Re: [PSES] Standard or practical guide to grounding electrical products which are not permanently installed

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Do not know why bonding materials/construction would not be in the scoped safety standard. My typical refs for reliable bonding construction requirements/suggestions are: 1. scoped safety standard for the equipment and/or end-use installation. 2. CSA design manual for the scoped standard(s). 3.

[PSES] UL 1699B where art thou

2012-12-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
Anyone on the 1699 STP? Am attempting to determine status of UL1699B. Silence since approx May 2011, and next NEC will probably include both serial and parallel arc detect in article 690. And as typical, the assigned engineer from a well-known 'non-profit' organization will not answer any

Re: [PSES] UL 1699B where art thou

2012-12-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:57 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: UL 1699B where art thou Anyone on the 1699 STP? Am attempting to determine status of UL1699B. Silence since approx May 2011, and next NEC will probably include both serial and parallel arc

Re: [PSES] UL 1699B where art thou

2012-12-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
  +1.970.492.2065 Direct   +1.970.407.5872 Fax   +1.541.312.3832 Main scott.ald...@aei.com 1625 Sharp Point Drive Fort Collins, CO 80525 www.advanced-energy.com/solarenergy -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Thursday, December 13

Re: [PSES] interesting recall by CPSC

2012-12-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
Direct hit, Mr Woodgate. That was point of purpose of my OP. This is not the typical recall of cheap consumer goods from an Asian manufacturer. These people generally know how to design and make safe stuff. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On

Re: [PSES] The Cost of Safety

2012-12-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
I suppose that is more professional and demonstrative than my typical quote from Bugs Bunny, Three Stooges, or Monty Python. Perhaps someone can write a 'Compliance for Idiots and Managers' book? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of

[PSES] interesting recall by CPSC

2012-12-06 Thread Brian Oconnell
The CPSC has issued a re-call for this Dual-Voltage unit for causing fires at 220V www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml13/13022.html. But the rating label indicates an input rating of '100-240'. Also looks like the unit is Class II construction, and that each component is individually powered. Label

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Rated by test certificate and CB report, or by the sales dept-infected spec sheet? That is, what is the rating on the unit's label? You can configure most variacs to provide well above the input voltage, but this may do strange stuff to the source impendence. Use a really really really big

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Have you looked at EN60439-1? Shows on first page of the galactic emperor's search engine. UL508 and UL508A are not safety standards for enclosures. For NEC and ANSI, there is no single standard for enclosure construction, other than for IP stuff. Note UL1773, UL2017, UL60950, etc. That is,

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
| Regulatory Compliance Engineering From: Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 12/03/2012 08:55 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies Rated by test certificate and CB report, or by the sales dept-infected spec sheet? That is, what

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
NEMA standard 250. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Empty electrical enclosures in Europe I admit I don’t know much about this topic, but

Re: [PSES] Recent information from Germany on Once an Article Always an Article

2012-11-28 Thread Brian Oconnell
Did you see this [emphasis is mine]? Disclaimer This information is an interpretation of the Regulations (EC) No. 1907/2006 and / or (EC) No. 1272/2008 by the Federal Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. It has been drawn up with the greatest possible care and is based on sound

Re: [PSES] Recent information from Germany on Once an Article Always an Article

2012-11-28 Thread Brian Oconnell
Must strive to remove lawyers from this process. What is the INTENDED purpose of the REACH directive? To prevent bad stuff from entering your common market? To control concentrations of bad stuff in equipment that will eventually go to a landfill? To control exposure to bad stuff outside of a

Re: [PSES] RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ

2012-11-27 Thread Brian Oconnell
Thank you sir, for this most unkind news. So we have formal report and data requirements, but no approved test method. The European regulators really need to get a life... So what will happen to EN62321 and IEC62476? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ

2012-11-27 Thread Brian Oconnell
KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:10 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ Thank you sir, for this most unkind news. So we have formal report and data

Re: [PSES] Product safety requirements

2012-11-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
Do not necessarily disagree, but there are some problems. Am guessing that this is referencing 29CFR1910.303. Also have this excerpt from an OSHA memo in my database: The testing standard will typically specify how the product is to be marked or labeled and what instructions for installation

Re: [PSES] EN 61000-4-3 for large industrial equipment

2012-11-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
The U.S. and Canada both have 'Fair Use' (wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) allowance of copyrighted material. While the four conditions of Fair Use disallow for-profit activity, the poster of an excerpt from an EMC standard does not benefit and has purchased a copy. As for the U.K. and other such

[PSES] EN62321

2012-11-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
RoHS 2 is not even effective and there are still changes. Was just about to purchase EN62321:2009 when noted that, according to EN50581, it will be replaced by -x series. Upon further examination, find EN62321-3-1 is for screening. Suppose that it is too much to expect that this is a

Re: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier

2012-11-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
, November 14, 2012 12:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 15:28 OHSA allows the recognized lab use of 'engineering judgment' and reference to corporate policy for acceptance

Re: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier

2012-11-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: Re: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier Yes, but what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow? The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:30 PM To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier

2012-11-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
In either case, the NRTL owes you an engineering rationale for their claim of noncompliance. Because Mama said so doesn’t fly. OHSA allows the recognized lab use of 'engineering judgment' and reference to corporate policy for acceptance or rejection of construction. And various instances of

Re: [PSES] Revisions

2012-11-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
The requirement to duplicate version numbers for hardware to software releases is an internal corporate decision, where the only relevance for compliance is that the character string used for the version number be identifiable and unique. Over the years MS, Apple, Cisco, etc have published

Re: [PSES] IEC 60320 Outlet Safety

2012-11-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
Did anyone reply? How about a socratarian reply (a la Gary Tornquist)? For 'safety' relay - do you need EN954 conformity? Is there an implied requirement for a lock-out/positive power control function? SSRs are easy to use, but can be leaky. Is that an issue? Current interrupt devices can be

Re: [PSES] VTM-2 Rated Film - Proper Electrical Barrier

2012-11-02 Thread Brian Oconnell
The NRTL assessment engineer must provide specific requirements via normative clauses of the scoped standard, or a formal corporate policy that has been published. If this person will not or cannot, immediately contact the agency's technical authority for the scope of your equipment. The OSHA NRTL

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Brian Oconnell
As an employee of a power company, am very 'sensitive' to control of procurement process. Build to print is not a big issue, but component procurement has always been a concern. Have just returned from some of employer's Asia factories where a considerable amount of time was spent going through

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Brian Oconnell
components were left out. I cannot believe this is ignorance of the problem. This is pure fraud. Over 100 dBuV output signal between 150 and 1500 kHz !! Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Oconnell

Re: [PSES] Enamel layer of windings in primary of mains transformer or AC motor

2012-10-23 Thread Brian Oconnell
Enameled wire probably does not meet the requirements IEC60950-1, 2.5.10 for BI or RI. Even the Polyurethane/polyamide multiple builds for the MW1000 stuff cannot be considered BI. Hint: look at stuff from Furukawa and Rubadue, and wire having UL2353 and/or IEC60950-1 Annex U certification. And

Re: [PSES] Standard for water hoses

2012-10-23 Thread Brian Oconnell
of my problem is that the hose is a non-homogeneous product, so we're trying to apply VW-1 from UL 1581, which all agencies are heistant to apply to a non-cabling product. Thanks, -Ken On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: PSEN Vol3 No4, Dec 2007

Re: [PSES] Enamel layer of windings in primary of mains transformer or AC motor

2012-10-22 Thread Brian Oconnell
Assesment standard not specified. answer = No - per UL508 and/or UL60950-1, film-coated wire is considered to be an uninsulated live part. Can be considered 'Functional' insulation only where the particular standard or building code allows that construction, and the term has been defined. Brian

Re: [PSES] Standard for water hoses

2012-10-22 Thread Brian Oconnell
PSEN Vol3 No4, Dec 2007 Check PAGs and CTL notices. And your corporate name-sake should have some internal docs on this construction. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of IBM Ken Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:32 PM To:

[PSES] ESD for PV equipment

2012-10-12 Thread Brian Oconnell
product - DC/DC converter module scope - IEC62109-1/UL1741, installed inside combiner box electrical - 200V to 1000Vdc, floating or grounded input; floating or grounded isolated output. 61000-6-1 indicates 61000-4-2 for ESD, and has a test methods for ungrounded equipment. Questions 1. Has any

Re: [PSES] Question about power line harmonics testing

2012-10-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
There is a JIS C 61000-3-2:2011 listed as an approved NVLAP test standard. And I have a VDE-issued EN61000-3-2:2011-06, based on IEC61000-3-2:2005+A1:2008+A2:2009+BugsBunny Probably a typo. But one never knows what lurks in the shadows of EMC standards. Brian -Original Message- From:

Re: [PSES] Meaning of opposite polarity in IEC 61010-1 Ed. 3

2012-09-27 Thread Brian Oconnell
Line to neutral for mains-connected Class I equipment. Line to line for 3-phase equipment. There are additional requirments for Class II equipment. In Texas, opposite polarity represents the different sections serving beer and wine. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Transformer Terminals

2012-09-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
In general, consideration of 'external influences' is defined in 60364-5-51. In particular, note clauses 9, 19 and 23 of 61558-x. Level of touch protection required depends on the IP rating of the component or equipment, and intended end-use of equipment. Remember that peanut butter is not an

Re: [PSES] Transformer Terminals

2012-09-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
. Boss more better happy? Brian -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:16 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: Transformer Terminals In general, consideration of 'external influences' is defined in 60364-5

Re: [PSES] OSHA concerning working safety, which might result in necessary changes in documentation

2012-09-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Requirements added for documentation and training per Hazards Communication Standard. Mostly to harmonize with international stuff. For your viewing pleasure: osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/index.html Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Michael

[PSES] surge test for 1000Vdc system

2012-09-12 Thread Brian Oconnell
Sales says that customers routinely install PV strings with no ground reference. Which means, unless there is an inverter that connects to utility, all is floated. Considering this electrical configuration, would appreciate recommendations for surge immunity test methods for a component that is

Re: [PSES] RoHS Question

2012-09-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
They seem to be the UK body for OIML representation. Do not know what this has to do with enforcement of marking directives. Someone from the other side of the pond needs to explain to the colonists which organizations publish binding opinions. From the website with the URL www.bis.gov.uk/nmo

Re: [PSES] RoHS Question

2012-09-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question In message fab0c87d0c344da498f6ffcd77f4c...@tamuracorp.com, dated Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Brian Oconnell

Re: [PSES] RoHS Question

2012-09-06 Thread Brian Oconnell
Which results in another question. The FAQ states ...CE marking shall be the only marking which attests the conformity of the product with the requirements of RoHS 2. Some customers want a RoHS logo on the label. Would this extra logo be considered a non-conformity under the re-cast directive?

Re: [PSES] EN 1300 accredited test labs?

2012-08-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
A friend that does embedded systems for vault doors said to look at certificates for EN1143 and EN14450 tested products that are used in safes and vaults. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ron Pickard RPQ Sent: Thursday, August 30,

[PSES] another cell phone battery

2012-08-28 Thread Brian Oconnell
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57481932-83/cell-phone-battery-catches-fir e-burns-hackers-tail-at-defcon/ Not able to determine if battery was installed in phone or just sitting in his pocket. And people have criticized me for shorting batteries while sitting in a charge that has no power

Re: [PSES] another cell phone battery

2012-08-28 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: Re: another cell phone battery In message a2626a16374249beaa28b73f8b7da...@tamuracorp.com, dated Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: And people have criticized me for shorting batteries while sitting in a charge that has no power applied. Why do you sit

Re: [PSES] Smart Batteries

2012-08-22 Thread Brian Oconnell
Reference your original thread for this subject back in June. Have done several 'smart' battery charger projects - there does not seem to be a singular definition or scope, and the particular EMC standard depends on the class and type of equipment associated with the charger and/or end-use

Re: [PSES] Smart Batteries

2012-08-22 Thread Brian Oconnell
Ken, For MS461, did you test the batteries as a seperate item, or as part of a charger or the end-use unit? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:55 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re:

Re: [PSES] Commercial Safety Requirments

2012-08-21 Thread Brian Oconnell
I have not do not have experience with rolling-stock ITE. But have done power converters for trailer-mounted ITE systems for semi-permanent static installs. NEC would apply if the intended end-use is a static install at fixed site. NFPA, so far, has only published stuff for EVs and HEVs. In

[PSES] C57.12.91 impulse test lab?

2012-08-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
Good People, Looking for a test lab in Southern California that can do the lightning impulse test per IEEE C57.12.91 on a 500kVA, 3-phase reactor assembly. If customers say 100% production test level - can anyone recomend test equipment? Thanks much, Brian -

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:43 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium In message 1284c8ec9fbe4d24b6397106a3caa...@tamuracorp.com, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Note that the U.S. OSHA has (figuratively) declared war

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-18 Thread Brian Oconnell
Administration formed by the OSHA act of 1970 and as such ONLY has regulatory power as it pertains to the work environment. And while the OSHA act of 1970 is law, CFR29 is not. It has no authority to do more. Thanks -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
'Natural EOL', per term in post by John Pearson, for the EU would have to be codified (in a directive?) because this tends to vary from one CAB to another. Many agencies immediately withdraw the cert when version of the standard used in the test report is obsoleted by OJ. More laws? For North

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
' ;-) Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:44 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EC vs EU suffix Conformité Européenne -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Marking Provoqium which only applies to the work place. From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 16:09 29 CFR 1910 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc

Re: [PSES] EC vs EU suffix

2012-08-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
Conformité Européenne -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Doug Powell Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:30 PM To: peter_kelle...@dell.com Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EC vs EU suffix And the CE mark, what happens to it?

Re: [PSES] NOM approval for ITE equipment

2012-08-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
I am certain that Ted has much more consumer-product experience, but for the simple ITE (typically component power conversion stuff) that I submit, do not have to use NOM019 and can certify to ANSI60950-1 or CSA No.60950-1-07. Probably relatively easy for me, because we have factory in TJ, so I

Re: [PSES] Ergonomics Aspects - arrangement of TERMINALS in IEC 61010:2010

2012-07-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
Doug, Your analysis is logical and could be used in the Technical File. But the HMI meaning of a 'terminal' as a data display is previously listed in item 'b', so the TC's intent is not clear and could also be interpreted to indicate the affected electrical connector. There are ergonomic

[PSES] PTC certifications

2012-07-25 Thread Brian Oconnell
Noted several PTC with operating voltage rating that was duplicated in the agency file, but no agency file has any reference to the interrupt or fault voltage rating. But both CSA TIL CA-3A UL1434 seem to have a reverse-V rating, which is never referenced in their specs. Also be careful with the

Re: [PSES] EMI software using Agilent 8564E

2012-07-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Interesting. Have you used these drivers for other than immunity tests? The boss wants me to 'convert' my stuff from Linux to Windoze - could this save me the associated pain and agony and inexorable passage of time? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Insulative barriers deposited on metal surfaces

2012-07-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Some UL and CSA standards spec up to min 3mm of ceramic material for use as insulation from haz V. And some safety stds have no min thikness for ceramic stuff. And you can infer from temperature tables in various standards that ceramics can be considered supp or rein insulation. But I am not

Re: [PSES] Packaging requirements

2012-07-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
WEEE, RoHS, 66/2010/EC, 2009/48/EC, EN 71-1, etc U.S. FDA FTC ASTM D5445 ISO 780 WTO google/bing/yahoo is your friend, and your 60 seconds have expired. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of jacob.glee...@eu.panasonic.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [PSES] EMI software using Agilent 8564E

2012-07-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
HP published some VEE stuff and HP basic library in early 90s, and National had LV and LW libraries. Probably too old for Tiles. Gonna cost you in time and/or dev tools. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of emcp...@aol.com Sent: Monday,

[PSES] UL1741 - IEC62109-1

2012-07-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
Amazing to behold - UL just published a CSDS proposal issued to adopt IEC62109-1 in lieu of UL1741. Anyone know if CSA will follow, or am I destined to continue chasing 3 to 4 safety standards for one silly little box? Brian -

Re: [PSES] EMI software using Agilent 8564E

2012-07-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
. Donald Borowski EMC Compliance Engineer From: Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Date: 07/16/2012 10:44 AM Subject:RE: EMI software using Agilent 8564E Sent by:emc-p...@ieee.org HP published some VEE stuff and HP basic library

Re: [PSES] Date of cessation of 60601-1 edition 2 in EU

2012-07-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
FWIW, I had same problem when one CAB said that I had to update to 3d ed and another CAB said no, because there is a collateral standard that affects the transition date. The latter engineer was also the medical engineering manager for this agency, and said that he would implore the convenor for

Re: [PSES] Original Signed Reports Versus Digital Scanned Reports for EMC Technical Files

2012-07-10 Thread Brian Oconnell
Dependence on the long-term stability of proprietary data formats is a big subject. Very Big. I am the Master Blaster of process automation, but I believe that current systems for long-term digital data storage, other than ANSI text, have no efficacy. I am not referring to 20 or 200 years, but

Re: [PSES] First Impressions - Rigol DSA815 Spectrum Analyzer

2012-07-06 Thread Brian Oconnell
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. What is the chance of connecting to an antenna in a 10m chamber with a comb gen then comparing to another receiver ? Other people with test/review ideas for Mr. Wyatt? I will have 3 or 4 hours of chamber time in two weeks. If ya wanna and are in s.cal, can

Re: [PSES] Impact on NRTL Certification - Refurbished/Remanufactured Products

2012-07-05 Thread Brian Oconnell
Within the meaning of OSHA requirements 29CFR1910 - no effect if no change was made to the design, materials, or performance as compared to the NRTL-certified model from the factory. According to OSHA: These product changes, even if inadvertent, void the NRTL's approval for that product, and an

[PSES] OSHA - NRTL audit question

2012-07-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Was at an NRTL/CAB site yesterday. Noted a small group lurking - assessment engineer said they were part of an OSHA audit team. I recognized one member of the audit team from another NRTL down the road. Does the U.S. OSHA use NRTLs to audit each other? Brian -

Re: [PSES] OSHA - NRTL audit question

2012-07-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
are under to oversight of OSHA, although I was not aware they would do field surveys like this. See: http://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/ -- Thanks, -doug Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com

Re: [PSES] Interview Questions

2012-07-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Pre-screens that attempt to minimize consumption of a candidates' time is a good thing. What if the candidate logs in to answer one or two questions that evaluate engineering judgment and/or problem solving? Perhaps you have to consider that the knowledge of... stuff cannot be used as a

Re: [PSES] Interview Questions

2012-07-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Japan, and some Carribean stuff - does knowledge of this fact make me a better compliance person? No. And a voltage switch is NOT necessarily required. Think auto-switch power supplies. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of IBM Ken Sent:

Re: [PSES] calculate to IEC62493 Factor F

2012-06-29 Thread Brian Oconnell
Annex D -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Youngsik Kim Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:40 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: calculate to IEC62493 Factor F Hi. All How to calculate IEC62493 factor F? -

Re: [PSES] database

2012-06-29 Thread Brian Oconnell
Did this, and more. Offered to open-source on this forum if someone would be admin. No takers. Codebase now belongs to employer. Synopsis of what was done and tools used. 0. Python and SQLite 1. Webcrawler using Spyder 2. RSS feed using Google Reader API and pyrfeed 3. Data parser using

Re: [PSES] database

2012-06-29 Thread Brian Oconnell
I agree with Ed Price - use a spreadsheet with well-documented formatting unless you have a really good reason not to - from a person that has wasted 2 days automating a 15 min process that is done twice per year. OpenOffice and LibreOffice are available for Mac, Win, and Linux. The 'Calc' and

Re: [PSES] low voltage/communication wire

2012-06-25 Thread Brian Oconnell
Low Voltage could indicate 1500V, so am not certain. BS5839-1 if part of alarm or fire detect system. And BS7671/IEC60364 in general. Depends on routing of adjacent wire/cable and ratings of all equipment connected to cable. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-18 Thread Brian Oconnell
Brian, I have forwarded your message to the sales director and production manager. They, and others, oft accuse me of intransigent (but typically use many additional descriptive terms). We all make mistakes, but they must be recoverable and not fatal. Component power supplies - you get what you

Re: [PSES] Made in PRC or Made in China?

2012-06-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
According to several SGS and UL publications, which I cannot send because of copyright, Saudi Arabia does not allow abbreviations for country of origin on product label. Reference was Saudi Law of Commercial Data, No. M/5-14 Rabi' II 1423H. We make some of our stuff in TJ, and their import people

Re: [PSES] Test lab for testing power equipment at high altitude

2012-06-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
Wow, I am impressed. Do you also have to hi-pot at 5km? I remember that Dayton Brown has a 10x20 chamber, but am not certain if they have the power you need. Labs that do RTCA tests typically do the explosive decompression by evac to much larger chamber, so they may have the volume. Perhaps the

Re: [PSES] Lithium Batteries and EMC

2012-06-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
There are several directives where the CE mark would be required - depends on end-use equipment/environment and battery capacity. Apply EMC directive to the battery itself where uControllers is embedded, otherwise, the EMCD/tests are applied to the charger where specific battery models are

Re: [PSES] Lithium Batteries and EMC

2012-06-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
'CE' mark on batteries, for this moment in time, should only make reference to the EMC directive. Where the battery must be considered I/S, and is intended for use in non-ordinary locations, then it is included as part of the investigation on the end-use equipment. 62133 - not harmonized - no CE

Re: [PSES] SMART GRID INTEROPERABILITY PANEL

2012-06-06 Thread Brian Oconnell
, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Was looking at some publications by the 'Smart Grid Testing Certification Committee'. Any comments on why the NIST seems to be driving this and not an IEC WG? It's a BIG bandwagon, and everyone is trying to get on it. IEC IS working on it. http

[PSES] SMART GRID INTEROPERABILITY PANEL

2012-06-05 Thread Brian Oconnell
Was looking at some publications by the 'Smart Grid Testing Certification Committee'. Any comments on why the NIST seems to be driving this and not an IEC WG? YALON - yet another layer of NBs Brian - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] 100 megohm test

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Oconnell
Insulation Resistance test NOT same as di-electric withstand. Classic instrument often refered to as 'megger'. IR tests are typically done at lower test V than D/E withstand. Depending on rating of components, IR test voltages can be applied anywhere the insulation quality must be quantified, and

Re: [PSES] 100 megohm test

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Oconnell
There are IEC standards where the TC issued interpretations where a min IR was specified for some components that bridge mains. Various IR test methods are common for North American standards - for example, UL/CSA2556 says The megohmeter or megohm bridge shall be connected to the specimen and the

Re: [PSES] Off the shelf or brick smps

2012-05-21 Thread Brian Oconnell
Caveat - my employer makes smps, but no longer makes 'brick' power supplies. 1. I have two typical setups for emissions tests, both attached directly to output connector pins or terminals. a. c/c load using bipolar with zener from ps to base and some bias resistors b. pure resistor load 2. Out of

Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world

2012-05-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
I have had conversations with a UL manager and a European IECEE member about standards cost; and both people indicated zero level of concern. To quote George Burns, No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. I understand that there are costs to bear by the WGs and TCs that do this

Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world

2012-05-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
-Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:13 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world I have had conversations with a UL manager

Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world

2012-05-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:19 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world UL does not sell standards, it uses the entity incorporated as 'COMM 2000' to sell

Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world

2012-05-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
engineer - maybe we can write a better requirement that reflects real-world conditions, with test conditions having repeatable results. manager - maybe these engineers can come up with new requirements that will force everyone to buy new standards and more lab time. -Original Message-

Re: [PSES] e-standard.org The cheapest standards in the world

2012-05-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
Have no experience with the people associated with this URL. Unknown copyright status and possible at-risk financial info if you purchase. DNS and trace indicates located in China. Bounces through several proxies. Flaky implementation of Zen Cart. Any other transaction experience with this site?

Re: [PSES] Circuit breakers in Europe

2012-05-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Not certain what OP is attempting, as wire gage is dependent on the fault calc found in electric code, and breaker rating is related to the distribution. So will guess that this may relate to breaker-fuse coordination - IEC60947-4-1, which was discussed in previous thread. If about difference

Re: [PSES] Circuit breakers in Europe

2012-05-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Circuit breakers in Europe From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 08:36 Not certain what OP is attempting, as wire gage is dependent on the fault calc found in electric code, and breaker rating

[PSES] FW: static mats

2012-04-27 Thread Brian Oconnell
The life of compliance engineers. Will not post my reply to this, suffice to say that I quoted Worf and Bugs Bunny... -Original Message- From: To: Brian O'Connell Cc: Subject: FW: static mats Hi Brian, has a lot of electric discharge from her person and gets shocked quite

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-24 Thread Brian Oconnell
For automotive stuff (ISO10605), I have to be careful about bleeding charge after each iteration because test level = 25kV. I use a 470k Resistor attached in series with a short braid that is screwed into the ref plane, and touch the UUT. The strap is used for discharge only and is not attached

[PSES] lab for impulse test

2012-04-24 Thread Brian Oconnell
Looking for a southern california lab that can do impulse test per IEEEC57.12.01/IEC60076 on a reactor coil with 1100Vac rated working voltage. thanks much, Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

[PSES] safety standard for PV-related stuff

2012-04-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
IEC site says that TC22 has voted yes on IEC62477-1 Nov 2011, but still waiting. EN62103 has scope that I need, but not published in LVD. And the usual suspects of 61730, 61646, 61215, 50521, and 50548 not correct for my stuff. EU equivalilant of UL1741/UL1012 for stuff in combiner box that is

Re: [PSES] safety standard for PV-related stuff

2012-04-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
item on TC82's docket. For now, the guts would be subjected to whatever the guts normally would if the guts were components used elsewhere. Regards, Peter L. Tarver From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 14:30 IEC site says that TC22 has voted yes on IEC62477-1 Nov 2011, but still

Re: [PSES] Kuwait regulations

2012-04-18 Thread Brian Oconnell
I am not a panel. I am not an expert. But I did control the spurt that was emitted from a panel. google Kuwait conformity assurance scheme. google KUCAS product list. google Bugs Bunny. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Gartman,

Re: [PSES] US FCC 47 CFR Part 15 for trickle charging device?

2012-04-16 Thread Brian Oconnell
Bing, Yahoo, Google Class A? Class B? Will it be used on Jupiter or Uranus? OET BULLETIN 62 47CFR15.103 -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Inken Green Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:59 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: US FCC 47 CFR Part 15

Re: [PSES] US MIL-STD

2012-04-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
Depending on your corporate IT policy, many DoD/DLA (.mil) sites may be blocked because of invalid security certs. This is reasonable, as it is a common 'man-in-the-middle' exploit to use expired certs. And many government sites are not kept updated. Brian -Original Message- From:

Re: [PSES] ad code injection?

2012-04-10 Thread Brian Oconnell
Various services have been doing ad-injection for at least five years so not new - first noticed it around 2006. In fact, there are wordpress utilities that do ad injection for bloggers. The bad stuff will probably not come until you click on the 'extra' banner. Some easy notebook mitigation to do

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