Is it possible to practice a bit of kindness?
In a message dated 1/22/99 8:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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whether they condemn murder, torture, or enslavement in the human realm.
Trust me on this one; none of us do.
Curious Freudian slip.
In a message dated 1/22/99 8:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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meat consumption entail that we are torturers, murderers, sadists, Nazis,
slavemasters or any of the other epithets you so blithely toss around. Get
used to it; it's a fact.
If your meat consumption is
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In a message dated 1/22/99 8:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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meat consumption entail that we are torturers, murderers, sadists, Nazis,
slavemasters or any of the other epithets you so blithely toss around. Get
used to it; it's a
I'M SURE MANY OF YOU WATCHED THE RECENT TAPING OF THE OPRAH
WINFREY SHOW WHERE HER GUEST WAS TOMMY HILFIGER. ON THE SHOW SHE ASKED HIM IF
THE STATEMENTS ABOUT RACE HE WAS ACCUSED OF SAYING WERE TRUE.
STATEMENTS LIKE:
"IF HE'D KNOWN AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HISPANICS AND ASIANS WOULD BUY HIS CLOTHES
I didn't see this Oprah show but I'll support this boycott, I need to know which
brands are made by this man and his company... not that I can afford clothes made
for upper class anybody, but I can spread the word to those who can. In
conjunction with keeping an eye on Dick Butler's operations
Donna,
I checked out the link you provided and what I found interesting was that
many of the links given on that page had familiar servers such as geocities
and concentric. I know freedom of speech protects such groups as the KKK,
and geocities and other servers, ISPs, make money from a KKK
Kimberly,
I wish the same. Freedom of speech, the first amendment and screaming 'Fire!'
in a crowded theater... if there are written, enforceable laws (and there are
many) that for example... consider murder a crime, blatent racist hate crimes
illegal... how can white supremicists openly call
Hi Ecofem,
Logic and current events would suggest an avoidance of corporate processed meat
products in the interim of our veggie debate.
1/23/99
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Thorn Apple Valley is recalling all hot dogs and lunch
combinations produced at its Forrest City, Arkansas, meat processing plant
Ya just have to love this internet thing. The hilfiger incident is a
hoax/rumor/smear/thing. see the listed url for more information.
http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/todays_stories/970327/3_27_97_3oprah_content.ht
ml
also check out urban legend pages on this one
don't believe everything you hear
Joe,
This debate is not whether or not animals are people. Those of us involved are
aware that animals are not people. However, people are not the only ones who
feel pain and have feelings. The relevance of this to this debate is whether
or not it is ethical to inflict pain and suffering on
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:43:37 EST, you wrote:
Joe,
This debate is not whether or not animals are people. Those of us involved are
aware that animals are not people. However, people are not the only ones who
feel pain and have feelings. The relevance of this to this debate is whether
or
In a message dated 1/23/99 3:39:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Pity the pet he treats with the same supercilious contempt he has
repeatedly demonstrated towards some of the people on this list.
Are you trying to draw conclusions about my behavior towards animals
Thanks for this info Donna
Kimberly
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From: Donna Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: the veggie debate -- meat recall
Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 12:28 PM
Hi Ecofem,
Logic and current events would suggest an
In a message dated 1/23/99 7:36:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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treat them as i would treat any other person..
So you engage in debates with them?
Guess what? I don't engage in debates with all persons!! Because not all
persons are interested in them! And I didn't
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:20:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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(2) Animals are better than people
What a bunch of horse manure! I have never said this! I couldn't have, as I
have stated that humans ARE animals! So obviously you are having an argument
with someone
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:23:19 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 7:17:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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deny such differences
It makes all the difference in the world how you construe such differences,
and the weight you put upon such differences.
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:01:44 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 1:54:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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The moment he stops insisting that people who eat meat would enslave,
torture and murder other people, I will stop maintaining otherwise.
I've never said
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:58:00 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 7:39:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Go back and read the existentialists and the phenomenologists, and meditate
on the significance of self-consciousness, which is what makes all of "this"
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:25:41 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:20:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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(2) Animals are better than people
What a bunch of horse manure! I have never said this! I couldn't have, as I
have stated that humans ARE animals! So
And why buy clothing with advertising on it? Pay the producer to advertise for
them?! AAIIEE! Crazy!
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:24:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Which of these logical rules do you consider an impediment to clear
thinking?
I'm not going to get into it with you over the pedantic institution known as
"Logic", that police officer of thought. If you
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:26:21 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:20:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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you resort to belittling it
and you resort to hubris and human arrogance.
I'm the arrogant one? When you're the one comparing meat-eating humans (we
Hate to say it, guys,
but this debate has taken on all the characteristics of an undergraduate
philosophy course, in which "scoring a point" and "proving" that others are
being illogical is the boring game at hand.
I personally agree with Unleesh that factory farming is an absolute
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:34:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Weren't you the one who just disparaged all humanity by, among other
things, bringing up two world wars?
This is not a disparagement of "all humanity". "All" of humanity did not
participate in these world
Earth Proclamation Prayer
WE ARE ONE PEOPLE...
WE SHARE ONE PLANET...
WE HAVE ONE COMMON DREAM...
WE WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE...
WE CHOOSE TO PROTECT AND HEAL THE EARTH...
WE CHERISH THE EARTH'S BIO AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY...
WE WILL CHOOSE TO CREATE A BETTER WORLD FOR ALL...
WE WILL BECOME
Anyone who has read my posts on Poogie and Fuzzydog could not in all good conscience
doubt my compassion for animals. However, such a compassion would not necessarily
generalize to the way one treats other people, if (un)leesh is any example. Pity the
pet he treats with the same supercilious
Accommodations for disabled are seldom and virtually always inadequately made
everywhere, in or out of natural environs. It is the able-bodied who decimate
our parks. If the same restrictions faced by the disabled were levied through
legislation (the barring of mobility within parks, etc.) our
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:07:42 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 3:39:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Pity the pet he treats with the same supercilious contempt he has
repeatedly demonstrated towards some of the people on this list.
Are you trying to draw
In a message dated 1/23/99 12:03:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE
Keep Brainwashing Yourself, Keep Brainwashing Yourself, Keep Brainwashing
Yourself
all of this is curious because of course
PEOPLE ARE
The Global Peace Walk, Pathway to Global Peace Zone 2000
By Rev. Yusen Yamato, January 18, 1999, Martin Luther King Birthday Holiday
We are concerned about our future. We are concerned about our human life.
Living on the Globe with All my friends.
On October 10th, 1993, I was invited to join
At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:17:00 EST, you wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/99 7:00:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Logical Fallacy Alert!
All birds can be animals without all animals being birds, and all humans can
be mammals without all mammals being human.
In a message dated 1/23/99 12:03:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE ANIMALS AREN'T PEOPLE
Keep Brainwashing Yourself, Keep Brainwashing Yourself, Keep
In a message dated 1/23/99 1:54:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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The moment he stops insisting that people who eat meat would enslave,
torture and murder other people, I will stop maintaining otherwise.
I've never said that humanimals who eat nonhumanimals are inclined
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:20:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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One cannot read Maurice Merleau-Ponty, Aron Gurwitsch or Jean Piaget and
still honestly maintain this.
Of course one can! And I do!
In a message dated 1/23/99 8:39:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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I'm the arrogant one? When you're the one comparing meat-eating humans (we
are, after all, natural omnivores) to Nazi fellow-travelers? Physician, Heal
Thy Self!
Ok, if you use a lampshade made out of the
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