[Elecraft] More comments

2008-11-16 Thread Ross
I apologise to all for the bandwidth I am taking up, but I have often found it does help to write things down. I have just tried SSB I can see the signal on the Winradio and hooking up the xvtr, I now have output. The problem may be , under the CW letters on the right hand side of the screen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 More comments

2008-11-16 Thread Dave G4AON
Ross I assume you are referring to a K3. The T means you have CW text decode turned on. It will not stop you sending CW. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 --- I apologise to all for the bandwidth I am taking up, but I have often found it does help to write things down. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 panadapter choices

2008-11-16 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Julian, G4ILO wrote: transceiver. An SDR is basically not a lot different from a direct ...can be not a lot different from... conversion receiver which QRPers habitually knock up in an hour or two using parts from their junk box. The computer sound card and software does most of It can

Re: [Elecraft] Transverter use

2008-11-16 Thread AD6XY
You will only get power out of the transverter port in transverter mode. I assume you have that set up and have done the mW calibration in the setup? Mike -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Transverter-use-tp1505297p1505589.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at

[Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 - Circuit diagram error

2008-11-16 Thread Stewart Baker
Documentation for the speaker mod says RFC47 is 100uH. However, the circuit diagram is marked 10uH. 73 Stewart G3RXQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr.

[Elecraft] K3 and Perseus SDR as a 2nd RX

2008-11-16 Thread Bob DeHaney
It looks very good, but the Gotcha is that it costs EURO 800 or $1040.00 including tax at the dealer here in Germany. As near as I can tell that's double the cost of the K3 2nd receiver. Vy 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

[Elecraft] WRT S-meters:

2008-11-16 Thread Cortland Richmond
I'd agree that fractional S units could be useful, a ratio of 2:1 being often unhelpful. The suggested workarounds look good; one hang an old RF voltmeter on the IF. But how elaborate do we want to get? Anyway, here's a verse, Roger Copy, I wrote and sent to my club's bulletin in 2003: Roger

[Elecraft] K3 and ICOM PW-1

2008-11-16 Thread Bob DeHaney
Check the circuit diagram. If they are using the same concept as in my ICOM IC-2KL, then the amp has absolutely no protection without ALC. Vy 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber

[Elecraft] K3 - RFC47

2008-11-16 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Hi Everyone, The original value of the RFC47 in the K3 schematic is 10 uh. Could someone please post or forward to me the value of the the new RFC47 contained in the mod kit from Elecraft? 73 de N1LQ-Dave ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47

2008-11-16 Thread Paul Christensen
And the DigiKey P/N for the new RFC is... M8290-ND 5800-101-RC Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: David and Dianne on Comcast [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 Hi Everyone, The original

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47

2008-11-16 Thread Paul Christensen
Could someone please post or forward to me the value of the the new RFC47 contained in the mod kit from Elecraft? 73 de N1LQ-Dave Dave, The new RFC can be obtained from Mouser. It is indeed a 100uH Miller choke: Mouser P/N 542-5800-101-RC Paul, W9AC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47

2008-11-16 Thread Randy Downs
Probably the same value just heavier wire to reduce the voltage drop at higher volume levels. Randy K8RDD - Original Message - From: David and Dianne on Comcast [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 Hi

RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Preamp gain

2008-11-16 Thread Nelson Moyer
I asked the Elecraft service technician this question during a troubleshooting session on the phone last week, and he told me the built-in preamp has 10 dB gain. That's approximately two S units. My listening experience on 160 meters with a preamp with 17 dB gain suggests that 10 dB is about

[Elecraft] key out not tripping relay

2008-11-16 Thread Todd Ruby
I have just successfully loaded latest beta firmware and now the K3 will not trip the relay in the ameritron as it had before. ihave the same key out connection that was untouched but maybe i need to reconfig something? 73 de todd WB2ZAB ___

[Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread cloud runner
for what it may be worth... For my pair-of-K2's in SO2R, I have routed the audio in such a way that I have a balance control with the audio from the two radios. I call it a mixing control. I find that optimum is achieved when the full strength audio is in one ear, and that same audio is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47

2008-11-16 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, Never mind the part numbers, what about the results? Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: Randy Downs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 | Probably the same value just heavier

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 - Circuit diagram error

2008-11-16 Thread Bob Cunnings
I don't think it's an error. Inspection of the photographs in the Elecraft K3 AF Stage Upgrade Instructions reveals value code brown-black-black which is 10mH. The marking on the new part appears to be 101 which I read as 100mH. So it's just a recent change not reflected in the published

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
If you must pollute the audio from one receiver with audio from the other receiver, add a 5 to 10K pot between the tip and the ring of your headphones and adjust it for the level of pollution you need. There is no need for Wayne (or probably Lyle) to design crosstalk into the DSP process.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Preamp gain

2008-11-16 Thread Bob Cunnings
According to the schematic, the preamp gain is 11 dB. Roughly 2 S-units, which agrees with my experience when using it. Bob NW8L On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Fred Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me how much gain [like in S units] I should see from the preamp? This will

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Dr. James C. Garland
Joe, Your comment strikes me as unnecessarily negative. (Pollute? Crosstalk?) I thought Fred's suggestion, coming as it does from a very experienced CW contester, makes a lot of sense. 73, Jim W8ZR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[Elecraft] K3

2008-11-16 Thread Phil LaMarche
I am going to order, factory assembled: 3/100F KAT3F KTCX03-1 KUS 1.0 2.8 6 Please advise if this is what you would recommend or what would you take out and replace. Based on user experience. will operate all modes including PSK. I read many comments on the reflector on what filters to have

[Elecraft] K3

2008-11-16 Thread Phil LaMarche
Whoops forgot to add KRK3 I am going to order, factory assembled: 3/100F KAT3F KTCX03-1 KUS 1.0 2.8 6 Please advise if this is what you would recommend or what would you take out and replace. Based on user experience. will operate all modes including PSK. I read many comments on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RFC47 - Circuit diagram error

2008-11-16 Thread Stewart Baker
Well spotted Bob. The documentation always takes time to catch up. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:03:53 -0700, Bob Cunnings wrote: I don't think it's an error. Inspection of the photographs in the Elecraft K3 AF Stage Upgrade Instructions reveals value code brown-black-black which is

Re: [Elecraft] K3

2008-11-16 Thread Dave, G4AON
Phil, I ordered similar parts but as a kit (not the KRX3 second receiver). I am sure there will be lots of suggestions, but here are mine! (a) The K3 takes around 5 hours to assemble for the 10 Watt version and another hour for the 100W PA. Whether to opt for the factory assembled version is a

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread NZ8J
I find pollution of the opposite receiver (unusual way of describing it) to be very beneficial when listening to a dx station and the pileup. Strange as it may seem, it really helps me separate the dx station from the callers. 73 Tim NZ8J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Elecraft] [K3] Shipping Status of the KDVR3

2008-11-16 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Hi, According to http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm: The KDVR3 has been released to production and should be shipping in the next 4-5 weeks. (Mid-Late November.) Now that we have reached Mid-November, is there any news when and if the KDVR3 will start shipping? I would

Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Mike Cox
Mixing BOTH receivers into BOTH ears is not the same and is simply summing the noise, effectively erasing the advantage of the DX operating a split frequency! I can't speak for SO2R contest operation but I've been using a dual receiver setup for DXing for many years. I initially used separate

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
All, Cross-over audio between the Main and Sub receiver is part of the menu in a FT1000MP from 1996. (as a lot of you people probably know) You can choose it in the menu how you want the audio: seperate, mono-mixed or bit of stereo cross-over. Absolutely wonderful. There have been several other

[Elecraft] UK Elecraft net report for Sunday 16th November

2008-11-16 Thread Dave G4AON
We had a very busy net this week with four new stations. Main topics this week were: The recent AF mod to the K3 and where to obtain RF chokes in the UK (Farnell 1635-800 - not axial or Rapid Electronics 88-2882) We've not measured the space to see if they fit, but are worth considering.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.

2008-11-16 Thread Bill W4ZV
W0CP wrote: I've been disappointed with the audio output from my Heil proset headphones. I've got other headphones around that are more sensitive, but I like boom mic headphones. That's very strange. I have two original Heil Pro-Sets (not the Pro-Set Plus) which must be ~20 years old.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.

2008-11-16 Thread Barry N1EU
My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI 73, Barry N1EU Bill W4ZV wrote: W0CP wrote: I've been disappointed with the audio output from my Heil proset headphones. I've got other

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Perseus SDR as a 2nd RX

2008-11-16 Thread Bill W4ZV
Bob DeHaney wrote: It looks very good, but the Gotcha is that it costs EURO 800 or $1040.00 including tax at the dealer here in Germany. As near as I can tell that's double the cost of the K3 2nd receiver. Also be aware that Blocking Dynamic Range (BDR) for the Perseus is relatively

[Elecraft] K3 / HRD

2008-11-16 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
I'm just in the process of selecting a log program. For that reason I was testing HRD to communicate with my K3. I got it working (at the highest speed) through the (K)USB device (from Prolific). But it's awful slow. When changing the VFO-freq, it might take more then a minute for HRD to

[Elecraft] Farnsworth and keyer memory loading (K3 Wishlist)

2008-11-16 Thread Ken_ke2n
I do not want to bring up the pro's and con's of Farnsworth CW (discussed in many many posts in the elecraft forum, but not specifically in the K3 area). I would just mention that this is a pretty standard technique on EME, to deal with libration fading. I was quite frustated to have to send by

Re: [Elecraft] K3 / HRD

2008-11-16 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
Hi, Sounds like a bad USB = serial driver? What's the operating system, serial COM device etc.? HRD K3 should be *very* fast. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Evert Bakker (PA2KW) When changing the VFO-freq, it might take more then a

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Jim, Unless one is using diversity with phase locked signals, adding the uncorrelated noise from one receiver to the signal from the other receiver reduces the overall s/n. While you may think my use of the term pollution is unnecessarily negative, it is an accurate description.

RE: [Elecraft] Farnsworth and keyer memory loading (K3 Wishlist)

2008-11-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Why wouldn't you just QSZ? That's the time-tested method of getting Morse through during weak/fading sig cdx. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I do not want to bring up the pro's and con's of Farnsworth CW (discussed in many many posts in the elecraft forum, but not specifically in the K3

[Elecraft] Re: Questions from a Liberal Arts Major

2008-11-16 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
Time for me to point to my favorite treatise on crimping vs soldering: http://www.dimebank.com/misc/soldered_connections.html (These days, I crimp, solder the lug end but don't let the solder flow all the way to the wire end, and use heat shrink to prevent flexing. If there is any chance it will

[Elecraft] Re: K1/K2 question

2008-11-16 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
You might have your friend check out the HF SuperPacker Pro. I think Virgil K5OOR is going to be doing a run of these in January. I think Virgil's doing a great job bringing these projects and kits out, but ... I enjoyed building a HFPacker amp, but didn't keep it long. I found that it was

Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Assuming equal volume settings and equal bandwidths in the two receivers, the S/N will degrade by 6 dB (twice the noise voltage). Unless the noise is correlated, the probability density function from summing two random variables causes

Re: [Elecraft] K3 / HRD

2008-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Evert, That is strange. Unless the computer is loaded down with other chores, HRD normally updates very quickly. You may want to check for 'gremlins' in your computer, or other things that are keeping the CPU busy. 73, Don W3FPR Evert Bakker (PA2KW) wrote: I’m just in the process of

[Elecraft] K3 #2184

2008-11-16 Thread John Ronan
Evening, It arrived Friday, opened the box, and nearly died of fright looking at all the little (and not so little packages). Weather wasn't great over the weekend, so I've just finished building it. As my first large Kit, I thought it the instructions were quite good. However i'm stuck

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - How to get more headphone output.

2008-11-16 Thread Bill W4ZV
Barry N1EU wrote: My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill. Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI Just FYI my AF GAIN is set to LO, and I still have plenty of gain. I'm not sure about the actual impedance of my Heils but

RE: [Elecraft] Farnsworth and EME

2008-11-16 Thread Ken_ke2n
Why wouldn't you just QSZ? That's the time-tested method of getting Morse through during weak/fading sig cdx. unquote Believe me, repetition of the call signs is done in the extreme in EME. Each time, the listener tries to keep track of what he *thinks* he heard and eventually builds up a best

Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Mike Cox
From my perspective of 20+ years of doing this, I stand firmly by my statement that having the weak, noisy DX in the middle of my head (both ears) makes it easier for me to copy in conjunction with the pileup noise than copying with the DX out to the left with the pileup noise to the right.

RE: [Elecraft] Farnsworth and EME

2008-11-16 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ken_ke2n wrote: So you send around 15 WPM, trying to get a whole character through between fades. It becomes important to know if you have heard two characters, or one with a hole in the middle. Hence the use of exaggerated character spacing (a.k.a. Farnsworth). That's an interesting

[Elecraft] An Already Built Radio

2008-11-16 Thread scott laughlin
Hi, I'm looking for a good K1 or K2 with 20m and 40m and an internal tuner. Please repond off list. 72 de Scott/n7net/qrp FISTS 8879 SKCC 1964 CTC 1.945 Wireless Pioneers 5706-TA FPQRP 2446 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth and keyer memory loading (K3 Wishlist)

2008-11-16 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Ken_ke2n wrote: I do not want to bring up the pro's and con's of Farnsworth CW (discussed in many many posts in the elecraft forum, but not specifically in the K3 area). I would just mention that this is a pretty standard technique on EME, to deal with libration fading. I was quite frustated

Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Vic K2VCO
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The K3 receivers are better isolated that other dual receiver transceivers. It would be a shame to degrade S/N by adding a mix control when it is relatively easy to do so externally or those who don't mind the hit in S/N. I just tested an experimental feature (I

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Dale Putnam
That feature would be desireable for me... --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:57:19 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The K3 receivers are better

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
So the reduction in SNR (assuming equal noise power) is 3.01 dB, not 6 dB. That's the best case if the noise power is equal. If the other receiver has higher noise power (wider bandwidth, more interfering signals, etc.) the S/N reduction is greater. Even 3 dB reduction in S/N is a big hit

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread NZ8J
I would assume if one didn't want to use the new features ( if they become a reality) you wouldn't have to. I can't imagine it would be an situation that would eliminate the current functionality in favor of something different. Seems like it should please everyone if both options are available.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 #2184

2008-11-16 Thread BigAlT
Option 3 is NOT yet implemented in the firmware. You'll need to use Option 1 or 2. Al WB6HPF John Ronan wrote: Evening, It arrived Friday, opened the box, and nearly died of fright looking at all the little (and not so little packages). Weather wasn't great over the weekend, so

RE: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Dr. James C. Garland
I don't dispute the idea that adding uncorrelated noise degrades the s/n ratio. However, Fred's suggestion, as I understand it, pertained to contesting, not digging a weak DX signal out of the background noise. Typically, in a contest the problem is QRM from many other stations, with the desired

Re: [Elecraft] Mouser part numbers

2008-11-16 Thread michael taylor
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see that this question has been asked in the past, but appears not to have been answered. Can Elecraft share, assuming it has one, its list of Mouser part numbers for the K2 and its options? I believe Elecraft support will

Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth and EME

2008-11-16 Thread Ken_ke2n
well - most built-in keyers have some way to adjust the sending - for example a weight control seems to be the very least that you find on almost every transceiver that features a keyer and this is a Wish List, after all ;-) - Original Message - From: Julian, G4ILO (via Nabble)

[Elecraft] FS: K3 Panadapter plus accessories

2008-11-16 Thread Don Rasmussen
http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html Includes full hardware setup. 1. E-MU0202 USB external soundcard 2. Factory assembled LP-Pan 3. Connecting USB, audio, IF, and power cables. You download the free PowerSDR and Ham Radio Deluxe. This sound card is the LP-Pan suggested full feature card

[Elecraft] K3 Using RFV and dBV

2008-11-16 Thread Kenneth A. Christiansen
the earlier talk about the K3 S meter got me to thinking about a problem I wanted to address. I wanted to use the S meter to track small changes in level. My IC-746 PRO has twice the segments of my K3 but that was not enough either. The K3 S meter is great on the air as I never give anyone a

[Elecraft] WTB: K3

2008-11-16 Thread NZ8J
Looking to buy a late serial number Elecraft K3. Options a plus, especially the second receiver. If you've tried a K3 and found you may want to try something else, let me know what you have; serial number, what the physical and electrical condition is, what options are installed and your best

[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night!

2008-11-16 Thread NAQCC
NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night! This coming Wednesday evening will be the monthly NAQCC Sprint for November, 2008. I will refer you to the proper URL: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/sprint200811.html There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and also a special prize. This

[Elecraft] K1 builder??

2008-11-16 Thread ARDUJENSKI
I was hoping to have the pleasure of building the K1 but my eyesight has diminished to where it is extremely difficult to read the small parts and the board lettering. I would like to hire someone who is experienced at building the K1's to assemble the kit for me so I can at least have

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for November 17th, 2008

2008-11-16 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening, The twenty meter net had some QSB but the forty meter net had QRN, QSB, and it moved rapidly. As you can see by the lists the locals were the only ones I heard except for K4BEH who disappeared into the darkness only moments after he was heard. Kent, K9ZTV, was not strong on

Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3 Panadapter plus accessories

2008-11-16 Thread John Klewer
Includes full hardware setup. 1. E-MU0202 USB external soundcard 2. Factory assembled LP-Pan 3. Connecting USB, audio, IF, and power cables. You download the free PowerSDR and Ham Radio Deluxe. This sound card is the LP-Pan suggested full feature card with better than 160 khz display, allows

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 Antenna Flexibility

2008-11-16 Thread Benny Aumala
Those high priced splitter units ($50) include box and BNC connectors. If you do not want to build from stratch, try this for $14.20 : http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/PSC-2-1.pdf In Europe this is available at Funkamateur for 12 Euros: http://www.box73.de/catalog/ Look for Bauelemente - Sonstige

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-16 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Dave G4AON wrote: Members of the RSGB may wish to sneak a preview of the December RadCom article on SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury receiver and explain why the SDR sounds better than the K3 (noise through a crystal filter causing phase changes). I've read the article