Ford, HenryHR Giger
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk
aherasimc...@involutionstudios.com wrote:
On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:09 PM, dave malouf wrote:
But in general, your list is my list.
If you're going to use software technology examples, considering we are
still in
That metatools guy that did kai's power goo. Those interfaces were amazing
on mac os 7.5.3
3D has come along way since ray dream designer and specualr indiniD. I think
3DS max has the 'best' ux going on these days even though it is PC only.
I agree, the clone wars were minimal when bryce and
Angel,
After Andrei's post I thought of Kai's Power Tools as well. Kai Krause was
the guy's name. Along with Phil Clemenger a little later on.
Steve
2009/2/18 Angel Marquez angel.marq...@gmail.com
That metatools guy that did kai's power goo. Those interfaces were amazing
on mac os 7.5.3
Correction: Phil Clevenger was the other guy's name.
2009/2/18 Steve Baty steveb...@gmail.com
Angel,
After Andrei's post I thought of Kai's Power Tools as well. Kai Krause was
the guy's name. Along with Phil Clemenger a little later on.
Steve
2009/2/18 Angel Marquez
Hey Steve,
Yea, I just looked him up. I have pleasant memories of the people the time
and how that was all introduced to me. I started my professional career
path' on mac 7.5.3, illustrator 7 photoshop 4.
It has been interesting to see how things have synthesized over the years.
On Wed, Feb 18,
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Thanks for your reply Dave!
I'm not really sure what to assume about my background. I have
looked at some programs and the relevance of my degree seems to span
from I'm already there and I don't know anything, and in
between I haven't found much. For me the obvious choice is to seek
out the
Thanks everyone for their input. Really helpful!
I'm a little unconvinced but the statement In general, if you're
being attached by spam, using a captcha is a good idea It's not
that clear cut - captchas have costs and benefits. It makes sense to
at least start by trying the approaches that
Thanks everyone for their input. Really helpful!
I'm a little unconvinced but the statement In general, if you're
being attached by spam, using a captcha is a good idea
captchas have costs and benefits. It's not that clear cut. It makes
sense to at least start by trying the approaches that
It would be nicer to add a list of vocabulary as non-ux but related items?
And better, put them into different boxes, :)
Regards,
Jarod
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Dan Saffer d...@odannyboy.com wrote:
At I09, there were a lot of calls for a vocabulary we can all understand,
no matter
Do we already need a 'hall of fame'?
Do we really need a 'hall of fame'?
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Welcome to the
On 17 Feb 2009, at 09:01, Mark B. wrote:
A response from Luis von Ahn of reCAPTCHA:
Some of our big customers have done A/B tests that show that using
reCAPTCHA does not change conversion rates for them. In general, if
[snip]
Of course folk visiting big customers may be willing to expend
Julie - Might be worth checking the find and replace tool, you can
actually find a specific typeface and size and replace it with a
different typeface, style and size.
It's still not perfect but it does the job!
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Erik,
One option is to do a Masters in Human-Computer Interaction, which has
slightly more emphasis in psychology, with a sprinkling of design,
anthropology, systems thinking, etc.
I'm currently enrolled as a Masters student at University College
London for their Human-Computer Interaction with
Hi all,
Currently our UX team are PC-based and use Visio. I would like to move
back to Mac and start using Omnigraffle again.
I have been asked to write a business case for switching. Does anyone
have an suggestions or experience of writing such a case?
Thanks,
Nik
If you all can stand a bit of sw dev talk, here is an excerpt from
Embedded Muse, a newsletter for embedded programming. The topic CS
education and embedded software:
It's certainly true that universities could do more to teach good
software design and process (or even good coding practices for
As an aside, it would be interesting to have Mac devotees list the negative
aspects of the Mac or a person who uses both the PC and Mac highlight the
differences. I use both a Mac and PC, everyday, and find the single menu on
the Mac antiquated (it fits the philosopy of the original Mac and has
Somewhere, somehow, you have to highlight the efficiencies of
Omnigraffle over Visio, and show that it costs the company money. If
you're working for a consultancy, that's going to make it even
harder because usually they bill that back to the client.
I recently worked for a company that was
Nik,
A couple thoughts:
How much do you have to share files with other members of your team? Do your
developers read the Visio files or can they work from PDFs?
If collaboration is important, the latest version of Graffle does open Visio
files nicely.
For the documentation consulting side of
Good evening everyone!
I've been asked to write a letter of recommendation on topapply.com
Usually, they have very lenghty forms, as you might imagine.
Mine had 5-6 textboxes, as well as other elements.
I hit Save for Later and the form resets.Only the first textbox remained
filled.
I hit Back,
I don't think anybody knows who any of the below mentioned men are,
East of the Sacramento River.
Physical architecture has been around and celebrated as a celebrity-
worship-worthy vocation, for thousands of years. *Everybody* in a
given region also sees buildings, whereas not everybody
I am using emailmeform.com to create my forms and so far I am
satisfied with it.
They are mostly for online forms ( forms will send emails when filled
up and submitted ) but it can also be used for offline forms
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I can't resist.
Hub and Spoke hasn't been mentioned...
That will get a whole room going in circles.
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I've been testing a few different prototyping tools including
Fireworks CS4. There are a couple of online tutorials at Adobe - the
one I remember was with David Hogue from Fluid (dude, where's my hop
up!?).
It seems like the real power comes with the ability to simulate rich
interactions.
If you take the view that the simplest form of interaction is reading the
written word..(tenuous?) then I'd submit Nevil Brody
Personal hero of mine;)
John Morse
Information Architect
Professional Services Group
UPA,Prince 2, ISEB IT Architect, AIIM, MBCS
Eduserv
innovative technology
Hi Nik,
I am a huge Mac fan and Mac laptops are a great machines to use -
especially for guerrilla testing using Silverback, giving
presentations using Keynote and general day to day work.
However, I feel that Visio is a far more powerful tool for producing
UX deliverables. I love Omnigraffle,
Hi Seamus,
I was in the Bill Caemmerer talk last Monday. I was just wondering,
are the slideshows somewhere online?
Other people from my company couldn't go and they asked me.
Thanks,
Cristina
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Dan,
Thanks for your reply. The creative team all use macs hooked up to the
network so incorporating it into our infrastructure isn't a problem.
Only the UX team will use the Visio/Omnigraffle files, so whilst
compatibility is important it's only really us opening previous
revisions of
You may not think of Linus Torvalds as an interaction designer, but he
is sort of a rock star in the software and open source community.
And if you think of Linux as a product for scientists, engineers, sys
admins, and programmers, he really has made it user friendly by
sticking to interfaces
I would say it's most important to not think about people based on
whether their profession was IxD or not - given that the term and
title have only been around for less than a decade, yet people have
been 'doing' just that for a bit longer. Leonardo Di Vinci was
certainly not an
I love these exercises. They are the IxD equivalent of fantasy dinner
parties. To the excellent lists below, I would add:
Peter Checkland, who developed and promoted Soft System Methodology
Bruce Mau, for his Massive Change project
John Ive, because his products delight and mesmerize me even
I actually like that idea.. rather than an aggregator, which doesn't
help you filter, we could have a Design is Kinky or K10K type site
for UX/IxD. A curated aggregator as it were... or is there already a
site like this that i'm forgetting?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:36 PM, J. Ambrose Little
On 18 Feb 2009, at 00:50, Eirik Midttun wrote:
[snip]
Catch-up classes isn't a problem for me, but I don't see that
presented as an option.
[snip]
Could well be worth asking even if there's nothing obvious presented.
In the dim and distant past when I was in academia folk were more than
Harry,
I'll throw in my yea vote. I haven't seen anything like this.
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Welcome to the
On Feb 18, 2009, at 2:25 AM, Nik Lazell wrote:
Currently our UX team are PC-based and use Visio. I would like to move
back to Mac and start using Omnigraffle again.
There is no reason to switch to a Mac if your only goal is to use
Omnigraffle. That's like asking your spouse that you'
I'd throw in a YES too and strongly dispute the waste of time proposition.
Planet sites serve a variety of purposes for different audiences. Two of
my favorites are:http://planet.socialmediaresearch.org/
http://planet.mozilla.org
I would encourage folks submitting RSS to use a targeted category
Hi Jennifer,
Thanks very much that kind of structure is fantastically helpful!
-Nik
From: jennifer.r.vign...@jpmorgan.com
[mailto:jennifer.r.vign...@jpmorgan.com]
Sent: 18 February 2009 15:08
To: Nik Lazell
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] A business case for switching Mac
Hi Nik:
On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:39 AM, Ferran Alvarez wrote:
Do we already need a 'hall of fame'?
Do we really need a 'hall of fame'?
Yes and yes.
We should recognize and understand the history of our field and
celebrate those who created the interaction design paradigms like cut
and paste that
First of all I have no love for Microsoft. I once relied heavily on
Visio but I find Graffle satisfies 95% of what I need to do. I also
have an understanding that MS is the necessary bitter pill that comes
with this business. So putting that aside...
When we started up our business a couple of
On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
If you're going to use software technology examples, considering we
are still in early stages of that tech, we should acknowledge that
most of the great interaction designers up until now haven't been
designers at all. They've been
Hi Anthony,
Does Marketing think that a potential customer in Zip Code X doesn't know
anyone in Zip Code Y? Sounds to me as though they are dead-set on preventing
prospects from recommending products to one another.
Of course they aren't, but that is one potentially significant effect of the
This is an interesting exercise. I think that moving forward we should
actually look at those people who have either moved their conscious
understanding of what they do to interaction design, or who currently
understand what they do as interaction design.
Why do I say this. I might have invented
Folk,
Recently, a group of leaders from various US design organizations
came together to discuss the question of a US National design policy.
This summit meeting resulted in 10 design policy recommendations,
which can be found here:
http://www.designpolicy.org/usdp/policy-proposals.html
(The
BTW- I haven't seen Joy Mountford or any other women mentioned... and
I know there were a couple of other ladies in the 'ol-skool PARC and
Apple UI teams.
We've got lots of men and Americans, women? Intl?
n
On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Dan Saffer wrote:
On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:39 AM,
The reason I voted waste of time is not hap-hazzard. It is based
in my experience. I got way too much redundancy between my own feed
agregation and by having feed aggregators out there. I get this still
here and there, but often now I use the redundancy as a sorta ad hoc
digg effect. But with
I'm looking for examples of applications that support the task of
comparing images, specifically multiple perspectives of the same
object.
For example simultaneously comparing before and after photos, or
looking at an object from different angles at the same time. I am
particularly interested
On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:05 AM, Nina Eleanor Alter wrote:
BTW- I haven't seen Joy Mountford or any other women mentioned...
and I know there were a couple of other ladies in the 'ol-skool PARC
and Apple UI teams.
We've got lots of men and Americans, women? Intl?
When I made my list, this
Hi all,
I am a UI designer for a start up company and I'm conducting a
usability test for our web product for the first time.
I've read a few books including handbook of usability testing
and a practical guide to usability testing, and I've read a ton
of resources online.
The product we are
Two years ago, I was in a similar position as Eirik. I started my
career in web development than transitioned to consumer electronic
GUIs. I never had any formal design degree other than learning
through books and applying it as I go. However, one thing I realized
is that I didn't possess the
Hi Chris,
I think it's pretty common to use the Wizard pattern
(HTMLhttp://quince.infragistics.com/Patterns/Wizard.html
/Quince http://quince.infragistics.com/#/Main/ViewPattern$pattern=Wizard)
for these. TurboTax is a long-standing example in that space from what I've
seen, though doubtless
Hello,
I work on similar usability labs and my task lists always start with
some exploratory tasks. Even if they may do some of the widget
related tasks during that period, I would still ask the specific tasks
associated with the goals of the widget.
Hope that helps and good luck!
Kaden
On Wed,
Rob,
You might want to take a look at Adobe Lightroom 2.0, it has
functionality similar to what you describe.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:20:15, Rob Tannen rtan...@bresslergroup.com wrote:
I'm looking for examples of applications that support the task of
comparing images, specifically multiple
or Muriel Cooper.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Nina Eleanor Alter
ninav...@bigwheel.netwrote:
BTW- I haven't seen Joy Mountford or any other women mentioned... and I
know there were a couple of other ladies in the 'ol-skool PARC and Apple UI
teams.
We've got lots of men and Americans,
On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:58 AM, dave malouf wrote:
... many of the engineers that were
mentioned, I doubt they do and I would suggest that we do need to
understand the difference between engineering interactive systems and
designing interactions.
I recently read Mitch Kapor's Software Design
I'm in the 'absolutely not' column. The proposal is too airy-fairy
impractical with overtly political items ('carbon neutral', for
example) thrown in.
The United States is dealing with huge problems that would not have
been helped by 'design thinking'. And the last thing we need is
more levels
Josh,
I think this is a matter of not whether but how and to what extent.
I had been thinking about something like this for Obama's Citizen's
Briefing Book, but that is over and this is better anyway.
I'm curious about which items on the list were disagreed with. The
problem I see with the
On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Christopher Fahey wrote:
Twenty-five years ago, the ideas of interaction design and
software engineering had not yet become distinct -- much in the
same way that, say, in the year 1660 physics, chemistry, alchemy,
religion, and philosophy had not yet separated
KEEP GOVERNMENTS OUT OF OUR CREATIVE SPACE!!!
I'm a definate NO
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This effort frustrates me. I really appreciate and applaud the effort that
went into it. But items 2 and 3, while admirable, really have no business
being on this list. They are not only political agendas but are highly
charged and likely to sink the entire effort. These two items need, and are
I would urge you to not focus so much on the 'time' element unless
they take excessive time to notice or do things. You're more
interested in their interpretation and actions based on the
'think-aloud' method, and you need to focus on this more than time
along IMO.
Allowing users time to explore
Our creative team likewise live in a Mac world, in a company dominated by
PCs. The IAs have VMware to switch back forth and use Visio. Comparing
VMware to Parallels, one of our top IAs reports preferring Parallels because
it feels more like you're running a Windows app in an OS X environment, so
I have said this before - on their blog site, in conversations with
DaveM, other places.
I think they are misguided bordering on clueless. It's one thing to
bring together a cabal of policy wonks, academics, and bureaucrats to
create a national design policy; it's another act of hubris to
Hi Pendar,
I've read a few books including handbook of usability testing
and a practical guide to usability testing, and I've read a ton
of resources online.
I am so psyched that you've read Handbook of Usability Testing. I hope
it was the second edition. I was one of the authors. (Oh
You've got the right approach. After the open ended part of the session,
you'll know whether the widget stands out enough to be noticed on it's own
merit.
Then stop and ask whether the test participant ever does 'x' where x is the
thing that the new widget does. 'x' is not the widget name,
And for those that couldn't make it live, here's the archived
presentation:
http://experts.na3.acrobat.com/p13197444/
It definitely is a bit rambling and almost entirely lacking in bullet
points, like a proper Tufte acolyte :) but I'd definitely love any
questions or feedback, since the audience
I particularly like 8, 9, 10 but I feel that overall, the list is a bit
lofty. Even if we gave the rubber stamp they want, what would that mean in a
practical sense for IxDA members? Probably not much. Also, how would we
reconcile such ties to the US government when we're supposed to be an
On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Christopher Fahey wrote:
The difference you describe exists today, but it didn't exist ten or
twenty years ago. We can hardly blame folks in the 1980's and
earlier for blurring engineering and user experience design, as they
were doing both. Thomas Edison
I agree with you Chris and Dan, whole-heartily.
I was trying to bring structure and purpose to the exercise, b/c it
seemed to me that almost anyone from Dyson to Ford who thought about
any aspect of human needs and motivations in their designs (of
success) could be put in this category of IxD
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:16:03, Eirik Midttun emidt...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll just introduce my own background so you know where I stand: I
have a Master's Degree in Networks and Telecommunications which
mixes CS and EE. I started my career in embedded development, and I
now do GUI design and
Again - I think the importance here is 'intentionality' - Galileo
could not possibly think of himself or his work as interaction design
but if I ripped open my time machine and presented Englebart with IxD
as I understand it, he would jump on board, until he jumped off it
again because his
A few thoughts:
1) The total list is a draft and they are looking for feeback. Its a
sketch being evaluated. I have problems w/ the after party invite as
opposed to getting invited to the awards ceremony itself, but I can
move on from that.
2) Government in any professional space.
Whether a
Lot's of wonderful discussion!
To the IxDA's mission points of Evangelism and Education, should we
work to create a Hall of Fame site touting the accomplishments of
innovators in computer interaction design?
We can learn from our history, and demonstrating the progressive
advancement of the
On Feb 18, 2009, at 11:02 AM, mike myles wrote:
To the IxDA's mission points of Evangelism and Education, should we
work to create a Hall of Fame site touting the accomplishments of
innovators in computer interaction design?
Two things:
1. Hall of Fame is an awful way to think of it. The
Something I keep thinking about seeing all of these individual names
is that as opposed to e.g., paintings that are easier to think of as
being created by one person, so much of the work done by the names on
these lists were really team/group efforts.
Aren't we continuing to sell one of the the
I agree with Philip for the most part, though I share Mark's split between
frustration and appreciation.
Although it's understandably a weird feeling to have government involvement
in what has purely been a creative space, I also feel there's a lot of
opportunity to do good here - There are a ton
Thank you krush and pgreasby for the wonderful feedback. As a
usability testing virgin I do appreciate the tips.
Dana, it is a wonderful surprise to read your reply. Indeed I read
the second edition and found the book very insightful, using some of
its templates in conjunction with other to
While in pursuit of the simple, the
clear, the intuitive, the new, I'd like to give whimsy, surprise, and um, the
warm embrace of stupidity, their due.
No matter the domain, – virtual or tangible, high tech or high touch,
interfaces or environments, – innovative thinking is accompanied by the
I'm looking for a good tool to manage a multi-branch moderator's
guide for a usability study. There are a number of shared tasks but
some ordering variation, and I'm trying to avoid updating the same
task/probe multiple times. Any suggestions?
-Scott
On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:50 AM, dave malouf wrote:
1) The total list is a draft and they are looking for feeback. Its a
sketch being evaluated. I have problems w/ the after party invite as
opposed to getting invited to the awards ceremony itself, but I can
move on from that.
After party
Hi folks,
I'm enjoying this thread very much, albeit dismayed at the lack of
cited women too. (Anybody see Maren Costa's work at Amazon at DUX
2005?)
Anyways, I wanted to let folks know that the IxDA Board is playing
around with the idea of creating an IxD timeline that would allow
IxDA members
Liz,
The timeline concept sounds like a great one.
It strikes me that people (teams individuals), projects, products
and publications all work in concert to show the evolution of
interaction design. A timeline could be an effective way to tie all
those items together and enhance understanding
Like Angel, I like 8, 9, and 10, and though I understand frustrations
others have expressed, I agree with Dave and Andrei about the overall
initiative. I therefore support engagement, focused on asserting our
collective informed opinion, and attempting to moderate misguided or
overly ambitious
How many participants in the study?
I just go the old fashion way. I print out 1 copy per participant and
then reorganize the pages to control for presentation bias.
I dislike taking notes on a laptop when I do a utest... feels too
clinical.
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VMWare also doesn't slow down your OSX install the way Parallels does
due to how the virtual machine is implemented. I regularly develop for
linux and OSX, running linux under a VMWare partition with no hassles.
When needed, I also run a xp pro instance under VMWare, and it's also
quite
Certainly, it isn't perfect. However, I view it as a foot in the door.
This is the only venture in this direction I know of that seems to
have legs. I think it is worth getting behind, even if we don't agree
with everything on it.
Furthermore, let's pretend that it does have legs and
The IxDA should absolutely participate in and support the US National
Design Policy.
The current draft proposal is attempting to shine a light on the
importance of Design and design in every day life. Why would IxDA not
want to help shape a national design policy? If the group decides
against
From Jack Moffett
snip
Another point of reference is the work of
Richard Buchanan and Tony Golsby-Smith
with the Australian Tax Office, which
started by looking at a redesign of
the tax forms but ended up redesigning
the entire tax system.
Jack, could you give me some references to
Parallels is great for running the Mac OS and a Windows OS simultaneously.
Example, when chaining audio applications you can have a PC only app open
and chained to a Mac app, with dual monitors this is great. Can this be done
with VMWare? I was dual booting with Fedora on my mac but those fine
That is like me saying their should be more mexican people on the list. I
wouldn't say that.
Which brings me this mental model book I am reading where the author is a
woman. All of her second person references are 'she'. After reading enough
to draw a conclusion I'm not sure me and 'her' are
Thanks all for your comments on this, it's been a busy few days and
the IxDA list does not like my webmail app, so haven't been able to
respond.
Does anyone know of actual hard data as to how much dropoff extra
steps/questions cause within a purchasing flow? Although this is not
a
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I am no fan of big government, but let's face it that some very large
initiatives simply need some regulatory heft behind them. Perhaps
this is one and I believe it should be explored.
The comments about keeping government out of creative efforts seem
odd. Are we better or worse off for
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On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Caroline Jarrett wrote:
Jack, could you give me some references to this work? Due to my
fascination
with forms in general and tax forms in particular, I'd love to find
out more
about this claim, which I'd not heard about previously despite a few
contacts here
Thanks for all the input folks. Let me put a finer point on what
participation means.
Participation means that YOU feel motivated to work on one of these
10 initiatives. Do you? If so, how? Would you put a group of IxDA
members together to drive one of these initiatives forward? if not,
what
The qualification algorithm is much more granular.My cromagnum
understanding of algorithms is that they are as granular as they need to be.
Nothing more nothing less. Did you ask someone and assume that this is the
case or you are grabbing the reins and are certain this is true?
If it doesn't
I like to ask as few questions as possible when someone is interacting
to keep them from artificially paying attention and thinking about
things-- doing is more revealing than talking.
Ron
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 18, 2009, at 11:43 AM, pendar legof...@legofish.com wrote:
Thank you Ron,
Hi chris,
A side question:
maybe the first is to think about reducing the length?
Jarod
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:45:13, Chris McLay ch...@eeoh.com.au wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for examples of very long forms, or forms for gathering
lots of data. Forms that have multiple questions (20+) for
Thanks Angel...
When this project explodes seconds after takeoff I will be sure to
have some more evasive technical jargon at the ready.
On 18-Feb-09, at 3:56 PM, Angel Marquez wrote:
The qualification algorithm is much more granular.
My cromagnum understanding of algorithms is that they
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