Yes this was unnecessary , there are already to many formats would have
been better if apple incorporated FLAC in their products.
But that's thinking beyond pride and short term profit .
pipe dream :
1 lossy and 1 lossless format, with a tagging/metadata system endorsed
and understood by both
I sometimes enjoy latenight live talk radio. I particularly enjoy WBZ's
Steve LeVeille Broadcast. I used to listen to Larry King's all night
show and when I lived in Milwaukee I enjoyed a host by the name of Ira
Fistell (not many may know that name) .
I ask the members of this forum are there
Personally I think this is bad news. It is the thin end of a wedge that
will see ALAC slowly surplant FLAC as the de-facto lossless codec of
choice. I don't trust Apple's motives. Just because this particular
release of their codec is now in the wild does not mean future versions
will be. I
cliveb;665817 Wrote:
personally i think this is bad news. It is the thin end of a wedge that
will see alac slowly surplant flac as the de-facto lossless codec of
choice. I don't trust apple's motives. Just because this particular
release of their codec is now in the wild does not mean future
erland;665703 Wrote:
If I remember correctly, when the Transporter was first released, Slim
Devices selected to not put their Slim Devices brand on the front
instead they tried to start a new brand transporter, the main reason
was probably that Slim Devices (and even more so Logitech) gives
cliveb;665819 Wrote:
Sure, they probably did a bit of research and understood how the devices
worked, but I get the feeling that nobody in Logitech understood the
Slim Devices vision.
I think that sums it up very well. Turns out that the 'slim'
client-server approach used by Slim Devices was
JJZolx;665822 Wrote:
I think that sums it up quite well. Turns out that the 'slim'
client-server approach used by Slim Devices was totally wrong for the
consumer market. That's how we ended up with so much reliance on
mysqueezebox.com, and with products marketed not for their ability to
erland;665802 Wrote:
The big advantage with ALAC from my perspective would be that suddenly
I can use the same files both in Squeezebox and Apple ecosystem.
YE. Finally.
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JJZolx;665822 Wrote:
I think that sums it up quite well. Turns out that the 'slim'
client-server approach used by Slim Devices was totally wrong for the
consumer market. That's how we ended up with so much reliance on
mysqueezebox.com, and with products marketed not for their ability to
cliveb;665817 Wrote:
I don't trust Apple's motives.
It depends what you think are those motives...
cliveb;665817 Wrote:
I predict that once Apple has rendered other lossless codecs obsolete,
they will improve ALAC and keep it closed source, then extract
lucrative licence fees from all
But the fact remain no native ALAC for SB3 SB3 reciever or Boom is
possible.
(well it is possible if you throw out something else, like encryption
for some services... )
So server transcoding is still needed for all the old players , but now
with possibly improved reliability.
Touch and Radio
I am with Paul Raulerson, if only for his imaginative way of putting
things!
I really want to hook up a asynchronous USB dac to a SB, which at this
moment is not really feasible. Soundcheck (with his Touch Toolbox) made
the USB port available for output, but the USB driver on the Touch is
too
Hi-Fi shops not carrying SB:
I'd bet margin is a big factor as well. Such smaller retailers low
volume + high margin. So a Touch with an MSRP of $300 there is not
much margin, so I'd guess a Sonos (or other) higher dollar system
better fits their business model.
MySqueezeBox.com:
Yes, unneeded
warpian;665836 Wrote:
I am with Paul Raulerson, if only for his imaginative way of putting
things!
I really want to hook up a asynchronous USB dac to a SB, which at this
moment is not really feasible. Soundcheck (with his Touch Toolbox) made
the USB port available for output, but the USB
bjs;665789 Wrote:
Interesting news:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/27/apples-alac-codec-is-now-open-source/Unfortunately
I think there is still a part of this story missing...
Apple .M4A music files consist of a raw data music stream, that is
wrapped inside an ISO MPEG4 file container.
MPEG4
I've been getting up to speed with Erland's plugins - MultiLibrary and
CustomBrowse in particular - and having the ability to customize the
top-level menu items in SqueezePad is crucial to make the best use of
the plugins. Are there any plans for implementing this?
Or is there already a way via
AndrewFG;665859 Wrote:
Unfortunately I think there is still a part of this story missing...
Apple .M4A music files consist of a raw data music stream, that is
wrapped inside an ISO MPEG4 file container.
MPEG4 is an open ISO standard that defines a nestable structure of
boxes, where each
Mnyb;665863 Wrote:
Ok this means that this open support is basically useless we have to
rely on reverse engineered stuff anyway.No. Apple already made a good step in
the right direction. -- They just
need to finish the journey...
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AndrewFG
Try out Whitebear. The
lucas72;665833 Wrote:
cliveb;665817 Wrote:
Rather than everyone else adding support for ALAC, wouldn't it just be
easier for Apple to support FLAC?
Of course not, why a company should force their customers to convert
all their audio files?! Makes much more sense that new customers
aubuti;665870 Wrote:
Quite the contrary
True. Sorry too much beer today.
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When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet
We've added a simple app to work around the recent insanity where TuneIn
was forced to remove all of CBS's radio streams from their radio index.
So, if you need to find any CBS stations, you can add this app.
http://www.mysqueezebox.com/appgallery/CBSRadio
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correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the transporter does not support
HW decoding for alac. for this reason, and because i use iTunes for
library management, i've kept my library as AIFF. sure, takes up more
space, but hard drives are cheap.
the other reason being i can hear the difference
netchord;665885 Wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the transporter does not support
HW decoding for alac. for this reason, and because i use iTunes for
library management, i've kept my library as AIFF. sure, takes up more
space, but hard drives are cheap.
the other reason
AndrewFG;665859 Wrote:
Unfortunately I think there is still a part of this story missing...
Apple .M4A music files consist of a raw data music stream, that is
wrapped inside an ISO MPEG4 file container.
MPEG4 is an open ISO standard that defines a nestable structure of
boxes, where each
toby10;665837 Wrote:
Hi-Fi shops not carrying SB:
I'd bet margin is a big factor as well.
Yep, definitely more likely to be the factor than sound quality even
though there is some merit to the concept of SbS being a bit difficult
to explain.
toby10;665837 Wrote:
MySqueezeBox.com:
Yes,
alfista;665889 Wrote:
Originally Posted by toby10
Hi-Fi shops not carrying SB:
I'd bet margin is a big factor as well.
Yep, definitely more likely to be the factor than sound quality even
though there is some merit to the concept of SbS being a bit difficult
to explain.
That's
mps;665683 Wrote:
That sounds great! Would you be willing to post/pm the code for the
playlist?
Mike,
No problem. Actually the SQL Playlist plugin used to have a feature
which allowed users to publish their own customized playlist scripts so
that they can be accessed by everyone (see
GeeJay;665790 Wrote:
my standard random playlist will play 5-star tracks 100% of the time,
4-star tracks 75% of the time, and 3-star tracks 50% of the time, so
it's more than just a thumbs-up, thumbs-down decision.
+1 (although I think you mean 100/75/50 as weightings as opposed to %
of the
briank;665902 Wrote:
It seems several people have rating-weighted scripts - its a pity
there's not a shared/standard/built-in one. I think Erland's standard
ones come close but not close enough. Sugarcube plugin may be the best
course for this horse but sql playlist scripts seem the
andyg;665879 Wrote:
We've added a simple app to work around the recent insanity where TuneIn
was forced to remove all of CBS's radio streams from their radio index.
So, if you need to find any CBS stations, you can add this app.
http://www.mysqueezebox.com/appgallery/CBSRadio
This is
I think it's great news, it removes most of the open source arguments at
a stroke. I can't see Apple going back on this, what would be the
reason?
Anyway I'll be moving to an Apple tv come Christmas if Santa is good to
me. Far too much trouble running my old squeezebox 2 these days. The
last
Now also the iPad version including the playback behind lock screen
fix is rolling out on the App Store.
It also has one nice new feature for iOS 5: It shows NowPlaying
information, including Cover Art on the lock screen. You can also get
volume/play/pause/skip/AirPlay control when
CBS provides the stream listing and are responsible for the stream title
choices and lack of metadata.
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ismarketing;639171 Wrote:
I do some work for WNYC. I have reported this issue to Sr. programming
management. Hopefully there will be a quick resolution.
ismarketing, not sure if you're still hanging around here, but the
exact same problem has popped up again with WNYC. I was hoping you
I will let them know.
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ismarketing;665942 Wrote:
I will let them know.
Thanks! definitely seems to be the mp3 stream. The two methods that
work are both showing up as AAC stream.
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erland;665776 Wrote:
If we want to start something new, it's easy to just post a link on the
official Logitech support forums when the catastrophe has happened.
good point
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erland;665904 Wrote:
The Random rated songs template is included with SQL Playlist, it will
give you the choice to specify percentage of tracks rated less than 3
stars that should be included. Specifying 20% will give you 80% (3-5
stars) and 20% (1-2 stars)
I wonder if it would make sense
Phil Leigh;665705 Wrote:
I bet once you have rated something 1 or 2 you never listen to it again
- so it might as well be removed from the collection. So the 1-5 scheme
basically resolves into good or not good - and you might as well just
jettison the not good stuff. That's what I do.
In
andyg;665793 Wrote:
ALAC seeking is supported. But yes this is great news, we can finally
implement the official decoder.
So is there any hope that we might see firmware updates for legacy
devices such as the Transporter or Classic so they will understand
ALAC
some day?
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loneagle;665961 Wrote:
So is there any hope that we might see firmware updates for legacy
devices such as the Transporter or Classic so they will understand
ALAC
some day?
The amount of code for ALAC is actually quite small, so who knows,
maybe it would be possible.
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andyg
andyg;665965 Wrote:
The amount of code for ALAC is actually quite small, so who knows, maybe
it would be possible.
Count one big vote from an owner of multiple SB2's and 3's!
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Actually I should mention that the code Apple released doesn't appear to
include any MP4 code, only code to decode raw CAF (CoreAudio Format)
files, and of course basically all ALAC files are going to be in MP4.
So that would require additional code...
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erland;665802 Wrote:
Are there any advantages of using FLAC now when ALAC is open sourced ?
Last time I tested, stereo FLAC files were slightly smaller than their
FLAC counterparts...and mono FLAC files were a *lot* smaller.
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atrocity
andyg;664493 Wrote:
I don't think I've ever heard of someone wanting gaps! You should listen
to the music the way it was intended, and the same way it plays on a CD.
:)
Is it gapless? is always my first question about any device...usually
the answer is no and I immediately lose interest.
Working again. Thanks!
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Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter,
Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
Location 2: Win7(64) laptop SbS 7.6.2 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop)
Retired: SB3,
andyg;665965 Wrote:
The amount of code for ALAC is actually quite small, so who knows, maybe
it would be possible.
Interesting and positive :) was not the memory/cpu/something in the SB3
so limited that the bridging function was sacrificed for some change in
the encryption for some service
(
Mnyb;665809 Wrote:
Yes this was unnecessary , there are already to many formats would have
been better if apple incorporated FLAC in their products.
But that's thinking beyond pride and short term profit .
You know, I hear a lot of this, but there are far more devices out
there using
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