There is a discussion going on concerning this subject at
http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/time-to-put-andrew-brown-to-pasture/
Is there uniform agreement on this subject, or are there any who question the
concept in any way?
WT
Ecolog:
While I make no judgment concerning the original message which stimulated my
question, I will appreciate any comments regarding the meaning of
sustainability with respect to ecosystems and ornamentals and
landscaping (which often translates into replacing ecosystems with
assemblages
luxury consumption conditions.
WT
- Original Message -
From: Martin Meiss
To: Wayne Tyson
Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology and Sustainability Re: [ECOLOG-L] Sustainable
Landscapes Seminar 10/27
Rhodes
To: Wayne Tyson
Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology and Sustainability Re: [ECOLOG-L] Sustainable
Landscapes Seminar 10/27 at Morton Arboretum (Lisle, IL)
Hey Wayne
I would disagree that ecosystems are inherently
David et Ecolog:
The fabric mats I've seen lately are herp traps--except for old-fashioned
jute and similar highly flexible material; take care to apply the mats
loosely enough to allow for shrinkage, creep, etc. You need to make sure the
site is good sedge habitat; else it will be a waste of
Ecolog:
Here is an example of such behavior. I'll appreciate comments and references.
On August 15, the Santo Tomás came to a medium-sized island they called La
Asunción, after the Ascension of the Virgin Mary. Nubbled with sand and
gravel, the island looked made of plaster. The patina, it
approach to the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
Greetings
Francesca
From: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology and Sustainability Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Sustainable
Ecolog:
Thanks to all for their on- and off-list responses.
Please note that the initial post was a quote with a link to the source.
That makes it an anecdote, which can be believed or disbelieved. Skepticism
is always warranted, both in terms of whether or not the observations were
correct,
Honorable Forum:
A search on-line for precisely ecocentric on November 9, 2011 results in
precisely THREE hits. ALL three are from ONE paper, A Manifesto for Earth
('Biodiversity' Volume 5, No. 1, pages 3 to 9, January/March 2004)
http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/EarthManifesto.html .
Can
Matt, et y'all:
While Chew is too polite to openly suggest it, it is apparent that I screwed
up big-time here; I jumped to conclusions and simply didn't search for the
paper by title before going off half-cocked. I appreciate Chew's time in
investigating, however, and apologize for the error.
Matt an' y'all:
Any question should, as Einstein might put it, be as simple as possible,
but no simpler, and any answer should be similarly elegant in its
simplicity and brevity.
That doesn't make them easy to think up, but then that's the whole point of
intellectual enquiry, of science,
Ecolog and Liane:
Liane's definition is good enough for me, but I do confess, with respect to
similar definitions, that I prefer interactions to relationships even
while not selling relationships short. That is, I like both terms, even as I
am at pains to define them. I have no real quarrel
Ecolog and UT:
What is the ratio of water to plant biomass/energy and (how) does that
change significantly with species/genes?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Christine V. Hawkes chaw...@mail.utexas.edu
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:17 PM
Subject:
Ecolog:
What are the uses of cover data, from the most common applications to the
most sublime and rare?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Liz Pryde elizabethpr...@gmail.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Transformation
Rachel and Ecolog,
When one tries to look beyond the origins of religion, especially the major
ones which remain dominant today, one can even find signs that religion
could be rooted firmly in some original ecology, back when social units
resisted the original insults that culture imposed
Ecolog:
Offered herewith, for your careful consideration, I submit the following
Dirty Dozen. I invite criticism, additions, and deletions based on sound
thinking and facts.
1. Climate changes, with or without anthropogenic influences.
2. Anthropogenic factors influence climate change.
3.
Backus and Ecolog:
Likely is more likely than absolutely. Significant action may not be
enough to produce significant results; thus the resources expended for the
significant action might have then been better spent on alternatives that
had a greater probability of achieving significant
EB and Ecolog:
Burnett makes a good point. We might do better to stop fiddling with the
trees and take care of the forest. Why should CO2 carry the entire weight of
making the earth fitter for us and our companion organisms? CO2 and global
warming might have a certain utility for stimulating
Chris and Ecolog:
I believe that intellectual intercourse should be based on love of knowledge
and freely sharing; hence that money should not change hands as a condition
of any such acts. This is a primary reason why I regret the trend toward
making profit centers out of the exchange of
JC and Ecolog:
Coffin et al make some good points; it remains to be seen whether or not
replies will be responsive to them.
I'm a bit rushed this morning, so will have to be brief (thank your lucky
stars!). With respect to scary, maybe it should be, maybe not. It all
depends upon where the
See: http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/issues/view.php?sf=68
Comment on how biofuels produce more energy at the point of use than required
for their production.
Comment on the effects of biofuel plantations on ecosystems.
WT
Ecolog:
This post prompts me to ask y'all to clear up this question for me.
Certainly there is historical justification for giving groups which have
suffered the slings an arrows of outrageous prejudice, and any reasonable
person will welcome the day when all such outrages are no longer
Ecolog:
What IS drought tolerance?
What evidence is there that plants can manufacture more biomass/crop yield
on less water rather than to evade water deficits by continuing to survive
by reducing biomass production?
WT
- Original Message -
From: David Inouye ino...@umd.edu
To:
public image do affect the future of the discipline, not
to mention law and politics. Ugh!
WT
- Original Message -
From: mcnee...@cox.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU; Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ethics Ethical
will excuse the
expression, arrest further development down some yellow brick road.
WT
- Original Message -
From: as...@bio.miami.edu
To: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought
less plausible than other manipulations that have been carried
out in the past that have resulted in increased yields?
Martin M. Meiss
2011/12/20 Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Yes, the issue of wetland plants is an interesting one, if not directly
relevant to drought tolerance and productive
to
photosynthesis using the stored carbon. It's a neat trick and apparently
has evolved more than once because the molecular details differ in
different taxa.
Martin M. Meiss
2011/12/19 Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Ecolog:
What IS drought tolerance?
What evidence is there that plants can manufacture more
-
greater drought tolerance (i.e., less wilting, longer survival time between
rains, etc.)
Is this any less plausible than other manipulations that have been carried
out in the past that have resulted in increased yields?
Martin M. Meiss
2011/12/20 Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Yes, the issue
Frankly, I don't think it makes much difference either, but I don't claim to
be able to explain it. I just have my doubts about assumptions that
drought-tolerant plants (including C4's and CAM's) are able to produce more
biomass with less water than non-drought-tolerant plants (say, C3's). I'm
Ecolog:
Additional responses to Merran:
I very much appreciate Merran's thoughtful response. I have made similar
observations, but I do not know of any studies which have settled this
matter. I remain open to enlightenment.
I will attempt to do justice to Merran's contributions, but am
not utilized for agriculture. This seems like a separate
issue to me and one that deserves its own thread.
Phil Ganter
Biological Sciences
Tennessee State University
On 12/21/11 12:42 AM, Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
Ecolog:
Additional responses to Merran:
I very much appreciate Merran's
Ramjohn will do until the physiological ecologist comes along.
I wonder how creosote would stack up against other plants for biomass?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Ian Ramjohn ramjo...@msu.edu
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:08 AM
Subject: Re:
Ecolog:
Can some ecologist out there, not connected to the organization, tell me
anything about the relationship of Permaculture to ecology?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Common Circle Education vladis...@commoncircle.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Thursday, December 22,
Ecolog and Heckscher:
Yes, it is a shame that baseline data of all kinds, so essential to any
higher-order understanding of ecological processes, is shunned by armchair
(and office-chair) ecologists for any number of reasons, but there is a
yet more important baseline that goes yet more
We need a LESS PATRONIZING approach to lay people by scientists, not a
more patronizing one. And an academic system that promotes learning and
understanding, rather than retarding it. The firewall approach retards
learning and understanding, the very thing we want to promote.
Even as a
Honorable Forum:
It used to be $15, if I recall correctly; it appears they've jacked it up
recently, by 33.33 percent, if my arithmetic is correct--what does that
reflect, in policy and business terms? Judging by the deafening silence
elicited from previous posts, they are not likely to
Honorable Forum:
From
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/opinion/research-bought-then-paid-for.html?_r=1
Researchers should cut off commercial journals' supply of papers by
publishing exclusively in one of the many open-access journals that are
perfectly capable of managing peer review . . .
we own up to it or
not, that is what is being proposed.
mcneely
Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
Honorable Forum:
From
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/opinion/research-bought-then-paid-for.html?_r=1
Researchers should cut off commercial journals' supply of papers by
publishing
Nice, indeed!
It will take some time, but sooner or later, such dinosaurs will go the
way of the dodo.
To grease the plank, stop sending them papers and stop respecting those who
do.That will help dissolve the illusion that they are prestigious
publishers.
Their day is done, and their
While this theme is hot, I'd appreciate any ideas on the best set-up for an
integrated system that includes alternatives that include GPS, map data
(preferably USGS quads or equivalent), and software that permits quick and
easy (one-click) entry of coordinates for different kinds of data
Jason and all:
Answering questions like this one should be a cornerstone of the discipline
of ecology, but all that has been done (based on my limited knowledge) thus
far is to conjecture on the basis of thin evidence, most of it lacking
integration and characterized by looking backwards.
I
Ecolog:
Can anyone suggest research papers that have correctly calculated the water
to biomass and/or crop yield ratio differences under different experimental
regimes?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Zhanbei Liang lzbei...@gmail.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Tuesday,
Many thanks to Duffy for this reference.
While I have not yet read the paper, the well-written abstract of adequate yet
reasonable length (unlike those which have recently come into vogue which give
no hint of the substance--I wonder if the increasingly rapacious academic
publishers demand
Here's the kind of job Ryan Metz and others in similar situations could
apply for. It's similar to the kind of job I took at a 50% cut in pay for in
1959. Even though it's a summer job, note that it could be extended beyond
September. That's what I did for three years--until the snow got too
Ecolog:
I'm glad to see this point made: Oak seedlings produce a long and sturdy
tap root that must be carefully managed to produce a seedling that can be
transplanted. Call a nursery manager for the straight practical
information.
In my limited work with western species, I ended up
Ecolog:
This post brought into to focus (kinda) something that has been chawing at
the back of my mind for some time: Why all the hyphenated ecology? Does this
help or hurt ecology? Is Systems Biology a response to this phenomenon? Is
this a new (and better way?) of saying ecology? How many
Ecolog:
[Note: I, for one, like this way of responding to initial posts, with the
original subject-line and the string of subsequent comments preserved, rather
than individual responses to the initial post. I know it is not possible for
this to remain uniform, because some will post before one
for this thread, but I am
curious to hear what those with more experience than I think.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
Ecolog:
[Note: I, for one, like this way of responding to initial posts, with the
original subject-line and the string of subsequent
ecosystem health on a large enough
scale to have effects on many aspects of global systems. WT]]
[[
mcneely
Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
Honorable Forum:
Rose's additions and clarifications are illuminating. My concerns too are
general--related to principle--not specific
Ecolog:
Methinks the battles over semantics in ecology be oft over-strained, and
thus serve to distract the issues concerned rather than increase
understanding and bring clarity. We all might benefit from a reduced
fascination with our mirrors and a reduction in king-of-the-mountain games.
Ecolog:
I would appreciate hearing from anyone concerning this subject. I believe that
cave ecosystems may be worthy of consideration by all ecologists. They are
highly simplified and contained, thus their study might reveal some principles
that the study of more complex systems might not
Rather than squinting at a tiny screen, I haven't found anything better than
a bunch of (3 x 5) cards and a big, big surface like a huge conference table
or a wall. Cheap too. But then you do have to enter the data, and yes, the
card system does seem to have limitations. So?
WT
-
Ecolog:
I have only a vague impression of what ecosytem services is/are. Can anyone
clarify the meaning for me and tell me what ecosystem services are and are
not and what ecosystem services means in the context of this conference
(for example)?
Thanks to all,
WT
- Original Message
Y'all:
Since I grew up deep in the Post-Oak Timber Belt of Texas, I probably have
everything wrong, as my knowledge is in the folk category.
My great-grandfather moved to Texas after the Civil War, and I took out the
bob-wahr that he had stapled to post-oaks before the turn of the century
Honorable Forum:
Anybody who has any sense knows that words are imperfect, and anybody who
has read Alice in Wonderland (or was it Through the Looking Glass? I
just don't remember) knows that a word means just what I (or the Red
Queen?) say it means. Words are communication tools, and for
PM, Wayne Tyson wrote:
Ecolog:
Resetarits makes some excellent points.
While I quite understand the resistance to using such terms as
squishy, I was trying to make a between-the-lines point: The term needs
to
match the phenomenon.
Any term should meet the test of relevance and clarity
Ecolog:
Some range-managers and others seem to like this term. What does it mean and
not mean? Do most ecologists believe that type-conversion is a legitimate term
for ecology?
WT
you. And
even then, the media will simply what you say, and the THOSE words
will be used to discredit you.
Quoting Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net:
Honorable Forum:
Anybody who has any sense knows that words are imperfect, and anybody
who has read Alice in Wonderland (or was it Through
All of this discussion is mostly heartening, but a certain amount (far less
that I expected--that's a good example of why I like to be found wrong) of
self-righteousness has inevitably leaked through. It would be an
interersting student project (perhaps an opportunity to integrate sociology
Well said Lis.
For what use the information might be, some young friends of ours do a lot
of work in the field all over the world and they frequently take their
children with them rather than consigning them to caregivers. They took
their first-born son to Borneo at ten months. A few years
Honorable Forum:
Observations about causal and inhibiting factors in scientific
accomplishments:
The more you generalize about a population, the less you know about any
individual in that population. --Henry Geiger
There are a lot of variables that figure into such conclusions, and picking
Honorable Forum:
I heard of a college (university?) in (mid-20th century) Paris that was very
expensive. A few wealthy Americans and others sent their young men (probably no
women, but I don't know for sure) there. The new student was given a suitcase
and fifty dollars and told to find their
Y'all:
I wonder what effect, if any, that soil temperature and root depth might
have differentially with ambient surface atmospheric temperatures? That is,
soil temperatures can be warmer than surface atmospheric temperatures, and
if active solute transport is going on the temperature
Ecolog:
I tried running a comprehensive seminar on ecosystem restoration and management
back in the '80's with invited speakers, paying for expensive university
facilities, catering, busses, etc., but even though I charged an arm and a leg
I still lost money. Too fancy. I though we all did a
Josh et y'all:
Note: There once was a teacher who would grant an A to any student who
asked one intelligent question, regardless of whether the question implied
knowledge or ignorance. (Sigh . . .)
Invasion means that the dimensions of the habitat (temperature, radiation,
Ph, nutrients,
Ecolog:
Organisms respond to changes in the elements of their habitats. We can call
that invasive, and we do, but we must remember that invasion is a
cultural concept drawn from a culturally-loaded (biased) observation. It is
a conclusion, not a phenomenon.
WT
- Original Message -
Ecolog,
Chew says:
'We haven't come much closer to 'truth' than Charles Lyell did in 1832, when
he wrote (in the idiom of the day): We may regard the involuntary agency of
man as strictly analogous to that of the inferior animals. Like them we
unconsciously contribute to extend or limit the
I don't know that this point needs further emphasis, but I will do it
anyway.
Nature doesn't give a damn about any species or any context or order. Chaos
works.
Species arise when one gene or set of genes is favored more by its context
than another, even within the same species, and among
Ling Huang and Ecolog:
Soil is a major factor, nay, determinant, in/of what goes on with respect to
organisms on the surface, and soil chemistry (structure and biology) plays
an important role therein.
I hope that you can get a handle on just how differences in soil chemistry
are reflected
Ecolog,
I am dismayed that there has been so little response to Huang's questions.
Perhaps I am wrong in that assumption and they have been. But it seems to me
that the questions should be addressed and some conclusions concluded, even
if they are two-headed.
I suggest that everyone read
Ecolog:
Do I presume correctly that everybody has read (and perhaps taken courses
in?) The Genetics of Colonizing Species by Ledyard Stebbins?
WT
PS: Do I also presume correctly that all 14,000+ ecologists on this list
make clear distinctions between species which actually invade intact or
, my thought was that ecosystems are cyclical and
self-regulating. And as Wayne Tyson said, we are interrupting and
influencing this. This leads to many more questions. With what I've
learned so far through this posting, exhaustive studies would be needed
to
determine the best course of action
) species, to letting nature run its
course. However, my thought was that ecosystems are cyclical and
self-regulating. And as Wayne Tyson said, we are interrupting and
influencing this. This leads to many more questions. With what I've
learned so far through this posting, exhaustive studies would
Ecolog:
Well, I listened to the whole 45 or so minutes. It had its moments, to be
sure. But I also came away feeling that a lot of standard motherhood issues
were presumptively thrown out as just opinions, and that it largely ended up
as an audio mug-book for what are probably some very nice
Juan (and Ecolog):
This project strikes me (I must confess that most such projects strike me)
as a great opportunity to start with a known baseline like the cornfield and
some trees, then follow the changes to the baseline over time. I hope this
has been done; if so, the results should be
Ecolog:
Certainly more study is needed with respect to what exactly is going on with
all forms of life in urban and other cultural places, but facts should not
be twisted into misrepresentations. Skyscrapers might well make habitats,
even refuges, for falcons and other species taking
Ecolog:
Is there any debate within ESA about Agroecology?
Thanks for educating me,
WT
Help!
Need recommendations for the best laptop system for field use. Mapping (USGS)
and data collection plus the usual uses.
Also GPS; looking for the most seamless system possible.
Thanks,
WT
Ecolog:
johoma, thanks for this summary. PLos Biology is leading the way, and someday
Opens Source journals will be more common, edging out the ripoff journals and
truly advancing science and education for all. There is more work to be done,
but PLos Biology is helping to put steam behind the
That's a tall order, but start by understanding its cultures (power
structures) and how they fit or don't fit. Understand context in all its
complexities. Teach skepticism, but not ideology. Understand how long or
short all three corners of the stool are. Aim to reconcile them.
There's not
Thanks to all who helped with my question about computers.
Now I'd appreciate opinions and analysis regarding which model and features of
Toughbook I should go for, and which GPS units with which features are
considered best. For example, is the Garmin with the radio worth the extra
money?
AD and Ecolog:
. . . genuine intellectual inquiry is always subversive. It challenges
cultural and political assumptions. It critiques structures. It is
relentlessly self-critical. It explodes the self-indulgent myths and
stereotypes we use to elevate ourselves and ignore our complicity in
McNeely and all:
Thanks for this; it hits close to home, if only a ricochet. Fond (but faded)
memories of my main contact with Hubbs. A bunch of locals were asked to
evaluate the site of the coming Wild Animal Park of the San Diego zoo (now
called the San Diego Zoo Safari Park. I had a 1968
: mcnee...@cox.net
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU; Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] David Starr Jordan Indiana U Re: [ECOLOG-L] Jordan's
rule Folkloric Tangent
Hubbs kept an academic geneology showing the descendents of his students.
So
in other fields of science.
http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/tnhc/fish/hubbs/HIS/CV_HUBBS_2008-10-01.pdf
David McNeely
Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
McNeely and all:
Most interesting. That's a great story about the kids. Whatever happened
to
Clark? I wonder if he ever connected with Ed Ricketts
Ecolog:
I'd like to get a copy of the best possible research paper that best
illustrates how Bayesian statistics and Bayesian modeling got the job done,
preferably ones that made a major (if not THE major) contribution to
Ecology. I'd prefer plant ecology, but that's not a hard requirement.
The Hubbs coastal archaeology collection is at USD, not UCSD. Odd, but that's
the way it happened. Scripps wanted to get rid of it. Administrators?
WT
- Original Message -
From: Barney Luttbeg
To: Wayne Tyson
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L
Saturday), but to those who do
request more information by then, I will provide my cell phone number
(realizing that I am most often out of cell-phone range on these trips).
Respectfully submitted,
Wayne Tyson
failed
society - on all fronts: education, careers and research. We need
alternative competition to the ivory tower for those of us innovators who
have lost faith in the ivory tower yet still wish to move our innovations
forward without them!
On 9/12/2012 11:34 AM, Wayne Tyson wrote:
Dear
Ecolog:
I hope this is a fresh shot of grease in the creaky machinery of publication
and dissemination at worst, and the beginning of a transition to a
transformation of what I will call, until a more accurate or useful term
comes along, intellectual vigor, at best.
Good luck, Chris! VERY
Roberto and all:
It would be interesting to know what conclusions are expected to be derived
from this study. Clearly, I do not understand, and therefore am hesitant to
speculate, but I must admit that I wonder what will come of correlating
hundreds of plant species with such as mean annual
Ecolog:
I recently posted this to another website (based on moving toward community),
but decided to post it here for critical review. The subject being discussed on
the other listserv had to do with landscaping multi-family housing projects.
There may be a few cross-postings, but I doubt that
to wander off the
central, very basic question now.
WT
- Original Message -
From: Juan Alvez
To: Wayne Tyson
Cc: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Visualizing functional diversity
Hi Wayne,
You can best
they spend exchanging ideas outside of sessions, combined with an interest
in seeing some shorter presentations types offered.
Jennifer
Jennifer Riem
Science Programs Coordinator
Ecological Society of America
jenni...@esa.org
202.833.8773 x 218
-Original Message-
From: Wayne Tyson
off the central, very basic
question now.
WT
- Original Message -
From: Juan Alvez
To: Wayne Tyson
Cc: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Visualizing functional diversity
Hi Wayne,
You can best visualize ecosystem functions
fuzzy and very general definition but I hope this helps.
Regards,
Nicolas
Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:43:00 +0200, Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net a écrit:
Thanks, Juan; I do appreciate the reference, but I am looking for a
simper answer than that--a scientifically-based explanation of what
. Binary
categorization (like some biological traits) should be applied at the end
of our calculus processes.
Nicolas
Le Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:55:58 +0200, Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net a
écrit:
I tend to be even fuzzier-- Fuzzy Philosophy: A Foundation for Interneted
Ecology? This became my
Ecolog:
I still want to know what ecosystem function is. Just a simple definition,
no more, no less.
WT
- Original Message -
From: Matt Chew anek...@gmail.com
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:54 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Visualizing functional diversity
of these things is a tragic omission.
WT
PS: What is needed are specifics and details rather than endless strings of
generalities.
- Original Message -
From: Ted Mosquin tedmosq...@gmail.com
To: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net
Cc: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:25 AM
Ecolog:
I just caught a video production on TV done by a major governmental fire
authority. It contained a mixture of truth and superstition, as well as some
questionable assumptions that y'all can help me clear up.
1. A uniformed fire official claimed that some plants are DEPENDENT upon fire
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