RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8)
Greetings Jean: No, it is improving the guide. You can go ahead with your plan of action. Thank you -Dev From: Jean Weber Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 01:49 To: Vasudev Narayanan Cc: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8) Do you mean the Base Guide or the chapter in Getting Started? I do not want to delay the Getting Started Guide if the info in it is correct. Improvements can wait for the next book after this. Jean On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 17:18 Vasudev Narayanan mailto:vasudev.naraya...@aol.com> > wrote: Greetings Jean - I am planning to work on Base from 7th June. I will share with you about the planning. I believe we will need a brainstorming session to take it forward. Thank you -Dev -Original Message- From: Jean Weber mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com> > To: LibreOffice Documentation mailto:Documentation@global.libreoffice.org> > Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2021 9:48 am Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8) If anyone knows of changes in Base (or errors in the chapter) that need to be included, please speak up. Otherwise I will update the image on the title page, and references to LO version number (copyright page or anywhere else) and declare the chapter updated. Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8)
Do you mean the Base Guide or the chapter in Getting Started? I do not want to delay the Getting Started Guide if the info in it is correct. Improvements can wait for the next book after this. Jean On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 17:18 Vasudev Narayanan wrote: > Greetings Jean - I am planning to work on Base from 7th June. I will share > with you about the planning. I believe we will need a brainstorming session > to take it forward. > > Thank you > -Dev > > > -Original Message- > From: Jean Weber > To: LibreOffice Documentation > Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2021 9:48 am > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 > (chapter 8) > > If anyone knows of changes in Base (or errors in the chapter) that > need to be included, please speak up. > Otherwise I will update the image on the title page, and references to > LO version number (copyright page or anywhere else) and declare the > chapter updated. > Jean > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8)
Greetings Jean - I am planning to work on Base from 7th June. I will share with you about the planning. I believe we will need a brainstorming session to take it forward. Thank you-Dev -Original Message- From: Jean Weber To: LibreOffice Documentation Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2021 9:48 am Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8) If anyone knows of changes in Base (or errors in the chapter) that need to be included, please speak up. Otherwise I will update the image on the title page, and references to LO version number (copyright page or anywhere else) and declare the chapter updated. Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base 7.1 (chapter 8)
If anyone knows of changes in Base (or errors in the chapter) that need to be included, please speak up. Otherwise I will update the image on the title page, and references to LO version number (copyright page or anywhere else) and declare the chapter updated. Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hello Dan, I will do the second review of GS6408. Pulkit Krishna On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 5:25 AM Dan Lewis wrote: > I have completed my first review of this chapter. Given that there has > been a large amount of rewriting during the second review by Steve, it > needs one more review before being published. > > Dan > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I have completed my first review of this chapter. Given that there has been a large amount of rewriting during the second review by Steve, it needs one more review before being published. Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base (ch 5)
I have uploaded this to the Draft folder: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-5.0/getting-started-with-base/view Next I will be updating (if any is needed) Chapter 1 of the Base Guide Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] getting started with base database
Dear all, I´m in the process of translating the Getting Started with Base document to Dutch. It would help if I could have the database file (.odb) which is build in the document. Base throws errors at me which I do not understand, something to improve by the way! So I cannot continue making the screenshots, hence cannot complete the translation. Help is appreciated !! -- Luc Castermans mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] getting started with base database
Luc Castermans wrote: Dear all, I´m in the process of translating the Getting Started with Base document to Dutch. It would help if I could have the database file (.odb) which is build in the document. Base throws errors at me which I do not understand, something to improve by the way! So I cannot continue making the screenshots, hence cannot complete the translation. Help is appreciated !! http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft I have been using this database for the Getting Started with Base for both LibreOffice and AOO. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] getting started with base database
2012/6/10 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com: Luc Castermans wrote: Dear all, I´m in the process of translating the Getting Started with Base document to Dutch. It would help if I could have the database file (.odb) which is build in the document. Base throws errors at me which I do not understand, something to improve by the way! So I cannot continue making the screenshots, hence cannot complete the translation. Help is appreciated !! http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft I have been using this database for the Getting Started with Base for both LibreOffice and AOO. Thanks Dan! -- Luc Castermans mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I have made some minor formatting changes to the revised Getting Started with Base chapter (mainly fiddling with page breaks) and replaced the ODT and PDF files on the wiki with the revised files. The ODT is now also in the GS Published folder on ODFAuthors, and the various drafts are now in GS Old Drafts. Many thanks to Dan and Hazel for their work on this. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi :) You remind me of Mark Twain’s famous quote — “I didn’t have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.” Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 7/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 7 February, 2012, 0:49 Progress report: I have the Introducing Base down to 38 pages now excluding the Report section. It is 12.5 pages in length with many screenshots. I will be looking at Helen's suggestions on the Report section in the Getting Started with Base to get some hints as to how to keep my Report section much less verbose. Tomorrow has to many other things to do to work on this. Wednesday will be another day at this. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 13:41 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi :) Don't worry about the devs. As documentation is improving more people are getting interested in Base. Hopefully that might result in more devs getting interested/less-scared. Cor, on the Users Lists, keeps berating me for saying there are not many devs working on Base. I think Alex has said there seems to be a bottle-neck preventing new code and patches from getting accepted. Again, hopefully the lead taken by the documentation team will go some way to increasing the amount of interest amongst more experienced, knowledgeable and/or skilled devs. Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 6/2/12, Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 6 February, 2012, 23:44 2012/2/6 Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.com wrote: Spliting guides woule be DESASTROUS ... imagine someone trying to get help on a guide having to find the info they need on ANOTHER guide ... sorry this will not work, it is easier to have a step by step aproach and let those who need it jump to the sections they want. GS with BASE whould IMHO be related to the simple task of making a adress book (see BASE TUTORIAL by Mariano Casanova) Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. Base seems to be abandoned in the dev front also ... the bugs abound and the work is meek. The last GOOD news I saw about this component was that the drivers for serious DB like MySQL and PostgreSQL were being tuned to work with 3.5 ... it IS a shame. Rogerio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Additional update: I have cut down Introducing Base and rewrote the Report section. It is located here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-lo3.4/introducing-base-1/view . I'm going to look at Helen's cut down of the Getting Started with Base chapter. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 19:49 -0500, Dan Lewis wrote: Progress report: I have the Introducing Base down to 38 pages now excluding the Report section. It is 12.5 pages in length with many screenshots. I will be looking at Helen's suggestions on the Report section in the Getting Started with Base to get some hints as to how to keep my Report section much less verbose. Tomorrow has to many other things to do to work on this. Wednesday will be another day at this. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 13:41 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
More progress: I went through Hazel's cut down version of the Getting Started with Base Chapter. I have accepted most of the suggestions. This chapter has gone from 1.8MB to 1.3. My cutting down of the Introducing Base has taken it from 1.8MB to 1.1. I have decided that the GS chapter is not the place for the list boxes. So that is my next project: move that to chapter 3, Data Input and Removal, and replace a couple of screenshots. FYI, any SQL single or double quotes must be U+0027 and U+0022, respectively. Base will not recognize anything else. Now I will end my day, and let others read this in the morning. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 19:49 -0500, Dan Lewis wrote: Progress report: I have the Introducing Base down to 38 pages now excluding the Report section. It is 12.5 pages in length with many screenshots. I will be looking at Helen's suggestions on the Report section in the Getting Started with Base to get some hints as to how to keep my Report section much less verbose. Tomorrow has to many other things to do to work on this. Wednesday will be another day at this. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 13:41 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.com wrote: Spliting guides woule be DESASTROUS ... imagine someone trying to get help on a guide having to find the info they need on ANOTHER guide ... sorry this will not work, it is easier to have a step by step aproach and let those who need it jump to the sections they want. GS with BASE whould IMHO be related to the simple task of making a adress book (see BASE TUTORIAL by Mariano Casanova) Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf At least this is what we plan on translating next for BASE in Brazil Rogerio 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If the chapter
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 11:04 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 SNIP Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. SNIP 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Good! I will begin working on cutting down the Introducing Base chapter to day. That will give us both chapters as a beginning point. I will be looking at your work probably by midweek unless I finish my chapter sometime today. (Tuesday is an off day for me. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 13:41 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 11:04 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 SNIP Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. SNIP 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables
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Hi :) Sounds like a plan :) Good to see good work from Dan and Hazel (and Rogerio) there. Thanks and regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 6/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 6 February, 2012, 13:41 On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 11:04 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 SNIP Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. SNIP 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan
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2012/2/6 Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:04:08 -0200 Rogerio Luz Coelho luz.roge...@gmail.com wrote: Spliting guides woule be DESASTROUS ... imagine someone trying to get help on a guide having to find the info they need on ANOTHER guide ... sorry this will not work, it is easier to have a step by step aproach and let those who need it jump to the sections they want. GS with BASE whould IMHO be related to the simple task of making a adress book (see BASE TUTORIAL by Mariano Casanova) Yes, I think this would be the best approach if we were starting from scratch. Use one of the wizard's standard databases and show the creation of the table(s) and input form(s), a couple of simple queries and a simple report. Design from first principles would then be covered in the Base User Guide. But we are not starting from scratch. Dan has put a lot of work into this and I'm sure he doesn't want to see it wasted. Also it is high time we got *something* out. It seems that Base has always lagged behind the other modules where documentation is concerned. So cutting down the existing GS guide and moving the deleted sections elsewhere would seem to be the best option. I am going to try and produce a cut-down version and see if it will work. If I succeed, I will put it into the drafts folder for review. Base seems to be abandoned in the dev front also ... the bugs abound and the work is meek. The last GOOD news I saw about this component was that the drivers for serious DB like MySQL and PostgreSQL were being tuned to work with 3.5 ... it IS a shame. Rogerio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Progress report: I have the Introducing Base down to 38 pages now excluding the Report section. It is 12.5 pages in length with many screenshots. I will be looking at Helen's suggestions on the Report section in the Getting Started with Base to get some hints as to how to keep my Report section much less verbose. Tomorrow has to many other things to do to work on this. Wednesday will be another day at this. --Dan On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 13:41 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:10:43 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that would be a good solution too. I have put a cut-down version of the existing GS chapter in the feedback folder along with the edited full-length version, just for people to look at. It does no harm to provide alternatives! I would prefer to cut down Introducing Base and making it the Gettting Started with Base chapter. It could be reduced to using only a flat database with its single table created by the Tqble Wizard., a form, one or more queries, and one or more reports. Presently, the Getting Started chapter uses a relational database which is more involved than the flat database. That seems to make it a better candidate for the first chapter of the Base Guide. Even then it probably could use some cutting down as well. Hazel: the section that I sent you on copying a table from Calc should really be a part of chapter 5. So, if you have not done anything with this, don't. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If the chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide for Base would be great imo too. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 17:15 I have just uploaded this new version by Dan into the feedback folder. I am not too happy with it in its present form. It is well written and clearly explained, but I think it goes into too much depth for a GS chapter. It is also very long and will be even longer if we incorporate the additional section that Dan sent to me (I have not looked at this at all yet). Someone who looks at a Getting Started guide is basically asking: Can I use this program?. And that has two aspects: does it do something that I would find useful, and can I understand it enough to use it? After reading Dan's work, I am inclined to answer yes to the first and no to the second! And I know something about databases, having worked as an information scientist. I have therefore indicated two sections which I think ought to be transferred into the Base Guide proper. A big problem with Base is that you need to have a working database before you can do many of the things described in a user guide of any sort. And databases are not easy to design and create. I suggest tentatively that the input/output sections of the Base guide might refer back to the creation of this useful database in the Getting Started Guide. The user could then read up on how to create the database, before trying the more complex form and report design tasks that properly belong in the main guide. -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If the chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide for Base would be great imo too. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 17:15 I have just uploaded this new version by Dan into the feedback folder. I am not too happy with it in its present form. It is well written and clearly explained, but I think it goes into too much depth for a GS chapter. It is also very long and will be even longer if we incorporate the additional section that Dan sent to me (I have not looked at this at all yet). Someone who looks at a Getting Started guide is basically asking: Can I use this program?. And that has two aspects: does it do something that I would find useful, and can I understand it enough to use it? After reading Dan's work, I am inclined to answer yes to the first and no to the second! And I know something about databases, having worked as an information scientist. I have therefore indicated two sections which I think ought to be transferred into the Base Guide proper. A big problem with Base is that you need to have a working database before you can do many of the things described in a user guide of any sort. And databases are not easy to design and create. I suggest tentatively that the input/output sections of the Base guide might refer back to the creation of this useful database in the Getting Started Guide. The user could then read up on how to create the database, before trying the more complex form and report design tasks that properly belong in the main guide. -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help
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On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 17:15 +, Hazel Russman wrote: I have just uploaded this new version by Dan into the feedback folder. I am not too happy with it in its present form. It is well written and clearly explained, but I think it goes into too much depth for a GS chapter. It is also very long and will be even longer if we incorporate the additional section that Dan sent to me (I have not looked at this at all yet). Someone who looks at a Getting Started guide is basically asking: Can I use this program?. And that has two aspects: does it do something that I would find useful, and can I understand it enough to use it? After reading Dan's work, I am inclined to answer yes to the first and no to the second! And I know something about databases, having worked as an information scientist. I have therefore indicated two sections which I think ought to be transferred into the Base Guide proper. A big problem with Base is that you need to have a working database before you can do many of the things described in a user guide of any sort. And databases are not easy to design and create. I suggest tentatively that the input/output sections of the Base guide might refer back to the creation of this useful database in the Getting Started Guide. The user could then read up on how to create the database, before trying the more complex form and report design tasks that properly belong in the main guide. -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Seems like I forgot to upload some files. I had already uploaded the database files for GS with Base, Introducing Base, and the one for chapters 2-4. I forgot about doing the same for LO. So, I have remedied this. All three databases are uploaded into their proper LO draft folders. Your input is very helpful. Thanks! --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If the chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide for Base would be great imo too. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Spliting guides woule be DESASTROUS ... imagine someone trying to get help on a guide having to find the info they need on ANOTHER guide ... sorry this will not work, it is easier to have a step by step aproach and let those who need it jump to the sections they want. GS with BASE whould IMHO be related to the simple task of making a adress book (see BASE TUTORIAL by Mariano Casanova) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf At least this is what we plan on translating next for BASE in Brazil Rogerio 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the advanced. Just some of my thoughts. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something solid and out there (released and published on Lulu) before we can really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be easier for someone afterwards? Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got a round to doing: 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the basics of what to do. b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a database and how to turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a flat database and a more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the principles.) c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of the tables and forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting tables. d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, views, and reports. --Dan On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I used to think that Base might need 2 Getting Started guides. 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine maintenance 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced maintenance. Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is done. Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If the chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide for Base would be great imo too. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
No attachments onlist, use a outside folder (dropbox) or put ir on the wiki and link it to us Rogerio 2012/2/2 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Helen: Would you do me a favor and proofread the attached document also. It belongs in the Gettting Started with Base Chapter just before Creating Tables with Design View page 11. (It should follow the section, Creating a table by copying an existing table ) I am sending a CC to you with the attachment so you will get it. The email to the list lets you know it is coming from me. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 16:55 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- --- Hazel Russman -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I understand that this mailing list strips all attachments. I also know that if I send an email to this list with a CC to the individual, the list will contain only my message while the individual will receive both. Please reread the second paragraph as to the purpose of the email with its CC. --Dan On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 22:52 -0200, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: No attachments onlist, use a outside folder (dropbox) or put ir on the wiki and link it to us Rogerio 2012/2/2 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Helen: Would you do me a favor and proofread the attached document also. It belongs in the Gettting Started with Base Chapter just before Creating Tables with Design View page 11. (It should follow the section, Creating a table by copying an existing table ) I am sending a CC to you with the attachment so you will get it. The email to the list lets you know it is coming from me. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 16:55 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- --- Hazel Russman -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I give this information for future searches on the list archives ... no sweat, sorry if it felt like a correction :) R. 2012/2/3 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com I understand that this mailing list strips all attachments. I also know that if I send an email to this list with a CC to the individual, the list will contain only my message while the individual will receive both. Please reread the second paragraph as to the purpose of the email with its CC. --Dan On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 22:52 -0200, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: No attachments onlist, use a outside folder (dropbox) or put ir on the wiki and link it to us Rogerio 2012/2/2 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Helen: Would you do me a favor and proofread the attached document also. It belongs in the Gettting Started with Base Chapter just before Creating Tables with Design View page 11. (It should follow the section, Creating a table by copying an existing table ) I am sending a CC to you with the attachment so you will get it. The email to the list lets you know it is coming from me. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 16:55 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- --- Hazel Russman -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Location of the Getting Started with Base chapter: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo3.4/getting-started-with-base/view . The ODFAuthors web site has a section for LO and OOo. I have some chapters in both of these two sections. I have changed my mind about uploading chapters 3 and 4 to the LO section of the ODFAuthors web site. Instead I recommend that people be directed to http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft for the draft copies of these chapters. While they are written for OOo, they will work with LO until we can get the chapters written for LO. This link to these two chapters can be used by anyone to download a copy. The chapter names are Data Input and Removal, and Data Output respectively. These names should be used along with the link so he people will know what to look for. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 13:57 +, Hazel Russman wrote: I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 15:13 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) Yes, I'm registered at the LO Wiki, so I can upload the file when you finish your editing and I look over it. --Dan --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Hi :) Perhaps it is just to make it more familiar to people that were using Alfresco? It might make it easier to move back maybe? I really don't know and am just clutching at straws here. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 16:55 On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Hazel Russman -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
Helen: Would you do me a favor and proofread the attached document also. It belongs in the Gettting Started with Base Chapter just before Creating Tables with Design View page 11. (It should follow the section, Creating a table by copying an existing table ) I am sending a CC to you with the attachment so you will get it. The email to the list lets you know it is coming from me. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 16:55 +, Hazel Russman wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:13:14 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: OK, I've checked this one out and downloaded it. I'll put it in the feedback folder when I've finished. Have they changed the way things are done on this site? You used to retract things, not check them out. Hi Hazel :) If you can proof-read them at ODFAuthors site then we can worry about uploading to the wiki later. I think Dan can upload to the LO wiki. It is a different one from the OOo one. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:57 I can download them from the ODF site if Dan puts them in the drafts folder. I don't think I'm registered on the LO wiki. I was registered on wiki.services.openoffice.org but I assume LO has its own wiki site. On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:47 + (GMT) Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Are you happy enough with them to put them on the wiki as drafts, like we did with chapter 2? I don't know enough about using Base nor about the ODFAuthors site to proof-read. Hazel? Any chance of proof-reading any of them? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 13:23 I also have preliminary copies of chapters 3 and 4 of the Base Guide. I hope to have them uploaded in the ODFAuthors web site with the first two chapters. --Dan On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:15 +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think these chapters are really helping people on the Users List. We are getting far more questions about Base now and more of those are new to databases generally. Being able to point at documentation helps but a lot of the questions are amore advanced than those 2 chapters deal with. Hopefully more interest in Base will lead to more devs working on it. So, keep up the good work it is much appreciated! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 3:30 The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- --- Hazel Russman -- Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
The Report section has been rewritten to include the basics for using the Report Builder extension. It is now in the Draft folder of the Getting Started Guide folder. Along with it is a zip file of the screenshots that I replaced throughout the chapter. The replaced screenshots were probably taken before we went to the XP silver theme. Now if I could only get Chapter 2 of the Base Guide done before Jean arrives back from the frozen south ... I just might make it. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base chapter updated
I made some minor formatting changes in this chapter (Ch8 of Getting Started book). The changes were the type that don't show up in change tracking. For example, the indentation of some second-level bullets was wrong. I've replaced the chapter on the wiki, but didn't know whether I should, or could, replace it on the libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ page. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
