JOB: Postdoctoral Position in Stochastic Processes at UofQ

2000-11-16 Thread Phil Pollett
Postdoctoral Research Fellow (fixed term) DEPARTMENT OF MATHEMATICS THE UNIVERSITY OF QUEENSLAND Reference No. 80300 A vacancy exists for the position of Postdoctoral Research Fellow in the Department of Mathematics. The successful applicant will work with Dr Phil Pollett on the Australian

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > you can also combine the Florida exit polling data with the following > summarized data from a recent conference on illiteracy: How can you "combine exit polling data" with []? Did exit polls conduct literacy tests? Is that what you

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread mal11
> > > > NUMBER WORDS CORRECT IN VOCABULARY TEST > > POLITICAL PARTY AFFILIATION Mean N Std Dev Grouped Median Std. Error of Mean > > STRONG DEMOCRAT 5.83 263 2.22 5.81 .14 > > NOT STR DEMOCRAT 6.02 365 2.016.00 .11 > > IND,

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread R. Martin
Neil W. Henry wrote: > > Paul Thompson wrote, speaking of "caustic jerks": > > > Herman Rubin wrote: > > > > > > You may be making a Type 3 error. Remember, the null > > > hypothesis is always false. > > > > > > Those who voted for Bush are more likely to be literate, > > > > This is the kind o

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu Radford Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It is certainly a controversial statement. It is logically equivalent to >>the statement that: >> >> "Non Bush-voters are more likely to be *illiterate* th

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Radford Neal
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is certainly a controversial statement. It is logically equivalent to >the statement that: > > "Non Bush-voters are more likely to be *illiterate* than Bush Voters" > >and I assume that the intended reading is that:

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu Ron Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ronald Bloom wrote: >> Lastly, I will repeat what I wrote previously: I fail to appreciate >> the alleged signficance of "literacy" or "relative literacy" >> in regard to someone's likelihood of committing one or another >> error of cogni

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ron Hardin
Ronald Bloom wrote: > > In sci.stat.edu Ron Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ronald Bloom wrote: > >> Lastly, I will repeat what I wrote previously: I fail to appreciate > >> the alleged signficance of "literacy" or "relative literacy" > >> in regard to someone's likelihood of committin

Re: What is S-Stress?

2000-11-16 Thread Jason A. Thompson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] leipzig.de says... > > For any explainations or hints on articles, books, online docs... I'd be > very grateful. > If the library has Psychometrika you could try the reference given in SPSS Professional Statistics 7.5: Takane, Y., Young, F., d

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ron Hardin
Ronald Bloom wrote: > Lastly, I will repeat what I wrote previously: I fail to appreciate > the alleged signficance of "literacy" or "relative literacy" > in regard to someone's likelihood of committing one or another > error of cognition or dexterity in manipulating either simple > or complex ma

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu Neil W. Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Herman Rubin wrote: >> > >> > >> > Those who voted for Bush are more likely to be literate, >> > > Rubin's is not a very controversial statement. I would think that most readers > of this newsgroup not only agree with it, bu

Re: Statistical Analysis of 'Streaks'?

2000-11-16 Thread miller
On 11/16/00, "Somebody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I wish to study 'streaks' - ie. periods of deviation from expected results >based upon large samples. >Could someone please advise as to the proper statistical-mathematical name >for 'streaks' and suggest other keywords that would lead me to dis

Re: election

2000-11-16 Thread Rich Ulrich
On 16 Nov 2000 20:23:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Sarle) wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hayden) writes: > > ... Maybe we should just agree that if the margin is less than > > 0.5% on election night then we honestly say it's too close to call > > That d

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Tom Johnstone
"Neil W. Henry" wrote: > Paul Thompson wrote, speaking of "caustic jerks": > > > Herman Rubin wrote: > > > > > > You may be making a Type 3 error. Remember, the null > > > hypothesis is always false. > > > > > > Those who voted for Bush are more likely to be literate, > > > > This is the kind o

Re: Help needed ... :-(

2000-11-16 Thread Avi Julie
Although this has not much to do with statistics, I agree. With all due respect, being international is much more complicated than being a statistician (or any other professional as a matter of fact). (snip) > From the email address, it appears that Dennis lives in a European > country where Eng

Re: election

2000-11-16 Thread Warren Sarle
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hayden) writes: > ... Maybe we should just agree that if the margin is less than > 0.5% on election night then we honestly say it's too close to call That doesn't help. There could still be disputes about whether the margin was less than 0.

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Neil W. Henry
Paul Thompson wrote, speaking of "caustic jerks": > Herman Rubin wrote: > > > > You may be making a Type 3 error. Remember, the null > > hypothesis is always false. > > > > Those who voted for Bush are more likely to be literate, > > This is the kind of offensive, stupid comment that belongs on

Re: Statistical Analysis of 'Streaks'?

2000-11-16 Thread geeker
In article , "Somebody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish to study 'streaks' - ie. periods of deviation from expected results > based upon large samples. > > Could someone please advise as to the proper statistical-mathematical name > for 'streaks' and suggest o

Election: What is the "gold standard" for determining error rates?

2000-11-16 Thread Corinne Aragaki
Does anyone know what the "gold standard" is for determining error rates for the machine counts? Thanks. = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at

Re: Stats on Palm Beach votes

2000-11-16 Thread Michael Granaas
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Robert J. MacG. Dawson wrote: > > > Michael Granaas wrote: > > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Thom Baguley wrote: > > > > > > I was also struck by the poll result in Florida newspaper reporting that most > > > Floridians thought the election was fair. Most was less than 2/3 in t

Proc Reg Forecasting Question

2000-11-16 Thread Anna Henson
Hello everyone, I am trying to use regression analysis with cross section data to perform a forecast. Could you please show me how to add the upper and lower limit with 95% confidence with the predicted line to the graph. And how to I overlay the actual the forecast line on the same graph. I l

Re: Stats on Palm Beach votes

2000-11-16 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Michael Granaas wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Thom Baguley wrote: > > > > I was also struck by the poll result in Florida newspaper reporting that most > > Floridians thought the election was fair. Most was less than 2/3 in that case. > > I would be horrified if 1/3 of the electorate in an En

Re: What's type III?

2000-11-16 Thread Radford Neal
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is another definition [ of "Type III error" ] cited a few > times which is seemingly technical, "rejecting the null, but in the > wrong direction". I think that is a similar sneer at bone-headedness. > There is no

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:56:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: < snip > > Occam's razor would say that undercount pickups (due to manual > "discovery" of chad-issue ballots) in statistically greater > proportion than the overall breakdown of the county > is due to vote tampering by unknown persons

Statistical Analysis of 'Streaks'?

2000-11-16 Thread Somebody
I wish to study 'streaks' - ie. periods of deviation from expected results based upon large samples. Could someone please advise as to the proper statistical-mathematical name for 'streaks' and suggest other keywords that would lead me to discussions of this phenomenon? Thank you. Pause ===

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Paul Thompson
Herman Rubin wrote: > In article <8ut1je$aef$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Rodney Sparapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 2) they didn't examine the undervotes in the original count or the > >state-law mandated > >> re-count; it's only

Oscar Kempthorne died

2000-11-16 Thread YNOT
FYI, Statistics Community, It is with sadness that I inform the statistics community that Oscar Kempthorne died peacefully in a nursing home in Maryland last night. Many of you will remember him through his talks at conferences and his

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Paul Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "P.G.Hamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Herman Rubin wrote: > > > > > Those who voted for Bush > > > > > > > > > and so push harder on the punch to make sure that it > > > went all the way through. > > > > A related interpretat

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Paul Thompson
> At this point, I have been shocked at the unprofessional, bias, and cluelessly partisan comments that have been made on this thread. Comments like "Bush voters being more educated" do not reflect the educated mind, but rather the lawyerly temperament that Any argument is equally valid. Those,

Balanced Incomplete Block Designs

2000-11-16 Thread chiuwing
Hello: Does anyone happen to know of any computer programs or algorithms that can simulate the data patterns of Balanced Incomplete Block Designs (BIBD)? I'm trying to test the robustness of some model. I found a number of articles and books describing BIBD but didn't have any luck finding any

Re: Stats on Palm Beach votes

2000-11-16 Thread Michael Granaas
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Thom Baguley wrote: > > I was also struck by the poll result in Florida newspaper reporting that most > Floridians thought the election was fair. Most was less than 2/3 in that case. > I would be horrified if 1/3 of the electorate in an English election thought > the election

Re: What's type III?

2000-11-16 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:40:38 GMT, Kresten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Howard Raiffa (Decision Analysis, footnote, p. 264) agrees that > > errors > > of the third kind are "solving the wrong problem", and attributes > > this to John Tukey > > My ref is: > > Kimball, AW (1957) > Errors of th

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread mal11
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "P.G.Hamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herman Rubin wrote: > > > Those who voted for Bush > > > > > and so push harder on the punch to make sure that it > > went all the way through. > > A related interpretation is that those who were voting Gore > were less c

Re: Slightly, but not quite, OT election story [not USA!]

2000-11-16 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Meanwhile, here in Canada, an Internet sampling story is in the news. Mr. Stockwell Day is the leader of the rather-right-wing Alliance party (which a few months ago changed its name to the "Canadian Regional Alliance" Party, then changed it again hurriedly when somebody noticed the acron

Re: What is S-Stress?

2000-11-16 Thread Art Kendall
Iff my memory is correct, Joe Kruskal came up with the idea of S-stress. I don't have his e-mail address but it is something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many people who do MDS hang out on class-l see http://www.pitt.edu/~csna/#class-l and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Markus Tauber wrote: > +++ > SORRY for po

Re: manual recount - of punched ballots

2000-11-16 Thread Thom Baguley
Herman Rubin wrote: > It is not clear where the "complications" in the American > system originated, but what you call "federal" countries > in Europe would not be considered federal in the US, but > central. The United STATES was formed as a confederation > of sovereign states. Agreed, that the

What is S-Stress?

2000-11-16 Thread Markus Tauber
+++ SORRY for posting into 2 forums! +++ Hello! I've got an problem in using Multidimensional Scaling: SPSS gives me an S-Stress Value, but I can't get any information about it. I've read a book on multivariate analysis (Backhaus et al. [2000]: Multivariate Analysemethoden), but it contains only

Re: manual recount - of punched ballots

2000-11-16 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
"P.G.Hamer" wrote: > > Rich Ulrich wrote: > > > I don't think that ANY re-vote is pragmatically feasible. > > Agreed. > > > Anyway, ignoring the 19,000 double-punched ballots > > In an ideal world, a pragmatically defensible option would > be to split the double-punched votes resulting fr

Re: manual recount - of punched ballots

2000-11-16 Thread P.G.Hamer
Rich Ulrich wrote: > I don't think that ANY re-vote is pragmatically feasible. Agreed. > Anyway, ignoring the 19,000 double-punched ballots In an ideal world, a pragmatically defensible option would be to split the double-punched votes resulting from the poor [and illegal?] ballot paper desi

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread P.G.Hamer
Herman Rubin wrote: > Those who voted for Bush > and so push harder on the punch to make sure that it > went all the way through. A related interpretation is that those who were voting Gore were less certain that they had chosen the right hole, so pressed less positively. [They would have be

Re: Stats on Palm Beach votes

2000-11-16 Thread Thom Baguley
Robert J. MacG. Dawson wrote: > > Eric Scharin wrote: > > > > > The discussions I've heard during the media coverage of this all have a > > disconcertingly political tinge to them. There seems to be a lack of debate > > based on principle. The principle I'm referring to the right of every > >

Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?

2000-11-16 Thread T.S. Lim
I'm attempting to compile an online list of the fundamental differences between our field Statistics and Data Mining. Several online references that touch on the topic include http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~jhf/ftp/dm-stat.ps http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-1/contents.htm#Hand

European Meeting of Statisticians, Funchal, August 2001

2000-11-16 Thread Diego Kuonen
Apologies for cross-postings. == First announcement and call for papers == The 23rd European Meeting of Statisticians will be held at Funchal, capital of the Portuguese island of Madeira, from 13-18 August 2001, under the

Re: What's type III?

2000-11-16 Thread Kresten
> Howard Raiffa (Decision Analysis, footnote, p. 264) agrees that > errors > of the third kind are "solving the wrong problem", and attributes > this to John Tukey My ref is: Kimball, AW (1957) Errors of the third kind in statistical consulting J Am Stat Assoc 57, 133 Haven't got the paper, t

European Meeting of Statisticians, Funchal, August 2001

2000-11-16 Thread Diego Kuonen
Apologies for cross-postings. == First announcement and call for papers == The 23rd European Meeting of Statisticians will be held at Funchal, capital of the Portuguese island of Madeira, from 13-18 August 2001, under the

Re: NY Times on "statisticians' view" of election

2000-11-16 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.consult Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those who voted for Bush are more likely to be literate, You're really quite serious, aren't you? Can you site any demographic data to support this? > and in particular aware of what the punch card devices are > doing, and