Re: [freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

Hey guys, this conversation seems to have died. Florent/Dan, are you guys on the same page about how we should proceed? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 5:09 PM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 4

Re: [freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

merge to master results in an automatic roll-out of the improved site. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 10:36 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Sat, 2016-12-17 at 16:11 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > Weren't we going to host on AWS? I don't know, that's why I am asking... Dan?  I think your input is required here. I have suggested either h

Re: [freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

bundler And then periodically upgrading? Ian. On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 5:23 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: So what is the plan for hosting if github pages can't do it? As I wrote before, expecting release managers to maintain a ruby stack (on top of the existing java

Re: [freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2016-12-10 at 13:40 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > > Hey guys, it's been quite a while at this point, and we're still > > stuck with the old website. > > What's the curren

[freenet-dev] Anyone want to improve our Wikipedia page?

: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ten_Simple_Rules_for_Editing_Wikipedia If you do edit the page please be careful to stick to these guidelines. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl

[freenet-dev] Status of web redesign?

received no benefit from it yet). Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Poll results available; Temporary quit as potential employee

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 2:07 AM, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: Ian and Florent have voiced concerns about whether my involvement in the poll could be influenced by the prospect of me benefiting financially by potentially being able to resume my job for Freenet. I don't think this is what I

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

can easily set things up on AWS, which would seem to give us a lot more flexibility, given the difficulties with internationalization and Github Pages. Ian. On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 5:47 PM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Florent,    I understand you're averse to the ruby ecosystem

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

doesn't seem like a responsible use of funds. Clearly I didn't expect it would take 6 months to get through this prioritization process (which still isn't done).  But we have to figure out a better way to decide how to deploy or resources than "pay Xor to work on whatever he wants"

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

.  If there is obvious abuse then we just ignore that feedback.  Why is this so hard?  It seems like you're looking for reasons to declare a democratic process is a failure. Ian, you need to accept the fact that you don't have the time to be the sole person to steer this project. I agree, and I have

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

apable of doing this with the design templates you have, can you maybe ask Ian to request something from the original designer?___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl Ian ClarkeStac

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

be able to get a debit card attached to Freenet's bank account, will call the bank about it on Monday. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

things up? Ian. On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 12:37 PM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: I forgot the main advantage of the solution I'm proposing: AWS will get us a free wildcard certificate for everything we host on their infrastructure (we're currently paying

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

, so I haven't put much more work into the Jekyll version. At present the Jekyll version's English translation is effectively complete, however I do think some content curation will be necessary to better fit the new format. Thanks, Dan On Oct 15, 2016 1:05 PM, "Ian Clark

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

, and could be messy (we'd probably need to use a different subdomain for the Github Pages site). Thoughts?  What other options are there? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

e: > On Mon, 2016-09-05 at 18:48 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > > I agree, provided that this doesn't bog down the process, I would hope > > to have > > the new site up in 2 weeks or less. > > Ian. > > > > That was 8 weeks ago; have we made any progress? > >

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 10:20 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote: > > It's a little hypocritical for you to complain about slow progress in > > a process while you're actively trying to sabota

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

de-prioritize tasks you didn't like (apparently in one case there is a 19200% difference between your estimate for a task and Matthew's). It's a little hypocritical for you to complain about slow progress in a process while you're actively trying to sabotage it. Ian. -- Ian Clarke F

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

le to address the internationalization problem, it does (or at least it did once) have the limitation that the URL needs to begin with "www", but we can set up a redirect if necessary for that. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org _

Re: [freenet-dev] Internationalization on the new site

the experience of a tiny minority that might not. An alternative we could consider is hosting on Google App Engine, but that would add considerable complexity, and might require Dan to redo some of his work on porting the site. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] Democratic process

, because apparently I missed it.  All I saw were you mentioning a variety of alternatives that are not suitable because they do not retain the ordinality of people's estimates. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] Democratic process

, or now whether you're complaining about a problem that was discussed in my original proposal as if it's some kind of  oversight. Either find a way to be constructive, or stay out of it. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] Democratic process

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 2:32 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: Ian Clarke writes: > Since you admit that the alternatives you are proposing aren't better than using > mean, which is the obvious choice, The mean is prone to strategic voting, except for sing

[freenet-dev] Final opportunity for web design feedback

Here are the latest, with recent modification requests implemented: https://redpen.io/p/js600e3ec646ecdf83 Any final requests?  Please only if they're important. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

difficult and/or expensive, and we may end up needing to do it ourselves > anyways. > > Cheers, > Dan > > On Sep 8, 2016 8:24 AM, "Ian Clarke" <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 7:21 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com >

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 4

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 11:06 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 1:42 PM, Florent Daigniere nextgens@freenetprojec > > t.org > > The time for adding tasks was stage #2

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 4

not budgeting for "fixing the installers"? The time for adding tasks was stage #2 of this process, not stage #3.  Why didn't you add this then?  You had weeks to do it. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org __

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

over the next 2 weeks? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

Here is the designers mock-up of the non-landing page template: https://redpen.io/bqa828f66f6b08ec18 Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 1:25 PM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: Based on everyone's feedback, I have selected

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

designers for their aesthetic sense, but with this conversion the community has all of the skills required to both execute this and evaluate this. I agree, provided that this doesn't bog down the process, I would hope to have the new site up in 2 weeks or less. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Pro

Re: [freenet-dev] Winning design selected

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 2:19 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Sun, 2016-09-04 at 18:25 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > After that, I have identified a number of coders who can take these > files, > convert to HTML, and then publish them on Github using https://jekyll

[freenet-dev] Winning design selected

ign: https://redpen.io/pk616b4782ce9e0098 We'll need to get this feedback to the designer quickly so she can incorporate it. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

This just assumes that participants will make bad value decisions when they provide their estimates. Seems unnecessarily pessimistic. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 2:05 PM, Matthew Toseland mj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On 28/08/16

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 1:32 PM, Matthew Toseland mj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On 28/08/16 19:29, Ian wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Toseland <mj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:> That's not what was asked. My prioritization proposal separates the estimation of the value of completi

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

estimate of difficulty. I guess that's the next stage... Nobody is suggesting that we can do everything for $20k. But if we can start by figuring out what the priority ordering is, then we can figure out the best way to allocate the $20k to address as many of the highest priority issues as possible

Re: [freenet-dev] Migrating the wikis and bugtracker: please keep the bugs!

again. I wonder whether the number of open bugs in our bugtracker is increasing, staying the same, or decreasing over time? What is the current process for deciding which issue should be tackled next? Can anyone describe it in a clear way? Somehow I suspect not. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

eting a task from the estimation of the task's cost. These can then be combined later to come up with a prioritization. Ian. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

otes in to this spreadsheet and > > mailing it back: > > https://github.com/xor-freenet/freenet-money-poll/archive/2016-stage3 > > .zip > > > > Here are my votes Was some part of "You may participate by filling your votes in to this spreadsheet" unclear?

[freenet-dev] Final web design winner selection

focus on which designer you think is on the right track. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

[freenet-dev] URGENT: Need to provide advice, suggestions, feedback to finalists

select the winning designer. https://99designs.com/contests/poll/6i5s3o?urlcategory=web-design Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin

Re: [freenet-dev] Design finalist selection

second in the first poll and I don't believe has been in subsequent polls. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:53 AM, Ian Clarke <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote: Another poll, this is to select the finalists. Remember, don't get too hung-up on the specific text, this can be changed

[freenet-dev] Design finalist selection

designers. https://99designs.com/contests/poll/1ndb0s?urlcategory=web-design Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

[freenet-dev] Webdae poll

changed, focus on the design and page structure. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

[freenet-dev] Website poll #2

Hey all, a lot more designs now, I've tried to pick a representative group, please vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/6m2wec?urlcategory=web-design Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list

Re: [freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

You're welcome to relay messages if you like. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM, postmaster <postmas...@nullvoid.me> wrote: > Will there be efforts made to include feedback and transparency for > Freenet users over FMS or Freesites, Sone, Frost, etc? > > Ian Clarke: >

Re: [freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

of the header menu. Download button stands > out well. Other than that, there's not much positive to say about this > design. It's cold, cluttered and uninviting. > Yes, actually somewhat reminiscent of a design we had years ago. Thanks for the feedback. Ian. ___

Re: [freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

opdown is a big plus on the DI design, as is the “sandwich” > layout preventing it from being too dark despite use of the inverted color > graph background. Very nice footer on that one as well. > > > > > On Aug 13, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Ian Clarke <i...@freenetproject.org> wrot

Re: [freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

Ah, didn't realize that - ok. I've created a poll with the three current designs - it's really too early but just to give people a sense of what we're getting so-far: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/o7wc3s?urlcategory=web-design Ian. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 1:10 PM, Dan Roberts ademan

Re: [freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

tahrir in web page design - gold." "How tahrir started their web page design journey" On Sat, Aug 13, 2016, 12:02 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote: Here it is: http://99d.me/c/dvvv Just 4 submissions so-far, I can rate the designs, if anyone di

[freenet-dev] 99designs contest is up

Here it is: http://99d.me/c/dvvv Just 4 submissions so-far, I can rate the designs, if anyone disagrees strongly with a rating or would like to communicate a comment to a designer please make your argument here and I'll try to incorporate people's feedback. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet

Re: [freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

Ok, I have launched the 99designs contest, I will check in on it daily and share here as soon as we have some submissions. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 9:38 AM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: Hey all, I'm working

Re: [freenet-dev] Porting website FAQ to the wiki

ipt. > Pontoon looks cool, will it work in conjunction with Github Pages? Ian. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

esire to never throw anything away, especially when everything is already archived by a 3rd party. Ian. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 9:50 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2016-08-10 at 14:25 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 3:37 AM, Flo

Re: [freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

of an incentive to behave like adults. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Porting website FAQ to the wiki

if the website is inserted into Freenet, however I don't think that's an important requirement because the new website will be primarily aimed at non-Freenet users, the wiki content will be more important to mirror into Freenet. Thoughts? Ian. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 6:26 AM, Bert Massop bert.mas...@gmail.com

Re: [freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

wording. > Oh sorry, were we having a conversation that wasn't all about you? Let's make the conversation about you, shall we? Feel better now? Good. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

Fairly limited feedback, ok - I've incorporated many of the suggestions - will initiate the 99designs project tomorrow. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 11:27 AM, Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org wrote: Dammit, I guess the link got

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

crack if you think that the MediaWiki syntax is > more popular > than Markdown, perhaps 10 years ago, definitely not today. It's not like if there was no history here... I'm really not clear on what point you're trying to make… Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email:

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

it because they're stuck with it, since it would be impractical to migrate at this point. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

If volunteers are unwilling to do it, then we could pick the most important pages and pay someone to migrate them. People competent in that kind of work can be hired quite cheaply. Ian. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetpro

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

> cost of fixing the current site incrementally to be higher than the cost > of redoing what is needed to make everything work with a rewrite? > Yes, the current site is hideous, I am confident that it would be far more work to fix it incrementally than to start again from scratch. Ian.

Re: [freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

Dammit, I guess the link got stripped out, here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMvx21UM1di7rAnCza7xq2HVuHWECaOXA_PLCp1vSiM/edit?usp=sharing On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Ian Clarke <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm working on a design brie

[freenet-dev] Design brief for new website

contest by Thursday, so please offer your feedback ASAP. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Revamp of front page of our website

that the project currently lacks internally, it is a logical use of funds to pay someone with the requisite skillset to redesign it. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https

Re: [freenet-dev] Should we just go ahead and redesign the website?

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > > This is why Ian is talking about "a ground-up redesign". What's > suggested is that it won't be a "migration". Exactly. We need to start fresh with the structure and t

Re: [freenet-dev] Should we just go ahead and redesign the website?

a suitable professional designer volunteers to do it for free (unlikely), we will need to pay an external contributor. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https

Re: [freenet-dev] Should we just go ahead and redesign the website?

ign. Converting a design into html and CSS is not worth paying for in my opinion. I'm happy to volunteer my time for that task, it's also not a rare skill. Thanks, Dan On Aug 6, 2016 9:03 AM, "Ian Clarke" <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote: When I've raised the subject of

Re: [freenet-dev] Should we just go ahead and redesign the website?

Well, I have Florent criticizing me for being too democratic, and Xor criticising me for not being democratic enough, so how about if you guys just debate it directly. Ian. On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 12:56 PM, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: If nobody else does, I'll take the ungrateful duty

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

in your role of chief marketing officer: Why do you > prefer redesigning from the ground up over fixing what is broken on the > acustung site? > Because I think the problems with the existing site are fundamental, and it would be very inefficient to solve them incrementally. Ian. On S

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

ything) or to just > create a better theme and restructure existing content. > Designers don't make that kind of decision, the role you're thinking of is Chief Marketing Officer. We don't have one of those, but fortunately I have a good understanding of marketing. Ian. _

[freenet-dev] Should we just go ahead and redesign the website?

separately to the prioritization process. Thoughts? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Florent Daigniere < nextg...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2016-08-06 at 09:42 -0500, Ian Clarke wrote: > > It is certainly true that I'm preoccupied with other things (namely > > making a living - an unfortunate necessity for

Re: [freenet-dev] About the project

to redesign the website from the ground-up, however I have a strong feeling that would be met by howls of protest by those who (for reasons that make no sense to me) think the website is just fine the way it is. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Em

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

rocess then we can address it at that time, but coming up with some kind of hard criteria for who can and cannot participate in the absence of any evidence of bad behavior would be complex and divisive. At this point it would be a lot of trouble to fix a non-problem. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, Th

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

off once, so > I expected that you’d ignore them again, but restarting the discussion > would still have dragged out the process. Once again you refuse to clarify what specific constructive feedback you're referring to, most likely because no such constructive fe

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> wrote: > > Ian writes: > > Please be more specific. You've said a lot of things, most of which I > > found unpersuasive or just plain obstructionist. > > This is roughly how you reacted to wh

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

I'm open to efforts to clean up the list, if we're going to do it, now is the time. Any specific ideas how to do that? -- sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and typos On Aug 4, 2016 10:37, "Florent Daigniere" wrote: > On Wed, 2016-08-03 at 18:53 +0200, Bert

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

ussion, is that what you're referring to? Please be more specific. You've said a lot of things, most of which I found unpersuasive or just plain obstructionist. Ian. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> wrote: > > @Ian: can you make a clear statement that this will not be used as > justification that we “must” take a given decision? We are not robots, and we do not need to robotically obey the results of this

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> wrote: > > Ian Clarke writes: > > > One example that sticks out is this justification for saying a website > redesign > > would have absolutely zero value: "We have just redesigned it. Thro

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

on then I don't think discussion around those reasons does any harm. Ian. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

-list after all... and "I want a poney" isn't something we can deliver on. It's clear to me that the rules should have been defined in advance, not made along as we go... Ian, can we get the rules clarified here? Who gets to vote? In determining value, I think probabl

Re: [freenet-dev] Financial allocation poll stage 3

e black is similarly questionable. There is a good reason that other related projects like Tor and I2P have gone with a light and open design. Ian. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 9:42 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2016-08-03 at 00:58 +0200, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: H

Re: [freenet-dev] Banner must be removed from website NOW

test message that I am replying to. It was only removed because I complained about it. How long would it have been left there if I hadn't? This is the carelessness I have referred to. I don't enjoy being the “bad cop”, but if people make mistakes then I'm going to point out those mistakes. Ian

Re: [freenet-dev] Banner must be removed from website NOW

an aesthetically pleasing and well structured website for the project? It just strikes me as extreme carelessness. Hopefully we can use part of the $25k donation to pay for a professional website redesign, it will be well worth the investment. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i

[freenet-dev] Banner must be removed from website NOW

law because we are a 501c3 non-profit, which are restricted in the political and lobbying activities they can participate in while claiming 501c3 status. Can someone remove this immediately? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] Onioncat: Freenet over Onion Routing

with a lot of people running Freenet over Tor. I don't mean to be discouraging, this is an interesting experiment and worth trying. Ian. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 5:56 AM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Chris Double <chris.dou...@double.co.nz>

[freenet-dev] Planning process Step #3

Many people have now contributed to the list of tasks, thank you all for your contributions. If you have not yet contributed, please do-so in the next day or two, after which I will curate the tasks and transfer them into a suitable form for the next step, which will be effort estimation. Ian

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

n't. > In that case you will be pleased to learn that Google Docs does not require that you sign in to a Google account unless you require this when you create the "share" link, which I did not. (Did I deliver that disagreement too harshly?). Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet P

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

shouldn't use Google Docs? If so, what are your reasons? Can we not have a debate based on facts and arrive at a logical conclusion at the end of that debate? That's how things used to work, and it worked pretty well. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

is workflow could be cut at any time. > In the extremely unlikely event that Google suddenly shuts down Google Docs, then it will not be difficult to switch to another solution. These are all very weak arguments. > Personal reason: > > When I told Ian about my reservations against using G

Re: [freenet-dev] next step? was: Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

On Wed, May 18, 2016 2:35 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: Since the discussion seems to have ended, how about going to the next step? Good point - sorry, I've been distracted by my day-job. @Ian: Would you describe the next step? I've created a document here on which

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal to make unit-tests in Freenet easier to implement

this kind of software architecture mistake, and many other mistakes, I highly recommend the book “Clean Code” by Robert C. Martin. It's full of great ideas and best practices for architecting code (not Java-specific, but most of the examples are Java). Ian. On Sat, May 7, 2016 5:10 AM, Martin

Re: [freenet-dev] Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

”, do you have specific ideas there? Ian. Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

On Fri, May 6, 2016 4:03 AM, hyazin...@emailn.de wrote: + Design - Make Freenet more beautiful, and make Freenet feel and work better Thank you for the suggestion, but isn't that very similar to “user friendliness”? -- Ian Clarke Stacks - The AI CFO for your personal finances http

Re: [freenet-dev] Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

You're jumping the gun, first I'm just trying to agree on the high level categories. These items will be useful in stage #2 -- sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and typos On May 5, 2016 21:04, wrote: > Thanks! > I'll start with my proposals. I'll put ideas

[freenet-dev] Planning process step #1: Broad resource areas

Freenet more secure against attack * Technical debt - Stuff that will make future development faster * Outreach - Stuff that will help attract users, developers, and donors to Freenet (eg. the website) Am I missing anything? Let's try to keep things at a similar high-level. Ian. Ian Clarke Founder

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

mailman/listinfo/devl Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenetproject.org ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Wed, May 4, 2016 1:45 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: Ian Clarke writes:> Well, one important component of the allocation process is to start with an even > allocation of points between all tasks, Did I overlook that in the description? Yes you did, from my pr

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