Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-09 Thread Alex Scheel
> 1. I didn't ask for/want a module. > 2. They aren't actually needed. After disabling them and reinstalling the > programs I care about (or could have used distro-sync) they weren't > actually needed. This is where I'll drop a plug for the Stewardship SIG. Thanks in large part to Fabio's great

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > I guess I should say that part of my problem is that: > > 1. I didn't ask for/want a module. This is exactly the problem with default module streams and why we (Miro Hrončok and several other people including me) want to ban them. Modules should not be forced onto users.

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-07 Thread drago01
On Saturday, December 7, 2019, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 18:51 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > > After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than > just > > this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't > > question them being

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 7:26 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 18:51 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > > After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than > just > > this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't > > question them being

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 18:51 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than just > this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't > question them being installed. They are normal. You're not wrong. The problem is well

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
Problem solved... It is possible to resolve the problem without rolling back updates. $ rpm -qa | grep module_ | xargs sudo dnf -y erase $ sudo dnf module disable \* $ sudo install I'm guessing you could skip the first and last and just disable the modules and do a distro-sync? Thanks,

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Charalampos Stratakis wrote: >> From: "Miro Hrončok" >> On 06. 12. 19 18:10, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: >> >> > Or do we need to rollback the update? >> >> Rollback or disable explicitly. > > That is more than unfortunate. IMHO, we should disable all default module streams in F31 immediately

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, even worse than I thought, if I try to remove all the modules it wants to take these packages with it... Removing dependent packages: OpenImageIO-utils x86_64 2.0.11-1.fc31 @updates 2.1 M clementine

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than just this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't question them being installed. I have not intentionally enabled/installed any modules but through regular updates I now have the following installed: $

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 06.12.19 um 23:45 schrieb Charalampos Stratakis: I get there might be some quirks here and there, but having that done on a stable fedora due to eclipse moving into a module so late in the release cycle is just unacceptable. I don't know what a good solution would be here, maybe have

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen Gallagher" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 6:12:32 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for > protobuf > >

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Miro Hrončok" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 6:13:08 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for > protobuf > > On 06. 12. 19 18:10, Charalampos St

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 14:05 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:52 PM Alexander Ploumistos > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Rollback or disable explicitly. > > > > I had been busy testing a bunch of other packages from koji and > >

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 8:06 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:52 PM Alexander Ploumistos > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > Rollback or disable explicitly. > > > > I had been busy testing a bunch of other packages from koji and

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:52 PM Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > Rollback or disable explicitly. > > I had been busy testing a bunch of other packages from koji and > rollback is going to break a lot of things at this point. > Could you

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Rollback or disable explicitly. I had been busy testing a bunch of other packages from koji and rollback is going to break a lot of things at this point. Could you please explain how to install the new protobuf build and get rid of the

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 05:40:23PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 12. 19 17:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". > > > > It has the following in it: > > > > Upgrading: > > protobuf  x86_64  3.6.1-6.module_f31+6793+1c93c38e  updates-modular > > > > However,

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 12. 19 18:10, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:>> For the record, I've just pushed a temporary removal of the eclipse default stream, so the next compose will not have it. For those of you who are affected, your best bet would be to use `yum history rollback` and wait to update again until

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
mainatin...@fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:59:50 PM > > Subject: Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for > > protobuf > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:51 AM Igor Gnatenko > > wrote: > > > > > > T

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen Gallagher" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Mat Booth" , > protobuf-mainatin...@fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:59:50 PM > Subject: Re: Fedo

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:51 AM Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Thanks for CCing me (maintainer of protobuf here), I am particularly > not happy that some module (which is not even called protobuf, but > some random Java #$%! with ripped out python support overrides my > builds). > > I have put a

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 08:58 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 17:40 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 06. 12. 19 17:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". > > > > > > It has the following in it: > > > > > > Upgrading: > > > protobuf x86_64

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 08:58 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 17:40 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 06. 12. 19 17:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". > > > > > > It has the following in it: > > > > > > Upgrading: > > > protobuf x86_64

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 17:40 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 12. 19 17:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". > > > > It has the following in it: > > > > Upgrading: > > protobuf x86_64 3.6.1-6.module_f31+6793+1c93c38e updates-modular > > > > Enabling module

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Thanks for CCing me (maintainer of protobuf here), I am particularly not happy that some module (which is not even called protobuf, but some random Java #$%! with ripped out python support overrides my builds). I have put a proposal into a FESCo ticket. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:44 PM Miro

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Kolman
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 17:36 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". > > It has the following in it: > > Upgrading: > protobuf x86_64 3.6.1-6.module_f31+6793+1c93c38e updates-modular > > Enabling module streams: > ant > eclipse > maven I've noticed this

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 12. 19 17:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: Today I've attempted to run "dnf upgrade". It has the following in it: Upgrading: protobuf  x86_64  3.6.1-6.module_f31+6793+1c93c38e  updates-modular Enabling module streams:  ant  eclipse  maven I don't consider this behavior adequate for a