On Friday 15 May 2009 17:05:09 Robert Hailey wrote:
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> On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
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> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
> >>
> >> On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >>
> >>> Once connected to my node, it repeatedly RNFed on
On Friday 15 May 2009 17:05:09 Robert Hailey wrote:
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> On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
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> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
> >>
> >> On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >>
> >>> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not
On Friday 15 May 2009 17:05:09 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
On Friday 15 May 2009 17:05:09 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
Once connected to my node, it repeatedly RNFed on the top block of
On Monday 18 May 2009 14:50:30 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Arne Babenhauserheide schrieb:
> > On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
> >> choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad
On Monday 18 May 2009 18:03:50 Cl?ment wrote:
> Le samedi 16 mai 2009 20:10:00, Matthew Toseland a ?crit :
> > On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > > Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > > > On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > > >> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > >
On Monday 18 May 2009 14:50:30 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Arne Babenhauserheide schrieb:
On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea
for
On Monday 18 May 2009 18:03:50 Clément wrote:
Le samedi 16 mai 2009 20:10:00, Matthew Toseland a écrit :
On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14
On Monday, 18. May 2009 15:50:30 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Do you know the numbers of possible browsers? You dont want to add a
> useflag for each of them and additionally this would force the user to use
> exactly the one browser selected by useflag. Additionally, what happens,
> when the selected
On Monday, 18. May 2009 15:50:30 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Do you know the numbers of possible browsers? You dont want to add a
useflag for each of them and additionally this would force the user to use
exactly the one browser selected by useflag. Additionally, what happens,
when the selected
Le samedi 16 mai 2009 20:10:00, Matthew Toseland a ?crit :
> On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > > On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > >> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Arne Babenhauserheide schrieb:
> On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
>> choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for
>> this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a
On Sunday, 17. May 2009 00:59:13 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Not much point hiding it if you're broadcasting the existence of nodes via
> MDNSDiscovery!
...you're right for OpenNet... should have seen that before.
I assume only a full "steganographic announcement" framework could help there
On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
> choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for
> this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a script for linux.
But in Gentoo it
On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for
this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a script for linux.
But in Gentoo it would
On Sunday, 17. May 2009 00:59:13 Matthew Toseland wrote:
Not much point hiding it if you're broadcasting the existence of nodes via
MDNSDiscovery!
...you're right for OpenNet... should have seen that before.
I assume only a full steganographic announcement framework could help there
(have
Arne Babenhauserheide schrieb:
On Saturday, 16. May 2009 16:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can
choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for
this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a script for
Le samedi 16 mai 2009 20:10:00, Matthew Toseland a écrit :
On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew
Matthew Toseland skrev:
> Well, we already have a Browse Freenet script on all three platforms.
> Currently it detects browsers that we know about. You don't have to use it if
> you don't want to. But we should extend it to use incognito mode if possible,
> and to favour browsers with such
On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote:
> Wouldn't it take much load off the "internet", i.e. small bandwidth
> connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for
> routing requests if possible?
I assume that it would also help privacy, because then timing analysis and
On Saturday 16 May 2009 23:20:08 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote:
> > Wouldn't it take much load off the "internet", i.e. small bandwidth
> > connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for
> > routing requests if possible?
>
> I
Matthew Toseland skrev:
Well, we already have a Browse Freenet script on all three platforms.
Currently it detects browsers that we know about. You don't have to use it if
you don't want to. But we should extend it to use incognito mode if possible,
and to favour browsers with such
On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > My observation: Can we get
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
>>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
> choice?
> And
* xor [2009-05-15 22:07:34]:
> On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
> > On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> > > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > >> xor schrieb:
> > >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > Matthew Toseland
* Robert Hailey [2009-05-15 13:04:58]:
>
> On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
>
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> xor schrieb:
> >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > My observation: Can we get rid of
* xor [2009-05-15 18:24:53]:
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > > My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
> > > choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
> >
> > You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
>
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> >>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
> >>> choice?
> >>> And maybe the welcome page?
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to
* xor x...@gmx.li [2009-05-15 18:24:53]:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
* Robert Hailey rob...@freenetproject.org [2009-05-15 13:04:58]:
On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid
* xor x...@gmx.li [2009-05-15 22:07:34]:
On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice?
And maybe the welcome page?
On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will
On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote:
Wouldn't it take much load off the internet, i.e. small bandwidth
connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for
routing requests if possible?
I assume that it would also help privacy, because then timing analysis and
similar
On Saturday 16 May 2009 23:20:08 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote:
Wouldn't it take much load off the internet, i.e. small bandwidth
connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for
routing requests if possible?
I assume that
On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
> On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> xor schrieb:
> >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > My observation: Can we get
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> xor schrieb:
> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> >>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
> >>> choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
> >>
> >> You
xor schrieb:
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
>>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
>>> choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
>> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
>>
>>> Because we were both on
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
> > choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
>
> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
>
> > Because we were both on the same LAN,
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
>>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
>>> choice?
>>> And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
>> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
>
> Why
On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> xor schrieb:
>>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it
> manually"
> choice?
On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
>>
>> On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>
>>> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
>>> told him to
>>> set it to allow local addresses on
On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>
> > Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
> > told him to
> > set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There should be a
> > checkbox when
> >
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually"
choice?
> > And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
>
> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Why would that be bad?
>
> > Because we
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Why would that be bad?
On May 14, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
told him to
set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Because we were both on the same LAN, it
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to
On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it
manually
choice? And maybe the welcome
On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
xor schrieb:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually" choice?
> And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I told him to
> set it to allow local
Another usability test, with somebody who has used Freenet before once or
twice but remains essentially a newbie.
My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it manually" choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
The browser warning: User installed Chrome, and copied the URL
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
> told him to
> set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There should be a
> checkbox when
> adding a noderef, defaulting to on, "Friend may be on the same local
>
Another usability test, with somebody who has used Freenet before once or
twice but remains essentially a newbie.
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
The browser warning: User installed Chrome, and copied the URL across
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I told him to
set it to allow local
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
told him to
set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There should be a
checkbox when
adding a noderef, defaulting to on, Friend may be on the same local
network
as
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matthew Toseland schrieb:
My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually
choice?
And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
Why would that be bad?
Because we were both on
On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:36:31 Robert Hailey wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until I
told him to
set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There should be a
checkbox when
adding a
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