Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Turn around Time

2016-02-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bruce, The actual repairs do not take that long - figure a day for the actual repair on most cases. The real question is just how soon can a technician get to a particular repair. I work on the legacy gear for Elecraft (K2, K1, KX1, XV series transverters) and the total turnaround time

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Turn around Time

2016-02-20 Thread Gerald Manthey
Bruce Depends on time to trouble shoot and others ahead. But I can tell you from experience, they fix them like they were brand new again. I sent mine in and wow. I had had it back in a reasonable amount to time and having been burned in again and it came back like new and not a issue. Great

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Bayern
... so that the red 12V hot lead plugged into the black jack, partially melting it. Just because someone has to state the obvious ... how about using a fuse? Mark AD5SS On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On 5/31/2014 4:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-06-01 Thread Nr4c
I think you'll need to get the back off to get to the APPs. You'll prob have to remove both housings. Use a small screwdriver to lift the contact lip over the spring and pull the housings from the rear. Push new housings on and reassemble the radio. I've never tried to remove two housings

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-06-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/31/2014 4:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: what did you do the break the APP housing, they are pretty sturdy things. Once I looked more carefully at it, it turns out the wound was self-inflicted. My operating bench has no clearance space behind it and a shelf only six inches or so above it,

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-05-31 Thread Mike Reublin
Jim, Download the assembly manual. http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#K3 Gud Luck! Mike NF4L On May 31, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: The plastic housing of the black power pole that is captive to the radio is broken, so I'm trying to take

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Are you referring to the two screws that hold the voltage regulators to the side panel? If so, the major problem with them is reinstalling the lockwasher and nut on the one toward the front (unless you have a proper 'crooked tool' to hold the nut from the side without it twisting -

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Repair Broken Power Pole

2014-05-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/31/2014 4:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jim, Are you referring to the two screws that hold the voltage regulators to the side panel? If so, the major problem with them is reinstalling the lockwasher and nut on the one toward the front (unless you have a proper 'crooked tool' to hold the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-17 Thread Jack Brabham
Well, here's a follow up. A week after the assumed return posting date, I emailed, asking for a status update and got a phone call from Elecraft the next day. Nothing had happened during that week, apparently the return shipping just fell thru a crack and didn't occur (and yes, they are

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jack, I was unaware of your difficulties. I'll discuss your repair with Rene first thing Monday and get back to you by phone. We carefully test repaired or modified rigs before sending them back, so your results are a bit baffling. I'm sure we'll figure it out. 73, Wayne N6KR Jack Brabham

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, I see Wayne has responded and I am certain he will help get to the bottom of the problem. I do have one question about your SSB behavior - do you see the same drop-off in power if you set the wattmeter to read peak? The power rating of the K3 is expressed in Peak Envelope Power, so your

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair - ALC Setting

2010-07-17 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
- Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com snip The ALC meter on the K3 is not completely an indication of ALC - the first 4 bars act more like a VU meter to tell you the audio level. The 5th bar indicates the start of ALC action. 73, Don W3FPR I may be reading

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair - ALC Setting

2010-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, That is the norm only for DATA modes where you would not want to activate the ALC. For SSB and other speech modes, drive the ALC meter to 5 - 7 bars with the Compression set to zero and a normal voice. See the manual page 28. Best results are when you are kicking up to 7 bars on voice

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-17 Thread Jack Brabham
Don, What I'm watching to see the creep is the W2 meter's Windows app with the meters set to AVG and the peak hold bar ON. I'm interpreting this as the peak of the fluctuating average power level This is the number that rolls up around 50% during the first 20 seconds of an initial

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, Yes, the K3 has to recalculate the power drive after a power cycle or a band change - so let's not call that part of the process creep, it is just the K3 power control mechanism coming up to speed with the power setting that you requested using the Power Knob. The power will start out

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair - ALC Setting

2010-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim. I might add that your PSK problem of working above 1000 Hz on the waterfall may be a result of setting the K3 power high an using the audio input level to control the power. While that is the best for most of the transceivers in the marketplace, it is NOT the way to operate a K2 or K3.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:34:18 -0500, Jim McDonald wrote: My K3 was one of the lightning casualties they (Ren‚) just fixed. Add me to that list. It took two trips and a lot of Rene's bench time, but the radio is working fine six months later. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-05 Thread Bob Stevens
, 2010 11:52 PM To: Don Wilhelm; Jim McDonald Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Fully agree with your comments Don, And I want to take the opportunity to encourage every Ham to pay more attention to protect our lovely K's and all ellectronic devices in the house. I've

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Hi Ed, Sorry for the delay replying to this thread. I've been out of town for ten days and am just now catching up with older emails. I just checked and we're running at 3-4 weeks right now for repairs and upgrades. My target is 2 weeks or better. I was in the factory yesterday and personally

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Sam Morgan
read the following 2 emails, the first is from a elecraft owner the 2nd a reply form on of the 2 elecraft owners once again I will ask, when is the last time you heard of any such interaction with one of the big three? I'm certain you will get no such about anything the sell === Hi Guys, Please

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Sam Morgan
snip sorry I hit the send button to soon that 'edit as new' feature bit me again again my apologizes to the list -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Grant Youngman
What I find remarkable is that Elecraft is even willing to look at a radio that has suffered lightening damage. Back in the mid-90's I took an indirect lightening hit that left a bit of molten metal around the shack. Two other radio top 3 manufacturers were totally unwilling to even attempt

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
That's not as much a dig as it might sound. A common occurrence after lightning damage is for components to weaken and then fail later on, on their own inconvenient schedule. A question for the K3 repair guru's...is a lightning damaged board replaced and tossed, or repair of the lightning damage

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Grant Youngman
Actually, wasn't a dig. I understand why there would be reluctance to touch a lightening damaged radio, given the issue you (and the vendors at the time) raised. Which is why I'm kind of surprised Elecraft would do it, unless there were a caveat in the fine print :-) Grant/NQ5T On Jul 4,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread David leDuc
I started this thread last week. I was just venting. I really didn't expect as much discussion. It is nice to know that the principals at Elecraft actually read this discussion group and pay attention if they think it is necessary. I know that the K3 is unequivocally the best performing radio

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair (Lightning damage)

2010-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Guy, I have repaired several lightning damaged K2/100s. To protect against a re-repair within my 90 day warranty period, I arbitrarily replace all the active devices in the KPA100 and then do any required repairs to the base K2, usually replacing at least the firmware chip - usually little

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Jim McDonald
My K3 was one of the lightning casualties they (René) just fixed. If it wasn't cost effective to replace components on a board, he replaced the board. Neither René nor Madelyn said it couldn't be completely repaired. I think the modularity is what makes it possible to ensure that a lightning

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, I too would place lightning damage into the Acts of Nature category and not a warranty consideration. A warranty covers premature component failures and failure to perform to specification, which is different IMHO. For a comparison example, a new automobile has a warranty period, but if

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-04 Thread Philippe Trottet
Fully agree with your comments Don, And I want to take the opportunity to encourage every Ham to pay more attention to protect our lovely K's and all ellectronic devices in the house. I've seen so many locations who are facing huge lightings storms and this does not happen only to others,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Over. On 7/2/2010 11:27 AM, Mike wrote: I paid the full price for my DSP board swap. Was this somehow a warranty price? Am I due a refund? 73, Mike NF4L Hector Padron wrote: The biggest difference I hear with Elecraft is that a lot of the problems can be resolved quicker if the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-03 Thread Rick Prather
Which is nifty for sure! I have it on my dock on the Mac and run it once in a while before I open my loggers and now the clock is a non-issue! Rick K6LE On 7/2/2010, at 2:49 , Dick Dievendorff wrote: I should point out that Dick's nifty date and time setting code is a derivative of David

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Pete Smith
One thought that comes to mind - put a repair queue length figure on the web-site and update it every day or two 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Hector Padron
stay away from her.!! --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Pete Smith n...@contesting.com wrote: From: Pete Smith n...@contesting.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair To: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 11:34 AM One

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Mike K2MK
Upgrades are like elective surgery. You want to do it at a convenient time. I find myself much less interested in ham radio during the summer when there are so many other distractions. An interesting statistic might be what percentage of K3s are factory built. If the owner had his radio factory

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative

2010-07-02 Thread Pete Smith
: Gary Gregorygaryvk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair To: NZ8Jn...@woh.rr.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 10:00 PM Hmmm, Still like to know just what the ratio of units sold vs units requiring return for repair. Not likely to see those figures I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Pete Smith
I wasn't thinking of a where is my radio in the queue? feature, just a statement of the current length of the queue for complete radios and/or boards. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Ed Lambert
As a prospective K3 customer, I have been following this link with very great interest. I would be interested in knowing what percent of K3 deliveries require return to Elecraft for repair and of that cohort, what is the percentage of K3's that were fundamentally defective upon delivery as opposed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative

2010-07-02 Thread Mike
, 7/1/10, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair To: NZ8J n...@woh.rr.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 10:00 PM Hmmm, Still like to know just what the ratio of units sold vs units

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Jan Erik Holm
On 2010-07-02 17:09, Ed Lambert wrote: of the day. The repair of a K3, it seems to me, almost certainly requires a factory return, which, from this thread, is somewhat unappealing. Ed Lambert, KD3Y (K2 1999, KX1 1492) I would say on the contrary. The way the K3 is constructed, I would call

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Duncan Carter
I purchased an assembled K3 because I didn't want to do the whole assembly project because of problems that I have with doing a lot of close work. I'm experienced with electronics repair in general, having operated service facilities for industrial instrumentation and having always repaired

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Jack Brabham
I agree that a posted repair queue length figure would probably eliminate a lot of angst by setting reasonable expectations. Probably eliminate a lot of phone calls to Elecraft as well. A weekly prognostication would be more than adequate for my purposes. Another thing that could use a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Tough call Ed... I had two K2s, and still really like the rig. Think the K3 is a bit more flexible and added 6M... Understand about the funds Happy 4th o' July! Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Steve Ellington
or fat finger the assembly. Steve N4LQ - Original Message - From: Ed Lambert gelamb...@charter.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair As a prospective K3 customer, I have been following this link with very great

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative

2010-07-02 Thread Bob Dorchuck
A couple of weeks ago I blew something on the KIO3A board in my brand new K3 Could I ask why this was not covered under warranty if it was a brand new K3? Bob W6VY Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative Pete Smith Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:41:10 -0700 Whoah! This is really news to me. A couple

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread The Smiths
2010 11:09:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair As a prospective K3 customer, I have been following this link with very great interest. I would be interested in knowing what percent of K3 deliveries require return to Elecraft for repair and of that cohort, what is the percentage of K3's

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Duncan Carter
The K3 worked on 30 meters when I received it but the output was a bit low and drifted lower with component aging. Such things do happen and Elecraft gave me the support to find the problem and plus I've had experience with trimmers in older gear like my FT-101E that I've had for 35 years and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Phil LaMarche
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:41 PM To: gelamb...@charter.net; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Ed, STOP your worrying right now. The K3 has PROVEN itself to be a VERY reliable rig, and what

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Lew Phelps K6LMP
Having dealt in the past with tech support from Yaesu and Icom, and now enjoying the incredibly better support that Elecraft offers, I have three observations: 1. With any of the Japanese manufacturers, your ONLY option is to ship to the factory. If it's under warranty, you void the warranty

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative

2010-07-02 Thread Pete Smith
7000 On 7/2/2010 12:21 PM, Bob Dorchuck wrote: A couple of weeks ago I blew something on the KIO3A board in my brand new K3 Could I ask why this was not covered under warranty if it was a brand new K3? Bob W6VY Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair alternative Pete Smith Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:41:10

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Ed Lambert wrote: Thanks, Dunc. I am mildly disconcerted by the reports of radios delivered with defects. Thanks again, Except in the case of very large monolithic devices (MRI machine, Jetliner), military applications, life-critical devices, it is understood that competition does not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Fred Atchley
Pete N4RZ wrote : One thought that comes to mind - put a repair queue length figure on the web-site and update it every day or two The only problem with that Pete is that it would eat up resources that could otherwise be used productively, thus slowing down actual work. 73, Fred, AE6iC, K3#2241

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread George A. Thornton
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair As a prospective K3 customer, I have been following this link with very great interest. I would be interested in knowing what percent of K3 deliveries require return to Elecraft for repair and of that cohort, what is the percentage of K3's that were fundamentally

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread David leDuc
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Pete N4RZ wrote : One thought that comes to mind - put a repair queue length figure on the web-site and update it every day or two The only problem with that Pete is that it would eat up resources that could otherwise be used productively, thus slowing down actual

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Ed Lambert
Hi Guys, Please don't misunderstand my original question. (And thanks to all who have contributed to an interesting discussion.) I had been inactive for quite some time when I purchased a K2. That purchase not only returned me to the hobby, but it also made me, probably, a lifetime Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Fred Jensen
Pete N4RZ wrote : One thought that comes to mind - put a repair queue length figure on the web-site and update it every day or two The only problem with that Pete is that it would eat up resources that could otherwise be used productively, thus slowing down actual work. Actually, there's a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-02 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I should point out that Dick's nifty date and time setting code is a derivative of David Fleming's nifty clock setting utility. Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Pete N4RZ wrote : One thought that comes to mind - put a repair

Re: [Elecraft] K3 repair

2010-07-01 Thread Gary, W7TEA
Dave, I sent in my K3 for hardware updates that I was unable to perform. It was in Aptos just over a month. It arrives home tomorrow When I inquired earlier this year, I was told that the waiting period was approximately two weeks. So, I believe they are experiencing a rush of new work

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread John Ragle
A fate worse than death...being confined to 2 meter FM while the real rig is being tweaked/repaired! John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 7/1/2010 12:10 PM, Tim Cook wrote: Wish I'd have known that before I sent one in for some work yesterday, I might have at least explored other options before

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Donald Butler
I've had to send a K3 back to Aptos two different times. Each time I did so it ended up taking twice as long as I was initially told it would (estimates were provided by the tech support person rather than someone who probably knew more). I didn't like it. I've always had more respect for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Phil Hystad
Just goes to show you that the smart operator is like a boy scout -- be prepared. So, have two K3s or at least another good rig for backup. Of course, a conspiracy theorist would see this as a Elecraft marketing scheme: that is, slow down repair cycle to encourage customers to buy a second K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
As it was explained to me, there are two different areas, Repairs and Modifications. I was told two to three weeks when I initially asked for an approximate time, but that was back towards the beginning of the year. There has been one new mod added since then. I'm guessing a lot of folks put

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread The Smiths
-0700 To: n...@comcast.net CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair Just goes to show you that the smart operator is like a boy scout -- be prepared. So, have two K3s or at least another good rig for backup. Of course, a conspiracy theorist would see

Re: [Elecraft] K3 repair

2010-07-01 Thread WA6L
I sent my K3 in about 2 months ago for some mods and updates. I was originally told it would be a 2-3 week turn around. After 3 weeks I contacted them and was told it would be 5 weeks. After 5 weeks, I contacted them again and was told that it would go on the bench the following week. It did

Re: [Elecraft] K3 repair

2010-07-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, While such proactive communication would be a good thing, please understand that it takes a person -who is knowledgeable of the process and estimated time - to create the emails for that communication. The person with that kind of knowledge is most likely the tech himself, and if

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread David leDuc
: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:08 PM To: phys...@mac.com; n...@comcast.net Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair No Conspirac therosts would see it more as a scheme to let ops know that the good old days of Hams actually working on their own radios are paractially dead, and even

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread The Smiths
I would be happy to trouble shoot and repair the K3 rigs if I thought that people would actually send them to an outside source for repair. However, I think that people would much rather wait the 7 weeks than have their rigs repaired by someone other than Elecraft. That's one thing Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm, Still like to know just what the ratio of units sold vs units requiring return for repair. Not likely to see those figures I suppose but it would perhaps throw some light on the reliability of the radios. These figures would need to have the operator caused repairs shown as separate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The biggest ramp up for working on a K3 is getting to the point where you can read its schematic with understanding. The only piece of test equipment I've had to use on it is an XG-1. I DID have some problems that I could see most sending it back to the shop. DO need magnifying glasses tho and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Brett Howard
I really wanted to try and trace out what was going wrong with my KPA3 but I was kinda low for time to put into it and the first thing I was going to need was some ribbon cables made up that would allow me to remote the KPA3 so that I could trace it while its outside the K3... I figured I'd move

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Wayne Burdick
The vast majority of repairs are turned around in less than 2 weeks. When Eric and I get back (we're both out of town), we'll review the reasons for the long turnarounds mentioned and make any necessary changes. We did have a big increase in upgrade requests in the past 6 months,