I am not a techie. Have no Linux knowledge at all. Dont have time to
tinker, but figured Id at least give a raspberry pi a shot while I own
a workable SB Touch.
After getting over the initial fear I bought a kit with a case, and
located the instructions on this site for how to load
I do. I bought a Marantz AVR three years ago in large part because of
integrated HEOS. I have HEOS wireless speakers in several rooms in
addition to my stereo equipment.
Multi room sync works well, and the sound is very good. I still have my
raspberry pi running squeezelite and connected to a
Is noise an issue with any of these solutions? I also use Mac mini (ten
heads old now) as my music server, with a Pi as my streaming device.
Its. Quiet operation, which is necessary since its in the same room as
my main stereo.
Im looking to upgrade, since Im starting to have performance
mherger wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply. Would it better on a nuc or Mac Mini?
> Would
>
> If you are familiar with Linux then I'd go with it. There are important
> cahnges to macOS ahead, and Apple has deprecated the scripting
> languages.
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> Michael
This scares me. Im an
It's good to know Roon is out there should LMS no longer have community
support, but $499 is steep. Particularly if it closes up shop like SB
did (as a commercial venture, at least).
I've been very happy with my 2 Pi's. I'm not technically gifted, and I
had little problem setting mine up.
dbpoweramp for me, too.
It's been awhile since I've done this, but I think you can rip a CD to
both FLAC and mp3 at the same time if you know you want a lossy version.
2-SB3s, 1-Touch, and a Raspberry Pi B+ with TekDevice dacBerry 3+
running piCorePlayer. Mac Mini as a server (OS X
Sync is so important to me that I've dismissed all the other commercial
alternatives. I would answer 'yes' to all your questions, although
cross-fade is more important to me than fade in/out.
2-SB3s, 1-Touch, and a Raspberry Pi B+ with TekDevice dacBerry 3+
running piCorePlayer. Mac Mini as
How well does Spotify/Smart Mix work in a multi-player synced setup,
particularly with a mix of SBs and Pi's?
2-SB3s, 1-Touch, and a Raspberry Pi B+ with TekDevice dacBerry 3+
running piCorePlayer. Mac Mini as a server (OS X Yosemite). Direct
Ethernet connection (1-SB3 and the Raspberry Pi)
Not being a techie, I was a bit apprehensive putting together my first
Pi. It really did turn out to be about as easy to set up as folks here
said. It didn't work right out of the box, but it didn't take too much
work to figure things out and get it running.
I ordered parts for my second. I'd
philippe_44 wrote:
Yes, I was thinking about the casing being capable of hosting a dac+ or
digi+ board optionally and basically you choose what you want to build.
There is a limit to the number of boards :-), but hopefully one for the
display, the pi itself and an optional dac+/digi+ could
jimzak wrote:
I synced the avy with the boom sitting next to it. The result was poor,
producing a discernible echo. I did not try any sync adjustments.
Bummer. Thanks for the test report, nonetheless.
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running
Have you tried to sync it with other players? If so, how does it
perform?
Thanks for the report, by the way. It's good to finally see some new
products that can take advantage of LMS.
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running piCorePlayer. Mac Mini as a
This is interesting:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/axiomaudio/axiomair-wireless-wifi-speaker-multiroom-sound-sys/comments
Raspberry Pi as the brain, so perhaps Squeezelite will work on it?
The Kickstarter price is in my range...looks like Axiom is going to try
and charge a lot more
I've been using one for several months to replace an SB Duet that was
part of my collection of 4 working SBs. It's been flawless thus far.
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running piCorePlayer. Mac Mini as a server (OS X Yosemite). Direct
Ethernet connection
SlimChances wrote:
Could Nest be the one that unseats Sonos?
http://www.cepro.com/article/nest_audio_coming_soon/
I hope by innovative, they don't mean, doing what 50 other startups
are doing, and not offering meaningful differentiation from one another
or Sonos.
Or, put another way: It's
I think I need a guide for Someone who is too dumb to even use a dummy
guide.
I bought the parts, loaded the software on the card, plugged into
LAN...and I can't even find the RPie on my network. I'm not sure where
to search in the PiCorePlayer thread for any similar issues.
Can anyone point
pippin wrote:
Which device and iOS/Android version was this?
I know some Android devices (I think it depends more on the device than
he Android version) have sync issues but iPeng on iOS should sync as
well as a Squeezebox, at least from iOS 5 on.
iPhone 6, iOS8 and LMS 7.8.1.
I'll try
pippin wrote:
Any spare iThingies or Android devices? With external speakers they make
for pretty good players and one tends to have a few old ones around
these days.
The old IPeng can still be installed on devices with iOS 4.1.2 and newer
and I believe SqueezePlayer on Android still
onairplayer wrote:
We are currently not yet supporting perfect-sync play across multiple
devices, but we're working on it.
Let us know when you do, please. That's one of the big reasons I'm
sticking with LMS and my SBs. The other is Erland's plug-ins, which no
one outside the SB world
Can you sync multiple devices?
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Wanboard? I googled it but as I am not so technically minded it doesn't
mean much to me. I need to use my phone to select the music and radios
from the Synology DiskStation.
I'm not technically minded, either, but have been monitoring the board
for developments in this
cliveb wrote:
If you just want to be able to buy a piece of hardware that will
integrate into your LMS system, pre-built RaspberryPi + HiFiBerry in a
case packages are starting to appear on eBay. Here's are two examples on
the UK eBay site:
I recently bought the Harmony Hub, including the remote. It's designed
primarily as a smartphone app, which is reasonably well designed, but I
wanted a remote with buttons to replace my Harmony One. I like having a
remote that doesn't have a screen that can break (as occurred with both
my
bpa wrote:
Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security
I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out
of necessity, but I try
The iPeng route has a lot of appeal. I'm about to get a new iPhone, so
I could use my old one. I seem to recall a thread devoted to using
iThingies as players, so perhaps I should go dig it up.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller
of choice.
philippe_44 wrote:
I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1
Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at
the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3
and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably
I am not a techie, and don't have even rudimentary programming skills.
Getting my existing SB ecosystem to work the way I wanted it to took me
several years. Networking basics were a challenge, as well as
troubleshooting other issues as they came up. I figured them out,
though, so I'm not a
I assume you cleared the cache? I experienced similar behavior about a
month ago. After trying a number of other 'fixes', I finally got around
to that step and it has been working fine ever since.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB. There are some
interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices
don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come
out with an LMS compatible device. Hell, even highly-touted audiophile
quality
)p( wrote:
They sell a device they call the id. Its basically an intel nuc with
their Linux version of jrmc preinstalled and setup so it works out of
the box.
See:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=89084.0
You can't sync multiple devices, last I read on one of the JRiver
I hadn't realized that LG and Samsung had entered the market. Do they
really have a competitive product?
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I was always a bigger fan of PDQ Bach.
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What makes you think sync is an issue when using squeezelite?
Other folks stating they were having issues at the time.
Keep in mind that I posted that over a month ago. I've seen quite a few
statements since then of people having better experiences with sync.
2-SB3s,
Commercial is not a dirty word, JackOfAll. I'm glad you're finding an
opportunity to get back in the game, and hope at the very least you're
able to recoup what you have already invested.
Being a fervent capitalist myself, I hope you actually end up in the
black when all is said and done.
JJZolx wrote:
This is why I'd love to see someone like John push a manufacturer to not
just help with distribution, but to take up the reigns and really design
a full commercial replacement for Squeezebox.
Me, too. If it improves speed-to-market, and perhaps allows a larger
feature set,
audiomuze wrote:
I don't get why the broader community is in need of some hardware - just
get a Wandboard or like device, install Squeeze on Arch and plug it in
to virtually any asynchronous USB DAC of your choosing and you have a
perfectly functional Squeezebox transport that's in many
ctbarker32 wrote:
Not to pile on but I was wondering what exactly this project hopes to
accomplish over already existing solutions?
I have recently been working with a Raspberry Pi and the Wolfson DAC
addon board combo using the Squeezeplug distro and also the
Picoreplayer. At least with
pippin wrote:
My experience is that recentlySqueezeLite on Linux syncs pretty well,
too.
On Windows, I'm sure you'll needs to use an ASIO driver to ever get
decent sync, I believe there's a SqueezePlay build that supports it.
With Android sync quality depends on the device on iOS it works
Thanks for the update, bibendum. I've been following the comments on
their website and noticed the same things you've observed. The
manufacturing issues you've mentioned make sense...once you switch to
overseas factories it is really tough to stay on top of build quality,
particularly if you
If I wasn't worried about syncing players, which is one of my
have-to-haves, I would really look hard at some of the other
alternatives to Sonos.
Actually, if I didn't have to worry about sync, then I wouldn't even buy
another dedicated streamer, at least for awhile. I'd try out one of the
jimmypowder wrote:
I'm waiting for my Auralic Aries Streamer to arrive the end of June.
I will give everyone a small review of this device when I get it and
have played with it for about a week.
We will see if it's any good.
I'm afraid of the Olive one. Company is a very poor
Well, I bet they don't feel any better about the way things turned out
than you do.
And do we really know how things would have worked out had Logitech not
bought Slim? Who knows what their (Slim's) financial viability might
have been? It's quite possible they were at the point that they
Still monitoring
Communication has been awful. They haven't updated their Facebook page
(where they encourage folks to go for news) since March. If you check
out the Olive One user forum, you'll see a lot of folks asking for
updates on delivery. Many of these folks contributed to the
Reading between the lines of the last several pages of that thread, it
sounds as if there could be some for-profit enterprise that may be
getting involved. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that is the case, as
that would seem more viable than an all-volunteer effort.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet,
I've seen negative references to dlna in these forums, but am not
technical enough to really understand the issue. Is it that there is
some fatal flaw with dlna to make it impossible to have the
functionality of LMS/SB, or is it just faulty execution?
I seem to recall reading somewhere that
As I was performing my periodic search for new products that may
eventually replace my SBs, if/when they ever wear out, I came across
this item that was apparently posted just yesterday:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=89498.0
Has anyone else heard of this product? It looks
I sure hope the disclosure in #2483 doesn't mean that litigation was
being contemplated over this. It would be a shame if folks weren't
allowed to fill the vacuum Logitech left, particularly if no company has
plans to do so.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
Isn't sync problematic? Even a slight delay would be a deal-killer for
me, since I have several within earshot of one another.
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Pascal Hibon wrote:
According to their website, Beep currently does not yet support local
music.
It looks like a sexy product though.
Looks like they fixed that problem:
http://site.thisisbeep.com/blog/2014/2/14/announcing-computer-library-support
I'd likely find the software lacking,
Well, I was able to get Pandora to work again using the web interface
instead of trying to get it going through my remote. Not sure what the
issue was, but I'm going to set up a few Favorites and see if that works
better.
I'm not thrilled with the sound quality at 128k (one of my must-haves).
!)
I think I've covered everything. I'm hoping to get some good
suggestions before everyone shows up for the Memorial Day weekend!
Thanks,
GeeJay
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RussellMrgn wrote:
I am really interested in how this project is going and how close you
are to a unit that can be bought ready assembled ie a finished unit.
Just recently my father passed, and he had a sonos system (play3
bridge) that I decided to try out. Well it sounded okish, but I
Not surprised that Erland's plugins are perhaps the main reason you
stick with LMS. It DOES surprise me, however, that with all the new
products coming on the market, not one appears to be putting any effort
in replicating some of the functionality he brought to the table.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet,
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
If you want the equivalent of a Squeezebox made by Apple then I'd say
Sonos is pretty close.
My thought exactly.
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Looks like this thing may get off the ground yet:
https://olivemediainc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201101764--Update-Mar-4-2014-Manufacturing-of-the-ONE-is-revving-up
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
Thanks, garym. Can't see myself settling for something with so much less
functionality.
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Viventis wrote:
Sonos natively allows the creation of a queue mixing music from your
home collection and streaming services. I just created a short mix of
music from my hard drive, MOG and Amazon Cloud. I did it from the PC
interface in a couple minutes. It's playing as I type this.
Has
I'm curious if Ickstream will eventually allow folks who use streaming
services to continue using their SBs, regardless of the rapid-fire
changes in the industry. I'm more tied to my local music collection, so
this has never been the hot button for me, although I've almost pulled
the trigger on
margava01 wrote:
I just received two bluesounds ( node and power ) and my first review
about them compared with squeezebox touch:
- better sound for the bluesounds ( the audio quality is strong ) and it
is a better product than Sonos for audio. The sound is clear and bold.
- far away from
Usually, when a company is missing deadlines AND unresponsive, that's a
sign of trouble. Even if they ship a few units, my instincts are to
wait for awhile before jumping on board
assuming the product even meets
my needs.
Many thanks to the last few posters for confirming what I already
olc wrote:
And if you are happy with how SB works, the VOCO stuff may be more
similar to what we have now.
Have you tried it yet? What are your impressions? Does the software
offer the same flexibility we currently enjoy?
The latter seems to be the thing that none of the other
I wonder if this product is ever going to come to market. It's now been
over six months since it's scheduled release date, and
nada.
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I'm also curious as to how you used your old system, and if there is
anything missing in Sonos you wish you had.
Personally, I can't live without some of the features in Erland's suite
of plug-ins. Afaik, there is no other product with ratings-driven
dynamic playlists, although I'm still
garym wrote:
One more data point. I sync several real squeezebox players (including
one setup where there are two systems in the same large room, where
being off would be very noticeable). They are rock solid with no
skips, hiccups, or drifting off sync.
Same here. I have a duet, touch and
Thanks for the upgrade, Michael. I have been running 7.7.3 on OSX for
the past month, and it boots and runs flawlessly!
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JohnSwenson wrote:
We ARE working on it! See the Community Squeeze project
(www.communitysqueeze.org). We hope to have our first player in beta
test this year. The software can already be used with a Wandboard if you
wish to hook up to a USB DAC or HDMI. Our first player is going to be a
I switched over to Mac at the beginning of the year, and am also using
XLD for ripping. I miss dbpoweramp, but XLD at least gets the job done.
Plus, it will rip to FLAC, too.
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.
I can't stand using my iPhone as a remote. I had to do so when my
Harmony broke and I was awaiting another. The lack of hard buttons, the
need to click the home button to turn the thing on...I can't be the only
one that prefers a dedicated universal remote?
2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an
My stuff works fine for now, so I enjoy checking in every few weeks on
the progress of the various hardware and software projects that are in
the works. It sounds like there will be some viable products by the end
of the year, and some of the software development (notably ickstream)
may allow
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aubuti wrote:
This is very welcome news indeed, all the more so because of who is
involved. I haven't been in any hurry to worry about what happens
post-mysb.com, but I've signed up on your site and am looking forward to
following your progress with ickstream. Good luck with it!
My
Most of my friends have crappy taste in music, so no.
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I like the cassette with hearts, too. And Community Squeeze gets the
idea across that this is a user-driven project.
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My own experience with powerline adapters is mixed. Your success will
depend on the wiring in your house. They tend to work well if the
sending and receiving devices are on the same circuit, but may not work
as well otherwise. I also found that I had buffering problems if someone
was running
You say your fourth priority is SuperDateTime. That's a plug-in I use as
well, and I've not read that Sonos has anything like it.
High on my list, probably #2 after multi-room sync, is ratings support
of random dynamic playlists. I have researched that, and Sonos doesn't
have it. For me at
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Plank wrote:
Can't you accomplish roughly the same thing as an Olive with an iPad
mini and an Airport express? I've been happy using iTunes match and
about 10 internet radio apps.
Does sync work? My understanding is that is one of the main issues with
this kind of setup. I have several
gruntwolla wrote:
+1
ps Are you going to preorder one, or are you just going to watch like me
and pay more next July!!
I'll wait and see how it develops. If the software isn't any good, it
doesn't matter how sexy the hardware is.
I'm still confused about the specs. The discussion here is
Scratch that last post. A more thorough reading of the entire site
reveals enough details that I understand the concerns raised here. You
would think they would recognize the market for a unit that can be
integrated into an existing stereo system, but apparently not.
Well, I for one will be watching Olive One closely over the next year. I
like the approach: open source, community input, multi-room capability,
decent price point. Let's face it, the odds that another product comes
along that does everything Squeeze does, and more, is highly unlikely.
I'll be
Looks like they are trying to raise capital, too. $200k, which doesn't
seem like much to me.
Cool concept and design. I'm interested.
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erland wrote:
Some questions (to you or anybody else reading this thread):
1. On which devices do you use the ratings today, is it only on
Squeezebox or also with some other kind of player hardware ?
2. On which devices would you like to use the ratings in the future ? Is
it only on
castalla wrote:
Scared? Are they frightened by anything else?
Scoff if you will, but I think they are representative of the broader
market Logitech has failed to reach. It really disappoints me that my
wife will plug in her iPhone to a set of external speakers rather than
use the SB
One of my biggest must haves once I am finally forced to replace my
SBs and LMS is the ability to rate tracks. I find myself very dependent
on Erland's suite of plug-ins for this purpose. I rate tracks, use
filters to create playlists that weight heavily towards highly rated
tracks, and really
I've owned and used Squeezeboxes for over 5 years. My wife and two
college-aged daughters are still scared of it.
That tells me everything I need to know about why Logitech couldn't
advance the product line beyond the truly passionate music enthusiast.
I love volume control the way you have it. I hope you don't remove the
slider.
I've often wondered why SB Touch doesn't have an option to show the year
of the album on the default Now Playing screen. I would love to see it
on iPeng.
I like how the extra screen real estate allows you to use larger fonts
on the Now Playing screen, and not have to squeeze all the information
into the header bar as you have with the current version. Very nice!
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It seems like the some more blog comments now have been moderated, at
least a few more is now visible including some answers.
There wasn't much news, but a few things were clarified:
- They will not provide an upgrade path for the Touch or any other
Squeezebox
gb115b wrote:
i guess sonos can have my money now...
I wish this was a viable option for me. Unfortunately, Sonos lacks some
key functionality that will require me to search for another alternative
once my current system gives out. I'm hoping Logitech will react
positively to Erland's request
PasTim wrote:
Erland's tools, and the things you can do by adding to or modifying his
basic tools, give you more control over what you want to play than
anything else I have yet found :-)
And until someone replicates that, I will stick with my SBs until they
die and I can no longer find
sander wrote:
2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out
are:
How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices?
I actually found a report from '06 that says they paid $20 million. I'd
provide a link but I'm too lazy to go search for it again.
bobm wrote:
I think I am optimistic. If Logitech comes out a a UE touch, I assume I
will be able to play my local flac files with the new LMS (forget the
name) and stream online content? I wish they were backward compadablie
with the current LMS but at least the road won't end for me. Am
erland wrote:
Which functionality do you feel is crucial that the UE Smart Radio adds
to make you upgrade your whole system to the UE Smart Radio platform ?
It would have to retain the ability to run random playlists based on a
variety of factors, such as genres, years, ratings, etc. I would
mherger wrote:
There might soon be a workaround for Random Mix in the nightlies. It's
not
as smart as on LMS, but probably good enough for many uses (queue up a
list of 100 random tracks - no automated renewal)
This is progress! A few days ago there was no mention of Random Mix at
jimzak wrote:
It's progress until you consider that you can only listen in mono on the
new radio unless you get two of them and play one channel on each ;)
Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying all is forgiven yet. Logitech has a
long way to go before they get back in my good graces. The fact
I've been holding off buying another Touch, watching the prices on
Amazon since the announcement. They had been holding steady at $239, but
I noticed tonight the price on new Touches inched up to $249.
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It was announced 8/29. Or rather, LogitechUE was announced. The only
mention of Squeezebox was the statement that the company would still
support LMS and mysb.com. They have retained the Radio, although the new
software focuses on ease of use vs flexibility/functionality.
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