Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

I have added a news item and also made a few minor changes building on Stefan's commit earlier today and the discussion in the thread (r1890232). I'll sleep on it and merge to publish tomorrow afternoon (CET). Feel free to comment or improve! When preparing the merge, I noticed that I've

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Logging by colabti is now moved to our new libera #svn and #svn-dev channels. https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn-dev Cheers, Nathan

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Stefan Sperling wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 15:45 +00:00: > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 05:29:49PM +0200, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > > I can draft a short news item and put it on staging. I think it should be > > low key ("we have decided to move"), or does someone think we should make a > > statement

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On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 05:29:49PM +0200, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > I can draft a short news item and put it on staging. I think it should be > low key ("we have decided to move"), or does someone think we should make a > statement ("we move because XXX is a [insert suitable invective]")? We don't

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:30 AM Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > > Den ons 26 maj 2021 kl 17:08 skrev Daniel Shahaf : >> >> Nathan Hartman wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 11:02 +00:00: >> > Should we announce (and is it appropriate to do so) the change of venue >> > on our announce@s.a.o list? >> >> I don't

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 15:29 +00:00: > > Den ons 26 maj 2021 kl 17:08 skrev Daniel Shahaf : > > Nathan Hartman wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 11:02 +00:00: > > > Should we announce (and is it appropriate to do so) the change of venue > > > on our announce@s.a.o list? > > > > I

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Den ons 26 maj 2021 kl 17:08 skrev Daniel Shahaf : > Nathan Hartman wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 11:02 +00:00: > > Should we announce (and is it appropriate to do so) the change of venue > > on our announce@s.a.o list? > > I don't think it's important enough for announce@, but we could mention > it

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Nathan Hartman wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 11:02 +00:00: > Should we announce (and is it appropriate to do so) the change of venue > on our announce@s.a.o list? I don't think it's important enough for announce@, but we could mention it on /index.html, /news.html, on dev@ + users@, and wherever

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Martin Edgar Furter Rathod wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 06:33 +00:00: > On 25.05.21 01:40, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > I've gone ahead and moved wayita to libera. > > > > I wanted to keep a copy on freenode, but forgot to change the pointer to > > the sqlite database, and I'm not sure whether it's

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Stefan Sperling wrote on Wed, 26 May 2021 07:42 +00:00: > Be prepared for a possibility of losing control of our freenode channels. > This morning there were channel takeovers on freenode, of channels which > mention the competing libera network in their topic. Two examples of many: > >

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:58 AM Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:52:42AM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:41:28AM +0200, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > > > Considering latest development (the channel takeovers mentioned by > Stefan > > > Sperling in

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On 25.05.21 01:40, Daniel Shahaf wrote: I've gone ahead and moved wayita to libera. I wanted to keep a copy on freenode, but forgot to change the pointer to the sqlite database, and I'm not sure whether it's possible to use the same set of factoids for two different IRC servers. The Wayita

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:52:42AM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:41:28AM +0200, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > > Considering latest development (the channel takeovers mentioned by Stefan > > Sperling in another part of the thread), I'd suggest that we switch the > > website.

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 10:41:28AM +0200, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > Considering latest development (the channel takeovers mentioned by Stefan > Sperling in another part of the thread), I'd suggest that we switch the > website. I would go for a more drastic change than Nathan's patch (which > looked

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Den mån 24 maj 2021 kl 07:23 skrev Nathan Hartman : > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:24 AM Nathan Hartman > wrote: > > Since channels exist on both services now, I think the freenode > > channels should be marked "deprecated" and kept around for some > > period of time; I have no particular

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 09:42:36AM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:10:40PM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > I've gone ahead and moved wayita to libera. > > > > I wanted to keep a copy on freenode, but forgot to change the pointer to > > the sqlite database, and I'm not

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:10:40PM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > I've gone ahead and moved wayita to libera. > > I wanted to keep a copy on freenode, but forgot to change the pointer to > the sqlite database, and I'm not sure whether it's possible to use the > same set of factoids for two

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

I've gone ahead and moved wayita to libera. I wanted to keep a copy on freenode, but forgot to change the pointer to the sqlite database, and I'm not sure whether it's possible to use the same set of factoids for two different IRC servers.

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, 24 May 2021 12:14 +00:00: > On 24.05.2021 10:00, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > > The more I think of it, the more I favour a move. But we should do > > what we can to avoid having the channel considered abandoned. > > As long as someone with channel op privileges is on the

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On 24.05.2021 10:00, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: Den mån 24 maj 2021 kl 09:22 skrev Branko Čibej >: Obviously we shouldn't abandon the channel, but I'm sure there's a way to automagically reply to posts with a link to the Libera channel(s). It's debatable

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Den mån 24 maj 2021 kl 09:22 skrev Branko Čibej : > Obviously we shouldn't abandon the channel, but I'm sure there's a way > to automagically reply to posts with a link to the Libera channel(s). > It's debatable whether that amounts to squatting ... but there are far > too many existing links to

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On 24.05.2021 08:47, Daniel Sahlberg wrote: Den sön 23 maj 2021 kl 21:21 skrev Stefan Sperling >: On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 03:02:08PM +0200, Branko Čibej wrote: > Every time I hear (or read) someone explaining how "one of my companies is > funding this

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Den sön 23 maj 2021 kl 21:21 skrev Stefan Sperling : > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 03:02:08PM +0200, Branko Čibej wrote: > > Every time I hear (or read) someone explaining how "one of my companies > is > > funding this free service", I grab my wallet and run away. "Monetizing" > > community-lead and

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:24 AM Nathan Hartman wrote: > Since channels exist on both services now, I think the freenode > channels should be marked "deprecated" and kept around for some > period of time; I have no particular suggestion on how long that > should be, but I guess until the dust

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 03:02:08PM +0200, Branko Čibej wrote: > Every time I hear (or read) someone explaining how "one of my companies is > funding this free service", I grab my wallet and run away. "Monetizing" > community-lead and -created services has been a thing since before the > Internet.

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On 21.05.2021 09:22, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:15:23PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote: For contrast: "The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate" http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ It took me a while to find an

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:15:23PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote: > For contrast: > "The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly > Disproportionate" > http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ > > It took me a while to find an article that covered the issue in

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

For contrast: "The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate" http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ It took me a while to find an article that covered the issue in what seems a more balanced way than most, and I just want to share that.

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:24 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:18 AM Stefan Sperling wrote: >> >> >> In order to signal our move to the new IRC service, I believe we should >> mark our freenode channels as 'moved to libera.chat' in their topic lines, >> as soon as we have

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:18 AM Stefan Sperling wrote: > > In order to signal our move to the new IRC service, I believe we should > mark our freenode channels as 'moved to libera.chat' in their topic lines, > as soon as we have consensus in this project that we indeed want to move. > > Are

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

The topic of the IRC Matrix Bridges room ( https://matrix.to/#/#irc:matrix.org ) now says "A libera.chat bridge is underway - stay tuned..." :-) Stefan Sperling wrote: > OK, then let's focus on a possible Freenode -> Libera move first. > > Daniel Shahaf and myself have control of #svn and

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:43:43AM +0100, Julian Foad wrote: > Stefan Sperling wrote: > > Keeping a matrix bridge to the current freenode channels alive means we're > > not actually leaving this network. To support the former freenode staff it > > makes more sense to switch IRC server *and*

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

Stefan Sperling wrote: > First thing I checked was which clients are available for me to install > on OpenBSD systems. [...] Apart from web clients (e.g. https://fluffychat.im/web/ , https://app.element.io/ ) which should work "fine" subject to the inherent limitations of web clients, your

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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 07:23:43PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote: > Looks like we might want to move our channels, bots, and so on? > Libera.chat [2] has been posited as a direct replacement. > However, the sane replacement these days is Matrix [1]. I understand Matrix has more modern technology,

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

The owner of the IRC logs [1] is "feb" in the channel #irclogger (or via matrix [2]). [1] https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/svn-dev [2] https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#irclogger:matrix.org - Julian

Re: Migrate off Freenode IRC?

FYI: The following is a great write-up exploring the messaging system issues facing the GNOME community, commending gradual migration from IRC to Matrix. It has a particular focus on the impossibility of ever perfectly bridging between the two systems, and a wider focus on why this migration