Re: [slim] NAS Advice

2020-08-03 Thread atrocity


d6jg wrote: 
> 
> 1. Get a NAS from either manufacturer but consider the storage
> requirement carefully. You can always upgrade the disks at a later
> stage.
> 2. Get yourself a Pi4. Install piCorePlayer and LMS on the Pi. Point it
> at the storage on the NAS.

Another advantage to having a Pi in the system is that it can handle the
backups. The primary storage can be on fancy NASes, but the Pi can host
external USB drives and automatically perform automatic backups using
rsync jobs scheduled via crontab. (That's pretty much what I've been
doing for years now.)

I'm curious if the new 8GB Pi 4 models work well with zfs (allegedly the
most reliable file system out there). My guess in that case is that
having two Pi 4 boxes (a primary and a backup) hosting USB drives would
probably be both cheaper and more robust than a commercial NAS, but
maybe I'm crazy.



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-18 Thread atrocity


If you have any DTS and/or AC-3 tracks, be sure to NOT add ReplayGain
tags to them.



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Re: [slim] Weird Playlist behavior

2020-06-04 Thread atrocity


netchord wrote: 
> bumping this.  after moving to a RPi running pCP, i'm still having this
> issue, so seems clear it's an LMS problem (happened on both 7.9.2 and
> 8), or a player issue.  i've spelunked through the settings for both,
> and don't see anything obvious that would cause this.

If you rescan playlists does the log say any tracks can't be found?



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Re: [slim] Some Rasberry Pi / LMS questions for a complete beginner.

2019-09-09 Thread atrocity


mandryka wrote: 
> 1. Are some SD cards less reliable than others? I wonder if mine failed
> because I have a bad quality card. 

I've had at least two of the better known brands (Samsung, SanDisk) fail
on me. When I looked around for allegedly more reliable ones, I found
Transcend High Endurance and have used nothing else for years now. Not a
single one has failed.

Of course this is ONE person's experience and it's possible I was just
unlucky with the other cards followed by getting lucky with the
Transcend. But at this point the price difference is sufficiently
uninteresting to make me want to stick with alleged high-endurance
cards. They're often sold as being suitable for dashcams as they
allegedly stand up better to repeated rewrites.

I also usually go no lower than 32GB on the assumption that extra space
means fewer writes over the same sectors...but I could be laughably
wrong about that.



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Re: [slim] ickStream Shutdown

2019-06-03 Thread atrocity

erland wrote: 
> Just for information to anyone still using ickStream Music Platform.
> 
> As we indicated two months ago we have now permanently shutdown the
> ickStream servers.
> 
> At the moment there are no plans to start the ickStream service again
> but if your company still feels the need to use some of our technology
> or has the need for or interest in a continued service, please feel free
> to contact us, we are open for all kind of options including licensing,
> sale of our technology or the ickStream GmbH company.

I'm sorry that it didn't work out, but tack så mycket very much for
trying and sticking with it for as long as you did!



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Re: [slim] SD Card & Car: Track order wrong

2019-03-05 Thread atrocity


emalvick wrote: 
> I think the key thing is that the software built into these stereo units
> is not great and the technology has shown minimal progress.  I've had
> cars with these types of features (able to plug an SD card, CD, USB with
> files on it) since about 2010.  They are often limited to id3v1, miss
> gapless, occasionally only play in the order files are written, etc.  I
> know you know that as you mentioned it up front, but it's almost 10
> years since I got my first car with these features; you think they would
> improve.  And, given you have an Audi, I would expect better by now.  

They want to do the bare minimum amount of work that will allow them to
list it as a "feature".



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Re: [slim] SD Card & Car: Track order wrong

2019-03-04 Thread atrocity


I've given up on gapless for most non-LMS players. As someone who
usually plays whole albums, my workaround is a Linux script that
concatenates FLACs into a single file and then turns that into an MP3.



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Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise

2018-06-30 Thread atrocity


Dogberry2 wrote: 
> What, you mean you don't prefer a high noise floor, terrible
> signal-to-noise ratio, plenty of hiss, wow and flutter, with
> continuously degrading wear and worsening sound every time you listen to
> an album? What are you, a heretic? Any vinyl cult follower will tell you
> all that crappy noise stuff translates into a "warmer sound"!

I just got the new Andy Partridge 10" yesterday. It sounds shockingly
good...except for the side that's wildly off-center...and ends with a
single long, sustained note.



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Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise

2018-06-18 Thread atrocity

Mnyb wrote: 
> People much younger than me thinks vinyl i kind of hip hence its current
> comeback .
> 
> I abamdoned it in the early 90’s sometimes wonderng if i should take it
> up again as a nostalgig thing.
> 
> My parents also gave up vinyl at the same time , but i do think must
> audiophiles are my dad’s ago or slightly older.
> With them a lot of silly things would ll die.
> Most normal people of that age probably have a harder time to abandon
> vhs and fm radio at home ( fm radio in the car is sad necessity)

I've been on a vinyl digitizing kick again lately and have been doing my
collection of Warner Brothers Loss Leaders. I'm occasionally surprised
at how good some of it sounds, but it's sure variable! Even the same
side of a record can start out horrible but be terrific by the end. It's
interesting to also get visual confirmation of what I'm hearing:
ClickRepair will show me it's doing all kinds of work on some passages
and nothing at all on others.



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Re: [slim] LMS AAC/M4A gapless

2018-03-11 Thread atrocity

I noticed non-gaplessness with AAC a few months back and found that the
problem only occurred with synced players. Streaming to a single player
worked fine.

As others have pointed out the issues with M4A file layout, I'll mention
that recent versions of Foobar2000 have an option under utilities to
optimize the file layout. Not sure if that will help you, but in my
experience it doesn't hurt anything.



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Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-11 Thread atrocity

bakker_be wrote: 
> Ever since they stopped allowing the use of rclone, I've been
> investigating alternatives. This is just another factor prompting a
> switch. Since I only need a backup solution I intend to try Crashplan
> ...

I love that I learned about rclone mere days before it was banned. But
that ban got me to immediately request non-renewal of my ACD account. I
signed up with hubiC, which works just fine with rclone, but my
multi-terabyte library is currently on day five of the backup process. I
don't think it's painfully slow, it's just not blazingly fast.

I also use CrashPlan, but "painfully slow" definitely applies. The price
and feature set are fantastic, but it's definitely something you use
AFTER you have your local backup figured out.



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Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-21 Thread atrocity

Testing hubiC at the moment. 25GB free and it works with rclone. Their
largest plan is 10TB, which works for me for now, so I just might go for
it.

rclone developer is hopeful that he can work things out with Amazon.



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Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread atrocity

drmatt wrote: 
> They don't like the word "unlimited" as much as their marketing would
> have you believe, apparently...

If I understand the situation correctly (and I'm not sure that I do)
rclone's developer had to work with Amazon to get the app approved, but
Amazon banned it without warning or consulting him and has yet to
respond to his inquiries. For now, I've told Amazon not to renew my plan
when it expires in August. If they allow rclone again, I'll probably
keep the service, but for people with large music libraries the
inability to automate a sync makes even "unlimited" useless. I'd be OK
(not thrilled, but OK) if they'd just allow it with --dry-run so I could
see what needs to be done and do it manually, but absent that or a
similar tool, forget it.

I'm currently testing a 10GB backup to https://hubic.com - they have a
25GB free version that works with rclone. Unfortunately, they don't have
an unlimited plan, though their 10TB should work (for now!) for me. The
test isn't finished yet, but it's been running for a few hours and seems
to be working well:


Code:

Transferred:   7.864 GBytes (726.991 kBytes/s)
  Errors: 0
  Checks: 1
  Transferred: 4942
  Elapsed time:3h9m1.9s
  




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Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread atrocity

bakker_be wrote: 
> Since posting this, I've uploaded ±1TB of music to Amazon :p

And, just like that, Amascum has banned rclone.

https://forum.rclone.org/t/rclone-has-been-banned-from-amazon-drive/2314/10



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Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-17 Thread atrocity

bakker_be wrote: 
> Ehm, aren't we confusing *GOOGLE* drive and *AMAZON* drive here?
> 
> Back to Amazon Drive:
> 'rclone' (https://rclone.org/) seems to support it, and it has a "check"
> function that compares file hashes allowing you to skip files that
> calculate as identical.

THANK YOU for this!!! I just set it up yesterday and it seems to be
working fine. Greatly preferable to trying to sync using Amazon's
horrific W*nd*ws client.



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Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?

2017-02-27 Thread atrocity

Paul Dorn wrote: 
> For those of you who only care about local music, the Squeezebox devices
> should continue to work.  But I suspect those of us making a lot of use
> of services such as Pandora would find their Squeezebox devices far less
> useful than they are today.

You're right, of course. I occasionally use Tidal but LMS mostly serves
up my 100k+ tracks and Internet radio. I tend to selfishly forget that
other people have different needs. Having said that, it seems like there
are respected alternatives for those who use the services but still
nothing with the amazing cost/value ratio as LMS for local libraries.

Paul Dorn wrote: 
> On that topic, I want to thank Logitech for continuing their support for
> the backends.  I think they have gone way beyond what is required.  I
> know we all hated when they discontinued the Squeezebox line. But I'm
> amazed online services are still provided.

Seconded!



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Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?

2017-02-23 Thread atrocity

mherger wrote: 
> 
> Don't forget that Logitech is still providing a whole lot of 
> infrastructure which would need to be replaced by the community: build 
> systems, download servers, this forum etc. That could become a problem.

There would definitely be some initial pain, that's for sure. But it
seems likely that there'd be too much interest in keeping it going to
have it just fade away.

And please let me again take this opportunity to sincerely thank you for
all you've done and continue to do!



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Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?

2017-02-22 Thread atrocity

liffy99 wrote: 
> Given that LMS support no longer exists

It doesn't?

Seriously, even if Logitech completely pulls the plug I don't see LMS
going away for a long, long time.



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Re: [slim] How to fix music track that Transporter plays back twice as fast?

2016-12-27 Thread atrocity

Wombat wrote: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserDisc
> NTSC discs have a 44.056kHz audio track.

Yep...I did things backwards and Googled that AFTER I stupidly
questioned it in public. :)

But I still wonder what really comes out of the digital output. I
started using the optical output on a Panasonic player into a Sony
receiver circa 1992 and everything just worked, with the Sony indicating
a 44.1 sample rate. Is 44.056 simply close enough that nothing complains
or is the output upsampled to 44.1?



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Re: [slim] How to fix music track that Transporter plays back twice as fast?

2016-12-25 Thread atrocity

megarat wrote: 
> The LD's native digital audio is Redbook-esque, but not precisely so,
> being 16 bit and 44056 Hz.

That's the first time I've ever heard that. My inner skeptic wonders how
that would work when plugged into equipment expecting 44.1 and why an
oddball sample rate like that wouldn't completely break DTS. Are you
sure that's the real sample rate and, if so, that players don't already
concert to 44.1 before outputting? Though I also have trouble believing
circa 1990 consumer equipment could convert on the fly that well.

On the other hand, maybe you're right and it explains why I got
intermittent single sample pops when attempting to capture LD output via
optical TOSLINK into a standalone CD recorder.



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Re: [slim] Music Backup in the Cloud

2016-05-31 Thread atrocity

Squeezemenicely wrote: 
> Mission accomplished, my music is now backed up in the cloud, more than
> 1 TB. Amazon really has good upload speed. Now I feel a bit safer. So
> the worst bit is behind me, the initial upload. From now on my NAS will
> automatically sync with the cloud. So all is good.

What I've learned so far about the Amazon Cloud Windows client:

1. It will not install from a "network location" (i.e., NAS).  I can't
imagine why that check was even put in there...and the installer just
initiates a download of the real code, anyway!

2. If you're running a VPN, attempting to log on just results in a claim
that the client can't connect to the Internet.  As soon as you
disconnect the VPN (i.e., compromise your security) it will connect. 
Again, I can't even imagine why that check was put in there.

3. There are no encryption options at all that I can see.  Whatever
you're uploading appears to be completely visible to Amazon to do with
whatever they please.  Or maybe it's all encrypted with some default
users can't control.

4. It will fail to upload files when it deems the path name too long.

5. If you accidentally create a directory via the client, you can only
delete it via the web interface.



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Re: [slim] Music Backup in the Cloud

2016-05-28 Thread atrocity

JerryS wrote: 
> Your post gives me the courage to confess to an act of stupidity which
> may serve as a warning to others.  Initiating a Grsync backup session
> before switching on the machine containing the files to be backed up,
> does exactly what you say, very fast  catastrophic deletion of files
> from the back up disk.. Doh...

Been there!  My main rsync job (the #1 backup) is wrapped in a Perl
script that counts directories on the source drive and doesn't do
anything if nothing is found.

I haven't found this to be an issue since putting everything under
Ubuntu, but it bit me pretty hard once when I was doing file sharing
under Windows.  Both Vista and 7 had a nasty habit of deciding they
didn't want to share any more...



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Re: [slim] Music Backup in the Cloud

2016-05-21 Thread atrocity

My routine:

1. Scheduled rsync backs up primary to local backup #1 once a day.

2. Scheduled rsync with --dry-run parameter compares primary to local
backup #2 once per day and reports what needs to change.  If the report
makes sense, I manually run it without --dry-run.

3. CrashPlan running 24/7 in a dedicated Ubuntu VM.

Steps 1 and 2 give me two backups with the second NOT being prone to
catastrophic auto-deletion should something go horribly wrong with
primary storage.



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Re: [slim] How Replay Gain Works

2015-12-05 Thread atrocity

Fahzz wrote: 
> So... Smart Gain not working. I'm wondering if the SB3 has Smart Gain
> capability

I always used SmartGain when my players were SB3s...



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Re: [slim] Chromecast Audio ideal for Squeezebox replacement hardware?

2015-10-09 Thread atrocity

poing wrote: 
> Does the Chromecast Audio, when used in conjunction with Squeeze2Upnp,
> support (i) tight synchronization, (ii) ReplayGain, (iii) gapless
> playback,  etc.?

And is it bit-perfect so it will work with DTS and AC-3?



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Re: [slim] Sirius Dead on the Logitech Devices

2015-09-30 Thread atrocity

netchord wrote: 
> i'm getting a message on all channels today alerting me to the
> forthcoming change.  essentially, a guy is reading the email we got last
> week.  it's on all channels, and seems to be in a continuous loop.
> 
> since i'm not prepared to invest in new hardware, it's addio SiriusXM.

Yep.  I made it clear that this was the final straw when I called and
cancelled this morning.



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Re: [slim] Click at end of ripped track or long silences at end of tracks FIX

2015-09-09 Thread atrocity

Julf wrote: 
> 'Morituri' (http://thomas.apestaart.org/morituri/trac/), since at least
> 2009...

2009?!?!  I didn't realize it had been THAT long since I'd looked! 
Thank you for the link!



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Re: [slim] Click at end of ripped track or long silences at end of tracks FIX

2015-09-08 Thread atrocity

TheIBM wrote: 
> Have not identified the source but it was probably the windo app 
> 'EAC'  (I stupidly didn't use my Linux machine!)

I'm far from a Windows apologist, but unless there's some incredibly
screwed up configuration, EAC is most certainly -not- creating botched
files.

Has anyone yet come up with a Linux ripper that consults the AccurateRip
database? It would be nice to see that finally happen.



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Re: [slim] Hiss - 16/44.1 WAV

2015-09-01 Thread atrocity

amey01 wrote: 
> I strange issue I can't seem to find any previous posts on
> 
> I've got a 16 bit / 44.1 kHz .WAV file that just plays back as hiss /
> white noise. 
> 
> 1. I can play other .WAV files without issue on my SBT.
> 2. This particular file plays fine on VLC. 
> 
> What could the issue be?

Is it possibly a DTS file that VLC is decoding on the fly?



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Re: [slim] Cable Connection Advice

2015-08-31 Thread atrocity

Mnyb wrote: 
> i dont supose anyone has any cassettes left either they dont age well

I've found that quality blanks (TDK and Maxell) have aged just fine but
pre-recorded titles are likely to drag and squeal.

I still play reels, too!

Even more obscure, I use analog quadraphonic decoders and am disturbed
at the disappearance of multichannel analog inputs on most new
equipment.



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Re: [slim] Murfies' Law

2015-08-04 Thread atrocity

SlimChances wrote: 
 I downloaded an album of Joe Satriani from the web site 'Murfie's Music'
 (https://www.murfie.com/) and put into my library but LMS refuses to
 recognize the album or any songs in the album either under New Music,
 Folders, or search. I have done several scans to no avail. I have never
 had an album not recognized by LMS. Any suggestions?

Can you play the files on your computer using whatever software you'd
normally use?



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Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

2015-07-22 Thread atrocity

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 I converted the FLAC back to WAV and went to import, what I thought
 would be a DTS encoded file.  It was a 6-channel interleaved WAV that
 had NEVER been DTS encoded... hence the problem with everything trying
 to read it.  Obviously, if I ever listened to it, it was from the
 original DVD-A disc.  ;-)
 
 I feel stupid!!  Re-encoding both of those albums now.

You read my mind!  I was thinking about your error message this morning
and remembered that I had seen it when sending a multichannel FLAC to a
player.

Not sure how it works on a Mac, but if you can sort your library by file
size you may be able to spot any other similar files as they'd be large.



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Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

2015-07-21 Thread atrocity

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 I'm on a Mac, so there isn't a c:\.  Can I run this in the Mac Terminal?

As long as FLAC is installed, you should be able to.  I do it in Linux
all the time.  I can't remember if I had to specifically install FLAC,
if it's just standard with Ubuntu or if installing LMS also installed
FLAC.

https://xiph.org/flac/download.html makes it look like
http://xact.scottcbrown.org/ might be useful.



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Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

2015-07-20 Thread atrocity

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 Any ideas?  These files have played before WITHOUT ISSUE.

Is it only the Transporter that doesn't want to play the DTS tracks?

Can you use the FLAC command line to test the files in question for
corruption?  (Sorry, I can't remember the command, but it should be easy
enough to look up.)



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Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

2015-07-20 Thread atrocity

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 The transporter is the only device hooked up to my 5.1 receiver.

But even just getting white noise (or not turning on your amp at all)
would let you test if other players can access the files without blowing
up.

In theory, any player should see DTS in a FLAC container as just any
other FLAC, so I'd want to first rule out file corruption as the cause
of the trouble.



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Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

2015-07-20 Thread atrocity

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 Atrocity, same issue with SB3... Same ERROR on screen, in fact I'll try
 restoring FLAC files from a backup set.

If you still have trouble, try the FLAC test command:


Code:

flac -t File to Test.flac



You might have to prepend the directory with the FLAC executable, e.g.:


Code:

C:\flac\flac -t File to Test.flac



If nothing is wrong with the file, the command should return:


Code:

File to Test.flac: ok




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Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?

2015-05-06 Thread atrocity

CatBus wrote: 
 I could probably handle #7 and #8 via the SlimServer web interface (or
 some other interface) on a phone or tablet, although I really do
 strongly prefer using the IR remote control over the web interface.

We all prefer what we prefer and there's nothing wrong with that, but if
you've never tried using one of the smartphone control apps I'd strongly
suggest that you try one.  You might be pleasantly surprised.  It's
really the best of both worlds in that it's small and handheld like an
IR remote but considerably more flexible because of the screen.

I'm fortunate in that all my official products still work as well
(though one has a dying IR sensor), but I've been playing with
Wandboards and RPis.  I really appreciate the fact that a Wandboard Quad
makes a great player (up to 24/192 out of the box) *and* server.  For
boring reasons, I run multiple servers and they've all been Wandboards
for a while now.



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Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?

2015-03-19 Thread atrocity

epoch1970 wrote: 
 These days I tend to replace drives every 2 years. A brand is no
 guarantee.

I just had to replace a Buffalo NAS after less than a year and a half. 
Sure glad I back everything up!



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Re: [slim] If CD won't rip is it grounds for return?

2015-02-03 Thread atrocity

d6jg wrote: 
 My real question I suppose is has anyone seen this before? 100% ok in a
 CD player but only 50% ok in a PC. If it was 0% in the PC I could sort
 of understand.

I've seen:

1. Discs that look perfect and play fine but refuse to rip cleanly in
any drive

2. Discs that look perfect and play fine but will only rip cleanly in
*some* drives

3. Discs that look chewed up but read perfectly in a single pass

4. Discs with damage that interfered with normal playback but that
ripped cleanly

5. Bronzed PDO discs that looked screwed up but ripped just fine

6. And yes, visually-perfect discs where only some tracks can be read in
some drives

After ripping too-many-thousand CDs I think I've seen it all.  I can't
make any generalizations about commercially-produced discs, but I can
say that those who sprung for Taiyo Yuden and/or Mitsui CD-Rs did not
waste their money.

I keep a couple of very, very old IDE Teac and Plextor drives around and
mount them in a USB adaptor for problem discs.  Sometimes even a brand
new disc requires hooking one or both of them up to get a clean read.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2015 - Is the Squeezebox Universe Expanding of Shrinking?

2014-12-31 Thread atrocity

I don't know if SqueezeWorld is overall shrinking or expanding, but I
know that I've personally set up and given or sold multiple Wandboard
Quads running SoA or CSOS to friends and family.  And I'm currently
building another system for someone else.



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Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-12 Thread atrocity

erland wrote: 
 Is the multi disc album track order still incorrect ?
 I tried the The Velvet Underground  Nico 45th Anniversary (Deluxe
 Edition) album you showed in the screenshot and it now looks fine to
 me.

I just checked that and another Velvet Underground album that wasn't
sorting properly and they both look good.  Thank you!

The only oddity I've noticed lately is micro-gaps between tracks on the
newish live Leonard Cohen album.  But I assume that's an issue with
Tidal since I've heard other albums play gaplessly.  In general, it
seems very stable.



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Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-02 Thread atrocity

I'm not sure if this is an ickStream bug, a Tidal limitation or just
something that needs to be lived with, but I thought I'd mention it in
case the behavior can be changed.

When playing tracks from Tidal, pausing or turning off the player (at
least for an extended period of time) results in the track not playing
all the way through once playback is restarted.  The song will continue
for a while, then at some point will jump to the next track before it's
finished.

My assumption is that the buffer stops filling once playback is halted
and does not continue for the current track when restarted.  Instead,
the next track begins buffering and as soon as the current track's data
is exhausted, the next track plays.

That aside, I've generally found Tidal via ickStream to be much more
stable and reliable than Rhapsody ever was for me.



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Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-11-16 Thread atrocity

It's working great for me, thanks!

My only complaint--and I wouldn't be surprised if the problem is on
Tidal's side--is that the track order for multi-disc sets can be pretty
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Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-11-14 Thread atrocity

pippin wrote: 
 There seems to be an issue - it's a bit embarrassing given the fact that
 we start with some lossless services - that LMS (and other UIs)
 sometimes show MP3 as the stream format with our streams even when the
 actual format is FLAC.

Thank you for mentioning that, it's actually what I came here to check. 
I don't claim my ears can tell the difference, but I was curious.  I did
suspect I was really getting FLAC because I used my go-to album (The
Dark Side of the Moon) to test for gapless playback and was very happy
to hear perfection!

Thank you for all your work!



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Re: [slim] Tidal Hi-Resolution Streams available on ickStream, soon for all Squeezebox users!

2014-11-03 Thread atrocity

cca651 wrote: 
 This is indeed great news - I signed up for the trial yesterday and the
 sound quality is very good (worth the price for me).  Can't wait to be
 able to stream via my Squeezebox devices!

I signed up for a 30 day trial yesterday myself.  I don't know if they
were just having problems or if the system is fundamentally flawed, but
in my testing I found that they take lack of gapless playback to an
extreme I've never heard before.  If that's really how it's going to be,
there's no way I'm paying.



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Re: [slim] Amazon Fire TV

2014-09-23 Thread atrocity

Apesbrain wrote: 
 Like you I also uninstalled it.  Its UI was very slow on my older Roku
 XS and the device only able to play MP3 which is the minority of my
 library.

I experimented with it over the weekend and also found the MP3-only
capability pointless.

Even odder, although it connected to my server without any issues at
all, it never showed in the web interface or any other controller as a
connected player.  This makes it impossible to control without having
the TV on and makes it impossible to configure for transcoding to MP3.

It's a real shame, too.  The Roku is inexpensive and seems to be stable.



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-15 Thread atrocity

paulster wrote: 
 I used to use MOG, and now I use Spotify, so I'm a paid streaming
 service customer. I do know that Rhapsody is a problem, but there are
 perfectly viable alternatives that work just fine.

That's very good to know, thank you!



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-13 Thread atrocity

paulster wrote: 
 I have a load of Logitech SB hardware, but I've taken it all out of
 service now.  All of my Squeezelite-powered units sync perfectly, play
 high-res audio, and do everything and more than the Logitech hardware
 that preceded them did.

Only issue I've had with unofficial hardware is an inability to play the
pay streaming services, or at least Rhapsody.  In my case, it's a minor
issue, but I could see it being a showstopper for others.



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-11 Thread atrocity

gb115b wrote: 
 wow, thanks!  not many squeezebox 3s on the uk ebay site sadly... and i
 wonder if i'm just putting off the inevitable (given that hardware and
 software are no longer readily available, maybe it's time to call it
 quits?).   it's a real shame what logitech did to slimdevices.

The software is under active development.  Logitech-manufactured
hardware is out of production, but there's no shortage of low-cost
alternatives that work great with LMS.



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-11 Thread atrocity

cliveb wrote: 
 For a useable multi-room streaming system, LMS remains a very sensible
 choice.

And as much as we all like to scratch our heads and wonder what Logitech
was thinking, I'm very grateful to them and to SlimDevices for getting
us to this point.

Given how much interest there still is in the system and how many of us
have concluded that there's still nothing better, it seems like it would
be pretty easy for Logitech to get back into the game if they ever
wanted to.

For some reason, this makes me think of Fiesta, a popular American line
of dinnerware that was pulled from production by its manufacturer. 
After a few years of watching prices for used pieces skyrocket, they
realized they were missing out and began making the stuff again.  Of
course, the salad plates didn't do such a great job of decoding FLAC...



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Re: [slim] Alternative to Touch

2014-09-08 Thread atrocity

bonze wrote: 
 Is there currently any other solution besides a 'tablet' for use as a
 display?

I have a monitor hooked up to a Wandboard.



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Re: [slim] Alternative to Touch

2014-09-05 Thread atrocity

StridingEdge wrote: 
 One particular question is - are there any GOOD devices, that people
 know of, that stream (both from internet and PC) and that combine a
 player that can handle CD, SACD, DVD-A, CD-R etc etc

You might want to look at the Oppo players.  They play all the disc
formats you mentioned and do some streaming.  As far as I know,
streaming from your own library still involves DLNA/UPNP with no gapless
playback, though you'd be able to stream multichannel FLAC.

They also stream from the Internet, though I'm not sure if you can just
tune in a URL like you can in Squeeze World.  Oppos are pre-loaded
with apps for Pandora, Netflix, etc...I haven't put any serious work
into investigating non-app options.

I bought my first Squeezebox in 2008 and have yet to see anything else
that comes close.



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Re: [slim] Alternative to Touch

2014-09-05 Thread atrocity

StridingEdge wrote: 
 Thanks for that. All my Flac files are stereo (I assume when you said
 multichannel you were referring to 5.1?) and that's all I want from
 that side of things. Do the Oppos handle that OK?

The Oppos will play 2.0 just fine.  But if your taste runs to opera or
prog rock or any other genre where a single piece of music spans
multiple tracks, you'll likely be annoyed by the lack of gapless
playback.  Though I dimly remember hearing that Oppo was working on
fixing that for directly attached storage (but not for files streamed
over the network).

The suggestion about small, cheap computers is also a good one.  $125
gets you a Wandboard that works just fine as both Squeeze server and
player.  There may be a slight learning curve involved in initially
writing the operating system to the MicroSD card, but once you've got it
up and running it's absurdly easy to keep updated.



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Re: [slim] The failure of CDs

2014-05-15 Thread atrocity

When Squeezebox mania got me to carefully rip thousands of CDs, the only
commercially pressed ones that were flat-out impossible to read were the
two discs in Monty Python's Final Ripoff.  They were victims of the
bronzing issue a British plant had for a while.  I had other discs
that were visibly bronzed, but none of them gave me any special
problems.

Having said that, to this day I encounter visually perfect pressed discs
with various levels of readability.  Sometimes they'll just zoom along
in one drive but re-read multiple sectors in others.  Sometimes no drive
will read them accurately (I'm looking at you, original Geffen issue of
Peter Gabriel's So!)  DualDiscs seem to be particularly troublesome on
the CD side.

I found CD-Rs to read pretty much as one might expect: The Mitsuis and
Taiyo Yudens were fine, the lesser brands were sometimes fine and
sometimes worthless.  My favorite is still the Memorex that was
completely destroyed when a Post-It note managed to peel off the
recording layer.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-03-28 Thread atrocity

rmac321 wrote: 
 Has anybody received a quad wandboard in the last month or more?  I've
 had a quad on order since Feb 14 from future electronics and they keep
 pushing back the expected delivery date.  I don't want to make waves
 with future if the problem is with wandboard...

I was backordered at AVNet for a month or more as well, though in theory
I now have one on the way.



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread atrocity

aubuti wrote: 
 1) Setting aside for the moment pippin's key observation that nobody
 buys iPods any more, that's the same price as a 64GB iPod touch, which
 has half the capacity and no option for swapping out microSD card.

The iPod also works with fewer formats.

I haven't seen the issue of gaplessness addressed yet.  One would hope
that will all the artists and technicians on board that won't be an
issue, but...



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Re: [slim] SB3 reboot loop -- hardware error?

2014-01-27 Thread atrocity

garym wrote: 
 you're not getting the crashing because you're playing Rhapsody or
 Napster thru the player are you?  That is causing players to crash, but
 is a Rhapsody/Napster issue, not the hardware of the player.  Just a
 thought.

Interesting...I tried to play Rhapsody on a Touch last night, only to
have it reboot.  I finally unplugged the player for a minute, plugged it
back in and queued up a couple local albums...at the transition between
one album and the next, it rebooted again!



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Re: [slim] Multichannel on future Squeezebox development?

2013-10-28 Thread atrocity

the nightfly wrote: 
 I know -- like anyone else frequenting these forums -- that Logitech
 stopped producing the Squeezebox line. I'm referring to developments
 such as Community Squeeze, players like SqueezeLite, and the like.

I have asked this before--most recently after learning that the
Wandboard can output audio via HDMI--and have received answers
indicating that the code is very much built around 2-channel audio in a
way that would be very difficult to alter.



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Re: [slim] Wandboard

2013-10-01 Thread atrocity

erland wrote: 
 Using the standard Wandboard together with the CommunitySqueeze hardware
 sounds like it's going to be excellent based on what the people who have
 tried it says, definitely superior to the Squeezebox Touch, but if you
 hear the difference or not depends on your amplifier, speakers and ears.

Erland, I know the Wandboard and CommunitySqueeze are not your projects,
I'm just choosing your post to hang my two questions on. :)

1. Has anyone tried a Wandboard + HDMI setup with DTS and/or AC-3?  I'm
curious if it's as bit-perfect as a Touch/SB3 and can be used with my
surround library.

2. Since the Wandboard can run its own server and has HDMI output, is
there any chance that in the future it will be possible to use it to
play multichannel FLAC?  That's literally the only feature I've ever
missed in a Squeezebox.



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Re: [slim] Wandboard

2013-10-01 Thread atrocity

Triode wrote: 
 Re 1: can't comment on having tested it but people have been running
 with an HDMI splitter to spdif with the wandboard - suggest posting on
 the linux forum on the CSOS thread.

Done, thank you.

Triode wrote: 
 Re 2: unlikely as the playback application (squeezelite) is 2 channel
 only.  I don't know a about the underlying hardware but we are only
 targeting 2 channel for playback from LMS.

I suppose since it boots from an easily-swapped MicroSD card, it would
be pretty easy to just boot into XBMC (or whatever) for multichannel.

Thanks again!



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Re: [slim] Wandboard

2013-10-01 Thread atrocity

JohnSwenson wrote: 
 #1 does work, I've tried it with DTS, as usual just make sure the volume
 is at 100%, no upsampling, no replay gain, no fade in etc.

Very good news indeed, thank you.  The need to get more reliable DTS
playback than I was getting from cheap CD-Rs and iffy disc spinners is
one of the things that first got me interested in the Squeezebox
universe.

JohnSwenson wrote: 
 #2, is probably never going to happen directly.

Well, I guess that's what XBMC is for.  In fact, since I don't actually
*need* another Squeezebox at the moment, maybe I should let the evil
voices in my head convince me to get a Wandboard just to see how it
works with XBMC.  If it gives me grief, I can always make it a backup
server.

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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform

2013-04-21 Thread atrocity

erland wrote: 
 Also, if there is anything special you have always wanted LMS/Squeezebox
 to do which it doesn't support yet, please let us know through this
 pre-announcement thread and we will consider if it's something that fits
 ickStream.

I've always wanted support for multichannel playback of multichannel
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Re: [slim] The Ultimate Data Storage Device

2013-02-02 Thread atrocity

adamdea wrote: 
 Isn't that cyberpunk? Wouldn't steampunk be more like storing your mp3s
 on wax cylinders?

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Re: [slim] audio fingerprint dupes?

2012-08-12 Thread atrocity

garym wrote: 
 I believe this question has been asked and I recall Spoon saying that
 the exact file would be returned upon restore.

Cool, thank you.



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Re: [slim] audio fingerprint dupes?

2012-08-08 Thread atrocity

MrSinatra wrote: 
 as seen here:
 
 http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?25788-PerfectTUNES
 
 i need to investigate how it determines dupes...
 
 thx Gary.

It took forever to scan my 78,000+ tracks and then declared many to be
dupes that are not.  For example, it can't distinguish between original
issues and remasters.

Makes me wonder if AudioSafe will not return the same file that was
uploaded...



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Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?

2012-05-03 Thread atrocity

The only thing I would love to see that isn't there now is the ability
to output lossless multichannel.



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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-04-14 Thread atrocity

I just got an iPad and installed SqueezePad.  I run two different
instances of LMS, and SqueezePad connected to the wrong when I first
ran it.  I didn't see an obvious way to switch servers, so I just shut
down the server I didn't want and restarted SqueezePad.  Now it's locked
in an endless loop of Connecting to SqueezeboxServer folowed by
SqueezeboxServer disconnected.

I'm guessing there's an easy fix that I'm just not seeing.

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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-04-14 Thread atrocity

atrocity wrote: 
 I just got an iPad and installed SqueezePad.  I run two different
 instances of LMS, and SqueezePad connected to the wrong when I first
 ran it.  I didn't see an obvious way to switch servers, so I just shut
 down the server I didn't want and restarted SqueezePad.  Now it's locked
 in an endless loop of Connecting to SqueezeboxServer folowed by
 SqueezeboxServer disconnected.
 
 I'm guessing there's an easy fix that I'm just not seeing.
 
 Thanks!

OK, I uninstalled and reinstalled SqueezePad while on the server I
wanted was running.  That server requires a login, so while SqueezePad
now sees it and tries to connect, it's locked in a different loop
because Authentication failed.  Unfortunately, it's not allowing me to
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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-04-14 Thread atrocity

bluegaspode wrote: 
 Hi atrocity, 
 
 just enter the settings screen of SqueezePad (tap the small button on
 the bottom right).
 Here you can select which server to use (via the 'Search' button) and
 also provide your server credentials.

Sigh...as I suspected, it was right in front of my face the entire time.
Thank you!

bluegaspode wrote: 
 PS: be aware that SBS requires passwords to be send in plaintext over
 the network. This is not really good security, you might find that not
 using credentials at all might make your life easier.

Thank you for the warning.  I tend to access that server remotely, so I
figure any authentication at all is better than none.  The user name and
password have no relation at all to anything I use anywhere else.

Thank you again!



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Re: [slim] Apple's ALAC now open source!

2011-10-28 Thread atrocity

erland;665802 Wrote: 
 Are there any advantages of using FLAC now when ALAC is open sourced ?

Last time I tested, stereo FLAC files were slightly smaller than their
FLAC counterparts...and mono FLAC files were a *lot* smaller.


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Re: [slim] Gapped playback? (playback with gaps between tracks)

2011-10-28 Thread atrocity

andyg;664493 Wrote: 
 I don't think I've ever heard of someone wanting gaps! You should listen
 to the music the way it was intended, and the same way it plays on a CD.
 :)

Is it gapless? is always my first question about any device...usually
the answer is no and I immediately lose interest.

But having said that...I do occasionally wish for the ability to
automatically insert a couple dead seconds between albums, especially
when playing them randomly.  My tastes are such that I'm perfectly
happy to go from Beethoven to the Sex Pistols, but not necessarily with
a hard splice.

I've thought of just creating a two-second or so silent track, but that
would only work when I'm personally and explicitly building the
playlist.


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Re: [slim] Not showing date and time when switched off

2011-09-18 Thread atrocity

 On the times I've seen this, it's because the brightness has been
 dropped to zero. I know you've checked, but try using the brightness
 button on a remote to change the brightness when the player is off.

Something else is definitely going on here.  As of yesterday, I run
7.6.1 on two different Ubuntu servers (long boring story why I need
two).  Everything works as expected with one server, connecting to the
other results in no time display when off no matter what I do.


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Re: [slim] DVD-Audio 5.1 on Touch

2011-08-16 Thread atrocity

gonk;650291 Wrote: 
 Best solution today is probably a Dune player for lossless multi-channel
 FLAC through HDMI.

Is it gapless?


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Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-04 Thread atrocity

pablolie;645956 Wrote: 
 Are all problems Windows and perhaps specifically Vista OS related?
 Things seem to run OK in Linux land, the usual quirk or two excepted
 here and there...

Ubuntu 11.04 here.  7.6.* doesn't work (OK with a small subset of
FLACs, won't scan my full library) and I lack the time and energy to
fight with it, so I'm happily using 7.5.5


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Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?

2011-07-24 Thread atrocity


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results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916

Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ?

- I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that
  works good ?
- I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost
  too much to switch
- I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to
  something else anytime soon
- I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to
  something else that supports this
- I would consider switching if someone offered something with
  similar functionality
- I have already started to look for something else but haven't found
  anything interesting yet
- I have already started or completed the transition to something
  else


I'm usually the first one to bitch about anything, but I agree with
every positive comment in this thread and have not experienced any of
the downsides some have.  I think the *only* issue I've ever had over
the years was the obnoxious network trouble in 7.5.3, and even that was
pretty minor.

Someone else used the phrase life changing and I have to agree.  I'm
52 and have been obsessed with recorded music and its playback
technology literally for as long as I can remember.

When people first started talking about music servers, my knee-jerk
reaction was Why bother?  I still think that the CD is an *excellent*
music delivery system and thought that people complaining about the
alleged inconvenience of discs were crazy.

But at some point in the high-speed Internet era I started downloading
lossless live concerts and, as an eMusic member, MP3s.  I also
discovered online radio, specifically Radio Paradise.  Integrating all
that stuff into a normal stereo was a pain.  I started out with a
Roku Soundbridge just because I liked having something like that for
Internet radio.  But I was never happy with its playback of my own
files (anything that isn't gapless is, as far as I'm concerned, crap)
and on a whim bought a Squeezebox.

Oh, boy.  At first it was just to let me mix and match Internet radio
with what I'd downloaded.  It was nice to be able to audition the
downloads before committing them to disc and *then* finding out there
was some fatal problem.  But it didn't take long before I started
thinking about putting my main collection of pressed CDs online and
once I started, I was unable to stop until I was finished.  It took me
fully a year and half to get it all done but now, as others have said,
I listen to my music more than I did for years beforehand.

I've probably got 2,500 or more CDs.  They're reasonably well
organized, but the physical reality of the layout of the house combined
with general clutter makes some of them difficult to get to.  Then
there's that whole thing where I know I have a copy of that song, but
what compilation CD is it on..?  None of that is an issue any more. 
And my normal collection integrates perfectly with my bootleg
collection and with Internet radio and with podcasts.  EVERYTHING is in
one place.

The ability to queue up any songs I want, re-arrange playlists on the
fly, add another track because something in what I'm listening to now
reminds me of it, etc. just makes it all even sweeter.

There are even obscure cases where playing something via the Squeezebox
works better than playing the disc.  I've collected a lot of DTS
conversions of old quadraphonic albums over the years, and my luck
getting CD-Rs to work reliably on disc spinners has been up and down. 
I no longer care: If I can get a clean read into the computer, I'm
set.

Then there's the whole thing about being able to get to my entire
library from any wi-fi equipped motel anywhere in the world...

The list just goes on and on and on.  Other than, I suppose, the amount
of time it took to set everything up, I can't think of a single negative
about this system at all.  No, I take that back: The one single lone
thing it can't do that I wish it could is output multichannel FLAC,
allowing me to get my DVD-As online.  Of course, that's probably a
fraction of a percent of my collection and I'm not losing any sleep
over it.

Another completely unexpected benefit is that it's gotten me a bit more
comfortable using Linux.  I started out with an XP server, but it was
just too overloaded and didn't work out so well.  I wound up buying a
very cheap box to run Linux and haven't looked back.


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Re: [slim] Anyone using WD TV HD media player?

2011-04-15 Thread atrocity

The WDTV boxes, like most non-Squeezebox devices, can't play music
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Re: [slim] SB release 7.5.3: Unreliable. Anyone else?

2011-03-03 Thread atrocity

Kuben72;615256 Wrote: 
 Has anyone tried to disable any plugins like Dynamic Playlist and SQL
 Playlist?

No, but:

My weekend routine for a while has been to use Dynamic Playlists with
Never Played Albums all night long.  Since 7.5.3, it's common for it
to work for a couple albums, then stop.  Usually it adds an album, but
then either just stops without playing it at all or only plays the last
track and gives up.

I use a separate instance of SBS for the weekend, so it's definitely
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Re: [slim] SB release 7.5.3: Unreliable. Anyone else?

2011-02-08 Thread atrocity

ModelCitizen;608969 Wrote: 
 
 Anyone else notice a degradation in reliability since 7.5.3?
 
 This on Windows 7.

I have one instance on native Ubuntu 10.04 and am seeing:

1. Squeezebox 3 looks fine...I turn it on and try to go to the library.
I immediately get the Can't connect to server... message.  It
eventually goes away and everything works fine, as far as I can tell. 
I have not noticed issues once music from my library is playing, but
I'm usually playing it while I fall asleep, so I could be missing
something.

2. Alarm doesn't work with a dynamic playlist, I just get the
beep-beep-beep backup.

3. Radio Paradise seems to go silent fairly frequently.

I have another instance running on Ubuntu 10.10 in VMware under Windows
7 and am seeing:

1. Same Can't connect... issue as above.

2. I use this instance almost exclusively to play never played albums
via dynamic playlists/custom skip.  I've twice had it add a new album to
the playlist, immediately jump to the last track and stop without adding
anything new.

I have not had a problem with either instance when I specifically
select and play an album or track...typing this while listening to a
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Re: [slim] Occasional long pauses during playback - mysqld.exe culprit?

2010-08-31 Thread atrocity

Martin_Edney;572995 Wrote: 
 So I'm starting to think that there may be a problem with my Trackstat
 plugin, or its data.  Whether this is what caused the original problem
 is not clear.  Any ideas please?

Try one of the newer betas that uses SQLite?  (Sorry, that's probably
not very helpful!)


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Re: [slim] Occasional long pauses during playback - mysqld.exe culprit?

2010-08-22 Thread atrocity

Martin_Edney;571110 Wrote: 
 Occasionally (once or twice every few hours) playback stops in the
 middle of a song, for something like 30 seconds to 1 minute or more,
 and then picks up again where it left off.

I've been having trouble with this as well, both with a dedicated
Ubuntu server and with a different server running virtualized Ubuntu
against the same library under Vista.  On weekends, I use Dynamic
Playlists, Custom Skip and TrackStat to play Never Played Albums all
night long with a fairly large list of genres to skip.  At several
points during the night I was having trouble with random pauses and,
more recently, trouble with an album playing, stopping at the end and
not moving on to another album.

For various reasons too boring to explain, I move some of my
directories around between two NASes, which of course screws up the
TrackStat data.  The new bit of fun where a new album wouldn't get
added to the list got me to suspect that this was part of the problem.

So yesterday I used the virtualized-under-Vista server as a test and
I:

1. Imported my TrackStat backup from the main Linux server (the one I
use most commonly).

2. Did a complete clear and rescan of the database

3. Went into TrackStat settings and selected Delete unused statistic,
which wipes out TrackStat data for files that no longer exist.

I never woke up to silence during the night and when I woke up for real
this morning I still had music...it's only been one night, so I can't
swear that I fixed the problem, but I *suspect* that my TrackStat data
was sufficiently out of touch with reality to cause a problem.  My last
trackstat backup file prior to the cleanup was 30,686,088 megabytes. 
The file that was created last night was down to 28,756,471 megabytes,
so a couple megs of obsolescence got dumped.

Of course, I could be completely insane and Erland doesn't know whether
to laugh or cry at my ignorance.


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Re: [slim] Volume Levelling

2009-12-06 Thread atrocity

aubuti;492633 Wrote: 
 Can foobar2k run under Wine?

Yes.


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Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!

2009-07-10 Thread atrocity

Andy8421;439367 Wrote: 
 If I were Logitech, I would be tempted to stick a 'squeezebox' sticker
 on the front of an HDX1000, and spend all the development $$ I had saved
 on excellent front end and server software to support it.

HDX 1000 uses the Networked Media Tank (NMT) middleware provided by
Syabas, which is a established middleware company.

I've got a Popcorn Hour, which is also using the Syabas
middleware...it's nice enough, but it's not particularly stable (I'm
using an older firmware, because the newer ones are even less stable),
can't play DTS FLACs and isn't gapless.  Reliability-wise, a Squeezebox
is 100 and a Popcorn Hour is 50.

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Re: [slim] Quick way to add a CD to library without rescanning

2009-06-05 Thread atrocity

toby10;429549 Wrote: 
 Create a folder within your music folder, usually people call this
 folder New Music.  Add the files or rip your CD to this folder.  These
 will be immediately available to you via SC7  Music Library  Music
 Folder
 
 No rescan needed using Music Folders but I think this method ignores
 TAGS and can only utilize simple file name structure (like accessing
 music files via My Computer  *folders*).

I just put the music in whatever folder I'd normally put it, then use
the Music Folder method you describe to browse to it.  It doesn't
exactly ignore tags, but it won't report the tag data in the pane where
you're browsing.  If you actually add the files to the playlist/queue,
you'll see that it's reading tag data.  It also adds those files to the
database, at least when running under Ubuntu.


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Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge

2009-04-26 Thread atrocity

autopilot;418171 Wrote: 
 The fact that the Soundbridge's had shocking poor build quality did not
 help. TBH though i think SC's continual improvement and vastly superior
 feature set helped.

I started with a Soundbridge because I was interested primarily in
Internet radio easily integrated with my main stereo.  I liked it so
much I bought another for the bedroom.

There's no question that the Squeezebox is a better product to begin
with and better supported on top of that, but at the time I started
doing all this stuff, there was a $100 price difference that wasn't
worth it to me when I was not yet interested in doing the Put your CDs
on the computer thing.

My Soundbridges were generally pretty stable (imperfect, but OK).  If
they'd reliably figured out gapless playback and didn't have the
DTS-killing feature of converting everything to 48kHz, I probably
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Re: [slim] Transporter: Ran out of decoder memory

2009-02-09 Thread atrocity

seanadams;394641 Wrote: 
 If anyone can advise the correct way to rip a DVD-A please chime in...

Ignoring any copy protection issues, I don't think it can be done in a
way that would make sense to a Squeezebox, Transporter or any receiver
to which one is connected.  WAV and FLAC won't work and I can't imagine
one of the players knowing what to do with an MLP stream.  I'd also be a
bit surprised if the average decoder would handle MLP or 5.1 PCM sent
via standard coax or optical, assuming it's even possible to do so.

Are there any non-computer-based components out there that know what to
do with a multichannel FLAC?  Might be interesting to see if such a
beast would ignore DVD-A watermarking.

Unfortunately, the correct way to rip a DVD-A remains to hope it also
has a DTS track or settle for AC-3 if it doesn't.


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Re: [slim] 2009- Important Year for Slim Devices Founders

2008-12-11 Thread atrocity

snarlydwarf;368716 Wrote: 
 Hurry and buy them all now, that silk screen does affect sound quality,
 even more so, than, well, a switch.

It's also worth noting that the devices were signed by a left-handed
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Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1

2008-10-29 Thread atrocity

pza;354162 Wrote: 
 Quite a few people seem to be irritated by the removal or MyRadio.  I
 filed it as a bug, but the only response I got was that the release
 notes would be updated to show that it has been removed.  No other
 explanation:
 
 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9805
 
 While you can add radio stations to Favorites, I think there should be
 somewhere to store a library of radio stations without cluttering up
 your favorites.

This really irritates me.  I finally looked into building an OPML
playlist of radio stations last week and was delighted by the ability
to set up hierarchies.  I spent quite a bit of time setting it all up,
but apparently that time was wasted.

Tried this morning to manually import myradio.opml, but it doesn't
stick.  Renaming the file to something else and importing it is also
not permanent.  For that matter, having been in a hurry at the time,
I'm not sure that even the impermanent file can be used to actually
bring up a station.

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Re: [slim] managing playlists

2008-10-27 Thread atrocity

snarlydwarf;353970 Wrote: 
 The only real Gotcha is that some programs make paths to files
 relative instead of absolute... which won't usually work.

All my playlists have relative paths.  As a result, the same playlist
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Re: [slim] Just curious: when/why did you get your first Slim/Logitech player?

2008-10-20 Thread atrocity

A couple years ago, I found out about the Roku Soundbridge and snagged
one.  I wasn't looking for a way to serve my own music, but for a way
to listen to Internet radio through the real stereo without having to
connect a computer.  I loved it so much that I bought another one just
for the bedroom.

After a while, I decided to try running its server software to play
back some of my live music downloads, most of which were (and still
are) FLAC.  I wasn't so impressed...sound quality was OK, but the lack
of true gapless playback really annoyed me.  It also bothered me that
the forced resampling to 48k destroyed DTS.  Still, I loved the little
boxes for the radio capability and still think that they're a good deal
if that's your primary focus.

After a while I heard about the Squeezebox and, when a friend asked
what he should get, I told him that I liked the Roku well enough, but
that it looked like the Squeezebox was better.  So he bought one and
began raving about it, which in turn got me to give in and buy
one...and then another.  I gave away one of the Rokus and still use the
other in another room.

The downside to the Squeezebox is that I suddenly got obsessed with
getting all of my live, rare stuff (CD-DA, FLAC, SHN) onto a server. 
So I had to spend big bucks for a NAS and am still working on getting
all the music onto it.  I'm also loading up a few normal (i.e.,
official/mainstream) CDs, but my collection has got to be in the 2,500
range, so I'm definitely not making the same effort to convert
everything.

I love that I can listen to downloads without all the annoyance and
unpleasant additional sounds or interrutions that can happen when
trying to listen through the computer.  I also appreciate that
SqueezeCenter runs nicely on a cheap Ubuntu box, so I can have my
Windows machine do all its normal Windowsy stupidity without
interrrupting the music.


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Re: [slim] Google Chrome new browser

2008-09-03 Thread atrocity

DoomWolf;336078 Wrote: 
 Interesting, I get a blank page when I try to open SC from Chrome
 installed on the same machine that SC is running, but it worked fine
 when opening it across the internet from Chrome installed at work.

My Squeezecenter is running under Ubuntu 8.04 and Chrome under Windows
XP.  When I request http://192.168.0.105:9000 (that is, only connecting
through my local network), I'm prompted for the name and password, which
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Re: [slim] Google Chrome new browser

2008-09-02 Thread atrocity

moot;335964 Wrote: 
 I just came here to post that Chrome is noticeably much faster for
 browsing SqueezeCenter.  Anyone who has complained about the speed of
 the SqueezeCenter UI (and are on Windows) should give it a go.

I just get a blank page, though I get the Classic interface just fine
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Re: [slim] WMA Lossless

2008-08-31 Thread atrocity

pfarrell;334441 Wrote: 
 But a NAS is designed to serve as a file storage, its limited by design
 and purpose. That some folks can get SqueezeCenter to run on some of
 them does not mean its a good general solution.
 
 The general solution, robust and inexpensive, is to use a cheap
 computer.

I like both: I run SqueezeCenter on a Linux box, but store the files on
a NAS so they're available everywhere on the network.


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Re: [slim] WMA Lossless

2008-08-31 Thread atrocity

Phil Leigh;334813 Wrote: 
 Wow - another blindingly sensible post! - yes that's what a NAS is
 designed to be...a file server, not an App Server.

The approach also allows the best of both worlds: I find that
SqueezeCenter runs infinitely better on an underpowered Linux box than
it did on my allegedly more powerful Windows box, but I'm far more
comfortable with the manipulation tools (ripping, tagging, etc.) on
Windows.


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Re: [slim] Goodbye SqueezeSlave! :-)

2008-08-25 Thread atrocity

maggior;332125 Wrote: 
 I would imagine he is referring to Hi-MD, which supported
 recording/playing uncompressed WAV files.

Yes, that's certainly a possibility.  I'd definitely want to test it
(somehow), though.  It'd be a waste to create full-sized WAV or FLAC
files that only contained what ATRAC left behind.

maggior;332125 Wrote: 
 It's a dead format at this point - Sony no longer makes them (perhaps
 they still make a professional model) and the discs are no longer
 manufactured.

Are you sure about that?  I think Sony is still making a single
expensive portable model...or maybe there's still some old stock out
there.  I haven't seen blank discs in stores in quite a while, but
they're easily mail-ordered.

maggior;332125 Wrote: 
 It was a great format, but it was too late to the game.

Even the first-generation models beat the pants off analog cassettes. 
I sure wish Sony had marketed it better.  When MD appeared, it was
infinitely easier to deal with than the extremely expensive and
extremely fussy computer equipment necessary to make CDs.  I loved
being able to archive vinyl by getting the levels right, letting
everything record, then going back and neatly topping and tailing and
creating track marks...but I never even knew that was possible until I
bought one of the damned things.  Sony just ran ads saying I can
record on a disc! and never said a word about how advanced the editing
capabilities were.


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Re: [slim] Goodbye SqueezeSlave! :-)

2008-08-25 Thread atrocity

peter;332369 Wrote: 
 Nah, they should've made PC mini disk drives from day one. Being able to
 
 play/read, write/record and copy on a PC would've been a huge thing
 back 
 then. Now, they were left behind by the CD which - eventually - did 
 allow that. Too afraid of 'piracy', of course
 

But remember that at the time the MD was introduced, you needed an
extremely expensive computer to properly do audio recording.  Heck, I
bought a new PC after having MD for a couple years and even it had a
tendency to drop a lot of samples when I tried to use it as a
recorder.

Not that I really mean to defend Sony here...they eventually did come
up with a PC MD drive, but of course they deliberately crippled it for
music use which, combined with its absurdly slow speed, made it largely
uninteresting to just about everyone.

I still find it less nerve-wracking to capture analog sources via a
standalone CD recorder, then copy the bits into the computer for
prettying up.


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Re: [slim] Goodbye SqueezeSlave! :-)

2008-08-24 Thread atrocity

DanielTheGreat;331924 Wrote: 
 When I'm ready to digitise my LP collection (those not available on CD),
 I can hook up a high-quality digitiser (an old unused MD recorder) to
 the turntable (part of the 'hi-fi' system upstairs) and feed its
 Toslink output down to the office PC for recording to the HDD.

Are you sure the MD unit will pass an uncompressed signal?  I think
it's likely that the signal present in the digital output will have
gone through ATRAC.

(This isn't a slap at MD, which I happily used for years myself and am
sorry to see obsoleted.)


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Re: [slim] Stop the bloatware madness!

2008-08-06 Thread atrocity

pfarrell;326488 Wrote: 
 This whole discussion is silly. A typical PC these days has 2GB. Bloat
 doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter is awfully broad.  It might not matter to a lot of
people who aren't trying to do a lot of things at the same time, but it
certainly matters to some of us.

I'm not criticizing SC at all, just going on a more generalized rant. 
I've just seen too much wildly, blatantly *stupid* code in my day to be
able to dismiss bloat that calmly.

I recently moved SC, Firefly (mt-daapd) and Apache off my Windows
machine onto a lower-powered Linux one.  The Windows machine now runs a
hell of a lot more reliably.  Is it because I was asking too much of it
or is it because stuff that *should* have played nicely together didn't
due to unreasonable demands?  I really don't know, but I think it's
worth thinking considering.


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Re: [slim] Should I upgrade to Squeezecenter 7.1 or not?

2008-08-05 Thread atrocity

cavediver;325856 Wrote: 
 I chose wav for my archive format because I don't care about storage
 space as I have a lot and can add as much more when I need it. Storage
 is not expensive.

If a FLAC file is 60% the size of a WAV file, your storage device is
doing 40% less work serving up FLACs than WAVs.  It doesn't seem a
stretch to assume that will have an effect on drive longevity.  Storage
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Re: [slim] Announcement: SqueezeCenter 7.1.0 Now Available

2008-07-29 Thread atrocity

Just upgraded via the normal Ubuntu 8.04 package and am up and running
and streaming Rhapsody at 192k.  Didn't work until I rebooted, but
that's minor.

Only quirk I've noticed so far: The volume control was set at 50% and
had gone back to being variable.  I used Setup to park it back at 100%
(lots of DTS!), but no big deal.


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Re: [slim] Time for Slim Devices to get partnering up and licensing?

2008-06-17 Thread atrocity

EFP;312922 Wrote: 
 terrestrial over the air already has high definition (video as well as
 audio) available.

But broadcast HDTV has nothing on the disc-based formats.  Broadcast
looks great until too much moves within the frame, at which point it
consistently breaks up into utter garbage.  And, while I have no
complaint with it, the accompanying audio is 5.1, but certainl not
high definition.

The HD in HD-Radio is Hybrid Digital, not High Definition. 
Oddly enough, I notice more compression artifacts during speech with
HD-Radio than I do with music.  Not sure why.  In my experience, if
reception is excellent, analog FM sounds better than its HD
counterpart.  But where reception is marginal, HD is pretty darned
sweet indeed.


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