit
   Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
 
  do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
  Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
 
  I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
  builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
 
  Juergen

 Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common
 among developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux
 advocates who migrate older users to cast off machines from children.  My
 own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I
 am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put
 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly
 anything. I would regret the loss of OO 32 bit.


I also am on 32-bit Linux and I think others here may be as well. Yes, I do
have an older computer but I'm happy with it for now. So, WAH!, on the idea
of dropping the 32-bit binaries.

On my original question/complaint. I could change the buildbot script to
generate rpms (I think the 32 bit linux snapshot is only building for
deb, en-US currently), but probably this buildbot instance would then
need to be restarted, which, I can't do.




 
 
  
   And...???
  
   Looking at:
  
   http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
  
   the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now /trunk (used for
   nightly) is at: 1557669
   and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
  
   Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
   maintains the page above.
  
  
   I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together
 with
   additional information how to test and use them.
  
   Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
   in the next snapshot.
  
   Juergen
  
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
Linux is running under 64bit mainly.


No, it isn't. 32-bit was still a clear winner for the whole 2013:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/ee577c6b-74ca-472a-b698-b8488748e0dd
(as you see, 64-bit between 20 and 50% of the Linux downloads; it is 
growing and reached 50% in December, but it will take a while before 
32-bit becomes negligible).



I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
builds. Any opinions?


The above already shows that we can't drop 64-bit now. Additionally, a 
significant percentage of Linux installation probably starts from a 
live media installation, and for maximum compatibility these are often 
32-bit. So it may well happen that 64-bit capable hardware still runs a 
32-bit distribution.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-14 Thread Larry Gusaas



On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among developers, 
but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to 
cast off machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu 
and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and 
put 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would 
regret the loss of OO 32 bit.  

ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)

Juergen


The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you should continue offering 
32 bit for Macs.


How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend LibreOffice to 
Mac PowerPC users.

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/14/2014 10:38 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:



On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
regret the loss of OO 32 bit. 

ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)

Juergen


The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.

How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend
LibreOffice to Mac PowerPC users.


Just a side note, so please don't take it personally:

Our longterm supporter, Maho, has given up himself to support this 
platform (I don't know at the moment why, maybe broken hardware ?). So, 
we have no hardware for building, testing, releasing - and would need to 
get (buy) this hardware to go on with AOO. ;-)


Apple has switched from PPC to Intel in 2006 and Mac OS X 10.5 in 2007 
was the last version for PPC. So, these users have no chance anymore to 
upgrade their OS. I think especially Apple users like to have the newest 
stuff and I wouldn't expect that there are many people doing their daily 
work only on a PPC machine.


BTW:
With the work Herbert is doing (new baseline for Mac's will be 10.7) it 
would be the end anyway.


My 2 ct.

Marcus


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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-14 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2014-01-14, 4:05 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 01/14/2014 10:38 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:



On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
regret the loss of OO 32 bit. 

ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)

Juergen


The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.

How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend
LibreOffice to Mac PowerPC users.


Just a side note, so please don't take it personally:

Our longterm supporter, Maho, has given up himself to support this platform (I don't know at 
the moment why, maybe broken hardware ?). So, we have no hardware for building, testing, 
releasing - and would need to get (buy) this hardware to go on with AOO. ;-)


Maho was a great asset.

As for no hardware, that is the same line Oracle, and Sun before them used.



Apple has switched from PPC to Intel in 2006 and Mac OS X 10.5 in 2007 was the last version 
for PPC. So, these users have no chance anymore to upgrade their OS. I think especially Apple 
users like to have the newest stuff and I wouldn't expect that there are many people doing 
their daily work only on a PPC machine.


Apple hardware is extremely long lived. Many people still use PPC Macs. Check out 
http://lowendmac.com




BTW:
With the work Herbert is doing (new baseline for Mac's will be 10.7) it would 
be the end anyway.


Abandoning older versions of OS X is a big mistake. Many people can't, or will not, update from 
OS X version 10.6.xx for very valid reasons.  There are even better reasons to continue 32 bit 
versions of AOO than for 32 bit Linux.




My 2 ct.

Marcus



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[RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
after the confluence update).

An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
found under [2].

Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
versions will be 64 bit.

Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.

I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
additional information how to test and use them.

Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
in the next snapshot.

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/13/14 2:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
 after the confluence update).
 
 An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
 found under [2].
 
 Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
 versions will be 64 bit.
 
 Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
 problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
 builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
 baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
 
 I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
 additional information how to test and use them.
 
 Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
 in the next snapshot.
 
 Juergen
 

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

[2]
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Snapshot_fixes_1524958_1556251.html

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
 after the confluence update).

 An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
 found under [2].

 Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
 versions will be 64 bit.

 Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
 problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
 builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
 baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.


OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..

And...???

Looking at:

http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now /trunk (used for
nightly) is at: 1557669
and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251

Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
maintains the page above.


 I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
 additional information how to test and use them.

 Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
 in the next snapshot.

 Juergen

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi,

 I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
 after the confluence update).

 An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
 found under [2].

 Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
 versions will be 64 bit.

 Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
 problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
 builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
 baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.

 
 OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
 Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..

do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
Linux is running under 64bit mainly.

I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)

Juergen


 
 And...???
 
 Looking at:
 
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
 
 the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now /trunk (used for
 nightly) is at: 1557669
 and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
 
 Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
 maintains the page above.
 
 
 I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
 additional information how to test and use them.

 Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
 in the next snapshot.

 Juergen

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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
  jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
  1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
  after the confluence update).
 
  An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
  found under [2].
 
  Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
  versions will be 64 bit.
 
  Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
  problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
  builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
  baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
 
  
  OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
  Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
 
 do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
 Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
 
 I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
 builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
 
 Juergen

Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among 
developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates 
who migrate older users to cast off machines from children.  My own main 
editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to 
salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on 
it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would regret 
the loss of OO 32 bit.


 
 
  
  And...???
  
  Looking at:
  
  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
  
  the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now /trunk (used for
  nightly) is at: 1557669
  and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
  
  Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
  maintains the page above.
  
  
  I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
  additional information how to test and use them.
 
  Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
  in the next snapshot.
 
  Juergen
 
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921

2014-01-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt 
 jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
 after the confluence update).

 An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
 found under [2].

 Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
 versions will be 64 bit.

 Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
 problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
 builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
 baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.


 OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
 Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..

 do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
 Linux is running under 64bit mainly.

 I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
 builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)

 Juergen
 
 Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among 
 developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates 
 who migrate older users to cast off machines from children.  My own main 
 editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to 
 salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux 
 on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would 
 regret the loss of OO 32 bit.
 

ok, I should take off my developer glasses ;-)

Juergen

 



 And...???

 Looking at:

 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

 the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now /trunk (used for
 nightly) is at: 1557669
 and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251

 Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
 maintains the page above.


 I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
 additional information how to test and use them.

 Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
 in the next snapshot.

 Juergen

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