Re: Don't add default contents in `fedpkg request-branch` tickets Was: Re: can we merge package.cfg into master

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > On Friday, October 4, 2019 10:57:05 AM CEST Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > > > > > Le jeu. 3 oct. 2019 à 21:40, Pavel Raiskup a écrit : > > > > > > > > On Friday, September 27, 2019

Re: Impact of dropping QEMU emulation on 32-bit hosts ? (~Fedora 33)

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 05:50, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > OK at the moment it looks like we seem to average 311,000 ip addresses > > per day doing a daily checkin for Fedora. Out of those ~13,400 are > > x86_32. The majority of the x86_32 are

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 11:20, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 03. 10. 19 v 15:56 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > > On 03. 10. 19 15:23, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> > >> Dne 03. 10. 19 v 11:58 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > >>> Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 03. 10. 19 1:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm not sure

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 20:33, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:28:37AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> The problem does not only happen if the module is a non-leaf at module > >> level, but there can also be conflicts at package level, if the modules >

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 14:29, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > My main gripe is the current situation where users are thrown under the > > bus and then we give them a business card and say: read these > > instruction to figure out how to save yourself. > > I think this is unacceptable. > > Ordinary

Re: module package exclusion behavior on EL8

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:28, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > I continue to run into strange (at least to me) issues with modules on > EL8. RHEL8 ships a 'rhn-tools' module that ships only the "koan" > package from the cobbler srpm [1]. When this module is enabled, I > cannot install cobbler from my

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 16:28, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 05:53:26PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > There has been a shrinking packager problem for years due to multiple > > problems > > Has there? I'm not really seeing a significant change i

Re: koji web interface is very slow

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 09:19, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:13 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > > > On Friday, 11 October 2019 at 04:36, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > On 10/10/19 4:57 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > > On 10/10/19 9:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >

Looking for new maintainer: nagios, nagios-plugins, nrpe

2020-02-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
I have been maintaining nagios, nagios-plugins, and nrpe for a couple of years but currently I do not have much time to put towards the packages and won't until 2021 at my current rate. Last week, I emailed various people who have co-maintainer rights on the package, but haven't had anyone reply.

Re: State of FMN (FedMSG Notifications) and Replacement

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 15:58, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:26:09AM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > FMN (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications) is currently one of > the > > main blocking point for dropping fedmsg in favour of fedora-messaging. > > FMN is

Re: Strange covert module builds [sbergmann ?]

2020-03-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 07:32, Michal Schorm wrote: > Can you please brief me really quick on how does the flatpack work > from maintainer POV? (what does it need for build / creation; what > does it need for runtime ) > > If the flatpack uses the packages from base Fedora; >

Re: Downgrading from rawhide

2020-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 10:10, Christophe de Dinechin wrote: > Is there any documented procedure to safely downgrade from rawhide to > the latest release? > > I tried > > # dnf update --releasever=32 fedora-release > # dnf distro-sync --allowerasing --skip-broken > > Does something like that have

Re: Announcing start of DNF 5 development

2020-03-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 11:42, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 06.03.2020 o 02:57, Neal Gompa pisze: > > The database has been synchronized since Fedora 24. However, the > > caches are not, and that *does* need to be fixed. > > And when user calls dnf let it use system cache by default... > > >

Re: Looking for new maintainer: nagios, nagios-plugins, nrpe

2020-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
tem. > > Thanks! > > > On Feb 24, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > I have been maintaining nagios, nagios-plugins, and nrpe for a couple > > of years but currently I do not have much time to put towards the > > packages and won't until 2021 at

Re: Ideas and proposal for removing changelog and release fields from spec file

2020-02-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 11:50, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > This topic has already been discussed a few times over the past month, but > Adam > Saleh, Nils Philippsen and myself have had the opportunity to invest some > time > on it with the hope of making the packager's

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 06:10, Damian Ivanov wrote: > > Maybe now that RH is part of IBM they have changed their short sighted view > of not collaborating on a better build system like OBS. That is looking for a boogeyman under the bed to blame something that has a long long history of not

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 05:14, Andrew Haley wrote: > > On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > > N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in > > their Fedora execution. But they maintain only the JVM, and not > > the rest of the Java ecosystem. :-) > > Thank you. > > One

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 09:46, Damian Ivanov wrote: > > >That is looking for a boogeyman under the bed to blame something that > >has a long long history of not happening. Ever since OBS has been out, > >there has been a yearly 'why isn't Fedora moving to OBS' thread > > It has always been a bad

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 11:38, Clement Verna wrote: > > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> >> these heroics related to pagure? >> >> If not, I'm not sure what is the point you were trying to make for this >> thread. > > > My point is that we have to dedicate a team

Re: epel8: BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot

2020-01-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 06:06, Jiri Kucera wrote: > > Hello, > > when doing `fedpkg scratch-build --target epel8-candidate --srpm > sox-14.4.2.0-29.el8.src.rpm`, I get: > So there seems to be something off in koji and the repo is not getting properly regenerated after the repo gets updated.

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-02-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 17:59, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Richard Shaw writes: > > > Not replying to anyone in particular but to the thead as a whole... > > > > 1. Nothing in the packager introduction process prepares a packager > > for what to do when they get a CVE filed against one of their > >

Re: epel8: BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot

2020-01-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 20:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 07:57:22AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 06:06, Jiri Kucera wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > when doing `fedpkg scratch-build --target

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-02-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 03:32, Michal Konecny wrote: > > > On 06/02/2020 22:13, Till Maas wrote: > As a package maintainer, I can easily request commit/admin access for > >a specific branch or dist-git repo. > I add one more requirement based on my own workflow: > - As fedora user, I want to

Re: kernel rpm split

2020-02-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 09:28, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:37:05AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 8:27 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 12:09:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > > >

Turning off keys.fedoraproject.org

2020-02-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Fedora has been part of an GPG sks service[1] for a number of years running off of keys.fedoraproject.org. Last year, there were a number of attacks made on the service which due to its 'write-only' nature makes it impossible to clean up [2] [3]. When the attacks came up, and it was clear it was

Re: Copr Build System - review of 2019 and vote for features in 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 06:04, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > IMHO, this whole "delete by default" concept is inherently flawed and > > dangerous and cannot be fixed. Notification e-mails can be lost in so many > > ways (wrong Fedora notification settings, e-mail provider issues,

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 05:41, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:32:46AM +0100, Guido Aulisi wrote: > > Il giorno mar 28 gen 2020 alle ore 10:04 Richard W.M. Jones > > ha scritto: > > > > > > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > > > It's

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 12:17, Martin Kolman wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:28 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:58 PM Milan Crha wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 11:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > they all picked GitLab CE. > > > > > > Hi, > > > I

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 13:01, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to > > maintain 100+ (things like the ocaml-* set that I help to

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 13:49, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 01:08:11PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 13:01, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > > > > > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > > > > &g

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 14:01, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Stephen John Smoogen [28/01/2020 13:08] : > > > > You are assuming that maintainers actually check to see if a version > > fixes an issue already. If a packager has 100's or 1000's of > > packages.. there is

Re: infrastructure problem: koji and bodhi responding very slow / dl with 80kb/s

2020-02-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 06:21, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:59 AM Artem Tim wrote: > >> Same here. I am waiting several minutes for every my action. This is very >> unproductive. >> > > Log it as a ticket and I can get the CPE folks to investigate it and see > if there

Re: mock build failures for f32/33

2020-02-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 13:55, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 2/18/20 8:49 AM, Till Hofmann wrote: > > On 2/18/20 3:44 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> I am unable to build packages using mock for either f32 or f33 which is > >> very problematic. > > Afaik you need mock from updates-testing for the

Re: Announcement: EPEL Steering Committee Changes

2020-02-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 01:01, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:35:26 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It has been a pleasure for me to be a part of and help lead the > > EPEL steering committee for the last couple of yea

Re: Include non-RPM content in buildroot

2020-02-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 09:58, Martin Sehnoutka wrote: > > Hi, > > before I write the proposal itself I just want to stress the fact that > it isn’t my intention to change the current packaging workflow and > definitely not the user experience. Also if you have C or Python > packages it would not

Re: koji build fails on arch armv7hl

2020-02-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 10:07, John Reiser wrote: > On 2/10/20 6:20 AM, Martin Gansser wrote: > > > the koji build on armv7h fails by this command: > > koji build rawhide --arch=armv7hl --scratch > /home/martin/rpmbuild/SRPMS/speed-dreams-2.2.2-6.fc31.src.rpm > > >File

Re: koji build fails on arch armv7hl

2020-02-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 10:24, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > Linux buildvm-armv7-07.arm.fedoraproject.org 5.3.13-300.fc31.armv7hl+lpae > #1 SMP Mon Nov 25 17:13:28 UTC 2019 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux > > will work with release engineering to see if they can ta

Re: Who maintains the service at mbs.fedoraproject.org:443?

2020-02-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 06:47, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > mbs.fedoraproject.org is maintained by Infrastructure Team [1]. You > can report issues at [2]. > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure > [2] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues mbs like some other services are

Announcement: EPEL Steering Committee Changes

2020-02-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Hi, It has been a pleasure for me to be a part of and help lead the EPEL steering committee for the last couple of years. It has not always been smooth sailing but I have found it an enjoyable experience. However, as you may know the Fedora project will be moving to a different data-center later

Re: Lagging system with latest kernels

2020-01-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 07:37, Jan Grulich wrote: > > I did some search again. It looks many other distributions (Ubuntu, Arch, > Manjaro) have this issue as well. Users report this as a regression since > kernel 4.2. Some suggested to disable swap, which makes this problem go away > for them. I'm

Re: Mock build Fedora package on CentOS 7

2020-01-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 12:08, Ian Pilcher wrote: > > Is $SUBJECT possible these days? > > I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but > the build is failing with: > >ERROR: builddep command missing. >Please install package dnf-plugins-core. > > This happens even

Re: What would it take to drop release and changelog from our spec files? (and do we want to?)

2020-01-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 15:23, Joe Doss wrote: > > On 1/12/20 3:19 PM, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Am 10.01.20 um 17:36 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon: > >> Good Morning Everyone, > >> > >> This is not a new idea, it has been presented at flock last year and > spoken > >> about on this very list this

Re: gcc 10: Default to -fno-common, multiple definitions of ...

2020-01-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:54, Christoph Junghans wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:42 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> jtaylornetsniff-ng ocaml-lablgtk suricata >> junghans gasnet > > Sorry, how do I install gcc10 on Rawhide? > "dnf upgrade --advisory=FEDORA-2020-a165791b6f" doesn't seem

Re: Effort to remove libdb

2020-01-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Mark Reynolds wrote: > > > On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote: > >> 389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is > >> dependent on libdb.

Re: Effort to remove libdb

2020-01-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote: > > 389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is > dependent on libdb. We are currently working towards moving to LMDB, but > that work is probably a year away from being fully complete. We are > hoping/planning to

Re: Effort to remove libdb

2020-01-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 15:42, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Mark Reynolds wrote: > > > > > > On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote: > > >> 389 Director

Re: Effort to remove libdb

2020-01-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 01:16, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said: > > Is there any software or service that currently uses Berkeley DB that > > cannot reasonably be discarded and rebuilt from scratch for new > > versions of that software, without Berkeley DB

Re: Alternative buildroot as a development tool

2020-01-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 04:33, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Le jeudi 16 janvier 2020 à 22:24 -0500, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > Hi Neal, > > > I've also said that I don't think we can handle it as our > > infrastructure currently stands. Our build system tooling has > > suffered from a decade

Re: Effort to remove libdb

2020-01-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 03:59, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 1/17/20 3:03 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 01:16, Chris Adams wrote: > >> > >> Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said: > >>> Is there any software

Re: Blanket approval for EPEL packages

2020-01-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 04:35, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Hi, > > There used to be page with blanket approval for EPEL packages. Is there > still something like this? It is tiring to respond all the EPEL request > I don't really care about. > The page went away because it had not 'worked' but people

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 03:05, Benson Muite wrote: > > >> Thank you for the PDF. However, the presentation is sightly outdated > >> given the listed hardware dating from 2008. Some modern laptops are > >> equipped with a IR camera Windows Hello type device which could be > >> suitable for iris

Re: How to obsolede module?

2020-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 07:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 6:01 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:21:40AM -0500, Josef Ridky wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Does anyone know, how can I obsolete modular version of package? > > > > > > TL;DR > > > > > > I

Outage for 2020-01-13: Fedora Infrastructure Staging Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
#8504 Planned Outage - Fedora Staging - 2020-01-13 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified 4 hours ago Open There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-13 21:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at

Outage for 2020-01-14: Fedora Build Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
8505 Planned Outage - Fedora Build Systems - 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified 2 minutes ago Open Planned Outage - Fedora Build Systems - 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC

Outage for 2020-01-15: Fedora Prod Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
#8506 Planned Outage - Fedoraproject.org - 2020-01-15 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified a day ago Open Planned Outage - Fedoraproject.org - 2020-01-15 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-15 21:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your

Re: [Test-Announce] Taskotron Going EOL on 2020-04-30

2020-03-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 03:04:20PM +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:05 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > On 07. 03. 20 0:29, Tim Flink wrote: > > > > If you have any questions about this, feel free to reply

Re: co-maintainer wanted for fuse-sshfs in EPEL8

2020-03-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 13:51, James Cassell wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > Thanks Vascom, > > > > I'm not the maintainer so I can't add you, but I'll copy the > > maintainer here as well, just to see if he'll see it. In case he > > doesn't can you reply to the

Re: Rawhide update from side tag pending for 2 days

2020-04-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
For each of these stuck builds could you open up tickets in https://pagure.io/releng/new_issue so we can track them down and fix them. Currently there are 1.5 sysadmins and 1.5 release engineer and we are not going to be able to track what and where we are doing things from mailing list posts. On

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 13:34, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Aoife Moloney writes: > > > * We found a password, we do not know whose it is, but we have turned > > it into the lost and found. > > I'm sorry, what? Can you explain what this is and what it means? > > This was something I slipped in to see

Re: Outage: Migration of Copr servers - 2020-02-23 06:00 UTC

2020-04-12 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 07:33, Jun Aruga wrote: > > > Any update for Copr ppc64le chroots? > > > > Not yet, the HW is still not assembled in new lab. > > > > Pavel > > Do you know when it will be available? > If it takes some time, how about using qemu emulation for the ppc64le > chroot for now?

Re: Why does Koschei not run real builds?

2020-04-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 17:28, clime wrote: > > > and lines like this: > > > > https://pagure.io/Fedora-Infra/rpmautospec/blob/3c208f17329940977cbe1552f3d1bbee35014f93/f/rpmautospec/tag_package.py#_53 > > > are not needed? > > > > This is not involved in the computation of the next release value.

Re: RFC: entering luks password on grub level for devices without keyboards

2020-03-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 13:56, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Tomasz Torcz writes: > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:12:43PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > >> Am 15.03.20 um 13:32 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: > >> > On 14.03.2020 13:05, Marius Schwarz wrote: > >> >> If you encrypt the fedora ( or

Re: EPEL8 - unable to build package due to non-responsive maintainer of dependencies

2020-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 11:28, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 07:00, Ján ONDREJ wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am maintainer of TurboGears packages in Fedora. After release of RHEL8, >> I am trying to build it for EPEL. Bu

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 10:54, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 02:08:57PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:29:50PM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > No, rpm doesn't use many Linux-specific calls and this is no > > > exception. In fact it

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 08:16, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > >There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for > >things that don't really seems critical to the Fedora Project, for > example > >do we

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 14:57, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 12:06 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:57, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Paul Frields > > > wrote: > >

Re: Could we increase koji retention time for releng builds?

2020-03-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 09:07, Artur Iwicki wrote: > Today, Miro sent out a message [1] about FTBFS packages to be orphaned > soon. On the list I saw one package that's of interest to me, so I figured > I should take a look - maybe I'll be able to fix it and submit a Pull > Request to dist-git. >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 09:20, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 2:36 PM clime wrote: > > > > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:34, Aleksandra Fedorova > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:25 PM clime > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I think it would be

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:57, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Paul Frields > wrote: > > For a solution to be viable it needs to meet requirements. > > Of course, but the problem is that the requirements identified by CPE > are wildly inconsistent with the actual

Re: EPEL8 - unable to build package due to non-responsive maintainer of dependencies

2020-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 07:00, Ján ONDREJ wrote: > Hello, > > I am maintainer of TurboGears packages in Fedora. After release of RHEL8, > I am trying to build it for EPEL. But there are some dependencies, which > are not satisfied yet. What complicates my work is, that the unresponsible >

Re: Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 07:07, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Installation fails like this: > > > > Running transaction > > Preparing: >1/1 > > Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 >1/1 > > Error

Re: App updates for the new AAA solution

2020-04-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 13:03, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 08:54:42PM +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > Am 23.04.2020 um 19:00 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 05:22:01PM +0100, Stephen Coady wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Development work has

Re: Renaming pythonXY packages to pythonX.Y (e.g. python39 to python3.9)

2020-04-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 18:44, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 29. 04. 20 21:42, Lloyd Kvam wrote: > >> What you say is true. I still don't agree that "python3.9" as a package > name > >> annoys humans. > > I am not a package pro, but simply reading along as an interested human > user. To me, adding > >

Re: WARNING: The pip package is not available, falling back to EasyInstall

2020-04-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 09:59, Luke Hinds wrote: > > Hey All, > > Trying to update a package and getting failures over: > > ~~~ > > WARNING: The pip package is not available, falling back to EasyInstall for > handling setup_requires/test_requires; this is deprecated and will be removed > in a

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 03:19, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Stephen John Smoogen: > > > No because the things that backups and rsync do works in a slow way. > > We can do the backup the look-aside cache with tar-balls in a couple > > of hours. We can also rsync that

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-12 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:47, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > > I haven't responded here for a few days - that doesn't mean I stopped > caring, quite the opposite, I've read every single response but the > thread grew so big that I wasn't able to keep up replying. > > Given all your valuable feedback, we

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-26

2020-05-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 13:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:08 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:55 AM Guido Aulisi wrote: > >> > >> Il giorno dom, 26/04/2020 alle 18.13 +0100, Aoife Moloney ha scritto: > >> > # CPE Weekly: 2020-04-26 > >> >

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 09:59, clime wrote: > > On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 20:58, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 08:39:19PM +0200, clime wrote: > > ...snip... please folks... please trim your posts? :) > > > > > These are some great stats! > > > > > > But I would like to note that

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 13:50, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:51 am, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > Those pages are needing some love and care as aarch64 should not be > > on it anymore. Currently the primary architectures that Fedora

Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

2020-05-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 09:17, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > David Kaufmann wrote: > > If abstentions would lower the necessary +1 votes, this would > > automatically give the author of a proposal a +1 vote for the proposal, > > depending on the author being in FESCo himself/herself. > > It would

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 09:15, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, > > Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? > > I see that it is not represented on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ > so I presume we no longer support installing this architecture. Is it > really only used for multilib,

Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

2020-05-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 10:34, Igor Raits wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 09:27 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 09:17, Kevin Kofler > > wrote: > > > David Kaufmann wrote: &

Re: Is dist-git a good place for work?

2020-05-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 06:54, clime wrote: > > Dne čt 7. kvě 2020 12:19 uživatel Vít Ondruch napsal: >> >> >> Dne 06. 05. 20 v 20:39 clime napsal(a): >> > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:21, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:37 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Dne 05. 05. 20 v

Re: Slow boot on F32 Workstation

2020-03-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 08:46 Andreas Tunek wrote: > I sidegraded my rawhide install to F32 a couple of weeks ago and from the > start I noticed that booting F32 was really slow. I assumed this was some > kind of bug or some devel stuff and would get solved. > > However, I still have the problem

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:39, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 19. 05. 20 v 14:03 Richard Shaw napsal(a): > > Because Qt 5.13.x / PySide2 5.13.x is NOT compatible with Python 3.8. > But instead of asking ourselves, "should we push > > in the VERY latest Python and hope it's ok?", we just patch the

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 13:31, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 04:03:46PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 02:35:13PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:50:55PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > > > > > > > 4. The benefit we want to

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 07:27, Mario Torre wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:04 AM Hans de Goede > wrote: > > > So for this tomcat needed for testing problem, I'm thinking that we > > might solve this in a very non Fedora way. Why not bundle the old > > tomcat-sources with the sources which

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 09:37, Björn Persson wrote: > Guido Aulisi wrote: > > IMHO we could package only the JDK and let the user use Java software > directly from upstream. > > Usually upstream means Apache, which is a trusted source, and Java users > are smart enough to manage the Java packages.

Re: services impact on startup times

2020-08-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:39, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, August 31, 2020 5:46:47 AM MST Peter Oliver wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:27:33 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > Unless systemd timers run crontab entries, crond and atd cannot be > > > disabled. > > > >

Re: Bodhi failed to get a resource from PDC ...

2020-10-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
This outage should be over. On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 07:50, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 13:43:57 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Bodhi fails with this error message. Any suggestion on how to continue? > > > > Builds : Unable to create update. > > Bodhi failed to get a

Re: Could Bodhi create some temporary repositories before composes are ready?

2020-10-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 12:21, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:06:59 PM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 03:16, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > The KMail app stopped working for me today, and I realized there's > > >

Re: Could Bodhi create some temporary repositories before composes are ready?

2020-10-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 03:16, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The KMail app stopped working for me today, and I realized there's > update to which I'd like to give a try: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-15d324f87c > > In Bodhi, the suggested command to test this update is: > >

Re: Introducing vim-default-editor subpackage - replace nano as a default editor if wanted

2020-10-12 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 08:44, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 12.10.2020 14:16, Neal Gompa wrote: > > 2. Having subpackages like this that conflict by name is going to get > > crazy really fast, so we need a virtual name to make RPM only permit > > one of

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-10-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 02:15, Subsentient wrote: > I figure I'll add my two cents for as little as that's worth. > > Personally, I use extlinux with a custom, barebones configuration. On my > EFI systems, I use syslinux EFI. I like the simplicity of syntax for > syslinux's configuration and how

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-08-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 15:58, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Mon, 2020-08-24 at 12:25 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > usb_modeswitch > > any particular reason for usb_modeswitch be orphaned ? , i.e. is about > no maintainer ? or about is not used anymore ? >

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 13:44, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:16:32 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Then that certainly means that Ubuntu uses this too, since they reuse > > the dbgsym subpackage generation for the ddeb system they have now. > > I am not much familiar with

Re: Fedora 32/33 livedisks do not boot on M$ system(s)

2020-09-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 11:54, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > On 9/30/2020 8:17 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:05 AM Marius Schwarz > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> the livecds from F32 and F33 are suffering from a problem not booting on > >> Microsoft device(s) > >> > >>

Re: Switching to DWARF5 default for GCC11 (and the default Fedora 34 toolchain)

2020-09-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:41, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:50:39 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > = What I am NOT working on > [...] > > - Any other tool, project not mentioned above or other > > native toolchains like golang, rust, clang/llvm or ocaml. > > I expect those to

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:44:13AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > After reading https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8967, I really > > don't think that systemd-resolved's benefits outweigh its harms as a > > default

Re: Test machines for maintainers (was: btrfs and default page sizes (4k vs 64k))

2020-09-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 16:14, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > Hi, Kevin. > > On Friday, 18 September 2020 at 19:46, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:08:46AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:07 AM Zbigniew

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