[Elecraft] SS30DV feedback OT

2015-10-04 Thread Charlie Delta
Very impressive indeed. Pre-distortion will hopefully be made available as a option for the K3 in the future. That would be a superb option if it does become available. What these results however do confirm is that pre-distortrion is worth implimenting and that it does work very well.

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-03 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
de 2015 10:19 a.m. Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback > If higher voltages are needed to clean up the amp, how about a DC to > DC converter. How about a higher voltage battery system rather than added complexity in the transceiver? 73, ... Joe

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
If higher voltages are needed to clean up the amp, how about a DC to DC converter. How about a higher voltage battery system rather than added complexity in the transceiver? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 10/3/2015 12:54 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: As I run my K3 from batteries at home, and am about

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback OT

2015-10-03 Thread Ignacy
With predistortion coming sooner or later to mainstream radios, higher PA voltage for 100W is dead issue. Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-SS30DV-feedback-OT-tp7608653p7608665.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback OT

2015-10-03 Thread Ignacy
With bias, 12V transistors are class B or AB, not C. See http://flarc.net/eme-info/PDF/N1JEZ-2.pdf. He describes an amp changed to Class B (very low bias for little heating). Regular IMD3 -22db. After predistortion -55db. Plus extra db in additional power power. All for a cost of feedback +

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback OT

2015-10-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 10/3/2015 10:14 AM, Ignacy wrote: With predistortion coming sooner or later to mainstream radios, higher PA voltage for 100W is dead issue. Ignacy Higher voltage PA and predistortion are completely separate items. Even with predistortion, good engineering principles mean higher voltage

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread ae4pb
, October 02, 2015 8:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Hello I will appreciate feedback from users of the SS30DV power supply with a K3 Are you happy with it? With full power on the K3, the SS30DV is running comfortable? IS noisy? If you compare

[Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello I will appreciate feedback from users of the SS30DV power supply with a K3 Are you happy with it? With full power on the K3, the SS30DV is running comfortable? IS noisy? If you compare for example with a Samlex SEC-1235M, what do you think? Thanks very much 73, Jorge

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
/CW5W -Mensaje original- De: Matt Zilmer [mailto:mzil...@roadrunner.com] Enviado el: viernes, 02 de octubre de 2015 12:13 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Hi Jorge, I have both power supplies here - SS30DV and the Samlex

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Marty Koszewski
I have similar spur issues, approx 30khz apart, with the SS30DV on 40 & 80 meters as well. I do not get any noise from my Samlex 1235M using the same power cabling and same installation location. I will try the suggested toroid solution to see if I can get rid of the spurs. I do prefer the

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Matt Zilmer
.com] >Enviado el: viernes, 02 de octubre de 2015 12:13 p.m. >Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM >CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback > >Hi Jorge, > >I have both power supplies here - SS30DV and the Samlex SEC1235M. > >Except for the 1235

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Jorge, I have both power supplies here - SS30DV and the Samlex SEC1235M. Except for the 1235 having voltage and current meters (the SS30 does not), there is little difference in performance. One thing that might affect your decision is that the 1235 has an (internally) adjustable output

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Rick Stealey
We had spurs all over the 80 meter band here on the K3S station that is being run as a remote, approximately 30 khz apart. The main station 50 ft away (but on different antennas spaced 100 feet) had no noise. At first we suspected the OCF dipole, then the networking boxes, then the laptop.

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Hi Jorge, I have both power supplies here - SS30DV and the Samlex SEC1235M. Except for the 1235 having voltage and current meters (the SS30 does not), there is little difference in performance. One thing that mi

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
m] Enviado el: viernes, 02 de octubre de 2015 12:13 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Hi Jorge, I have both power supplies here - SS30DV and the Samlex SEC1235M. Except for the 1235 having voltage and current meters (the

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback The SS30DV has +/- bolt terminals on the rear. The K3S is supplied with a power cable using ring lugs for these bolts on one end, and an APP connector for the K3S on the other. One other note, at the 100W operating level, we do not see any

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
any cable and donĀ“t worry about connectors. Thanks! Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -Mensaje original- De: Matt Zilmer [mailto:mzil...@roadrunner.com] Enviado el: viernes, 02 de octubre de 2015 12:13 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Hi Jorg

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Fred Townsend
6QL -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 12:33 PM To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback On 10/2/2015 12:33

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread brian
alf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 12:33 PM To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback On 10/2/2015 12:33 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The SS30DV has +/- bolt terminals on the rear. The K3S is supplied with a po

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Fred et al: I would agree. When used with decent power cables, good connectors properly applied and overall length of 4 ft or so, remote sensing will likely bring more issues to the table than necessary. Additional wiring, additional connectors and filtering required to keep RF out and the

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
To me the real solution is to incorporate an internal power supply. I agree that higher PA voltages will produce cleaner transmitters. Therefore multiple voltages, no problem, minimized ground loop issues, reduce number of cables. Only one box to transport as opposed to two. No extra cables

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback OT

2015-10-02 Thread Fred Townsend
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 1:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback Fred, I'm a fan of higher voltage -- perhaps 24 or 40 volts so that PA

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're hitting the posting limit on this one. Let's wind it down in the next 3-4 posts at most. Then thread closed for now. Eric /elecraft.com/ On 10/2/2015 4:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Doing so reduces any IR drop on power supply wiring by a factor of 2 or 3. Higher voltage - 24 or 40

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Doing so reduces any IR drop on power supply wiring by a factor of 2 or 3. Higher voltage - 24 or 40 V results in decreasing the voltage drop by a factor or 4 or 9. The voltage drop is a function of current *squared*. 24 or 48 volt finals certainly produce much cleaner signals as the active

Re: [Elecraft] SS30DV feedback

2015-10-02 Thread Bill Frantz
As I run my K3 from batteries at home, and am about to run in from batteries in Sierra county for the California QSO party -- no generators permitted where we are. I need battery power for my normal operations. If higher voltages are needed to clean up the amp, how about a DC to DC converter.