[PSES] EN 62133 2013

It said this standard comes in force in July 2016. Which directive does this standard fall into it? With regards to cl 8.3.9 forced internal short circuit in cells, what is rationale for this as a country specific test only? Thanks and regards, Scott - --

Re: [PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply

gt; Standards have additional requirements for outdoor use, usually half the > accessible voltage and half the accessible current, for both normal and > single-fault conditions. The assumption is that the product will be used > in a wet environment. > > > > > > Rich >

Re: [PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply

or household and similar > electrical appliances - particular requirements for battery chargers. > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Scott Xe wrote: > >> I notice a warning “For indoor use only” and a its symbol on the EPS, but >> not a must on on portable units. What do

[PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply

I notice a warning “For indoor use only” and a its symbol on the EPS, but not a must on on portable units. What does it mean and which standard does mandate it? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product S

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

Nick, Appreciate your helpful info & comments! Regards, Scott > On 1 Apr, 2016, at 11:43 pm, Nick Williams > wrote: > > Scott, > >> On 1 Apr 2016, at 15:18, Scott Xe wrote: >> >> Dear David, >> >> Will the EU enforcement body use thi

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

//eur-lex.europa.eu/homepage.html?locale=en> > > Best regards, > David > > David K. Bell > Senior Regulatory Compliance Engineer > Milestone AV Technologies > > david.b...@milestone.com <mailto:david.b...@milestone.com> > +1.952.225.6782 > > > On Fri, Ap

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

etermine if > a product poses a serious risk and should therefore be withdrawn from the > market and notified to other EU member states via the EU RAPEX rapid alert > system. Any risk analysis that we do to satisfy the requirements of the new > LV and EMC Directives should be

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

> Senior Regulatory Compliance Engineer > Milestone AV Technologies > > david.b...@milestone.com <mailto:david.b...@milestone.com> > +1.952.225.6782 > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Scott Xe <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: > There are two

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

There are two major changes in new LVD. One is the risk assessment that is to be the obligation for the manufacturers. The other one is that the DoC is required to have object of declaration. The risk assessment is unclear how to do it and any reference to follow. Currently there is few test

Re: [PSES] Ambient temperature

wer. > > The Other Brian > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 8:37 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Ambient temperature > > We would like to verify the temperature rise

[PSES] Ambient temperature

We would like to verify the temperature rise at 40 degC ambient temperature. The sample under test was placed in a temperature chamber set at 40 degC. The internal temperatures were close but the external temperatures were marked different and even lower than the room temperature without using

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

eg. Of course, Arrhenius had something to say about this... > > In any case, just calculate power dissipation for the diode, then use to calc > the Tj. This will be your 'sanity check'. > > Brian > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott.

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

ature of 120 degC..." > has no >> meaning. Test conditions and component ID? A Tj > of >> 150deg does not mean that you are allowed 150deg > on the >> component body. TI, ST, and others have > published some >> good stuff on calculating component temps for &

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

; good. > > Some glue the thermocouple up slightly from the end and then use thermal > paste on the end. It is messy and we didn't really see much difference in > our test results. > > The Other Brian > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailt

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

of charge here: > http://www.iecee.org/Operational_documents/iecee_documents/od-5012_ed.1.0.pdf > <http://www.iecee.org/Operational_documents/iecee_documents/od-5012_ed.1.0.pdf> > > -Ken A. > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Scott Xe <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> w

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

power dissipation for the diode, then use to calc > the Tj. This will be your 'sanity check'. > > Brian > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:53 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

the end and then use thermal > paste on the end. It is messy and we didn't really see much difference in > our test results. > > The Other Brian > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:53 AM > To: EM

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

f you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-26-16 8:53 AM > To: EMC-P

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

see much difference in > our test results. > > The Other Brian > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:53 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Reliable means to attach therm

Re: [PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

imple Loctite and eccelerator for quick application, a dip of > thermal transfer paste would also be good for good concise measurements. > > Rodney Davis > > From: Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016

[PSES] Reliable means to attach thermocouple to object

I used to attach thermocouple to the object under temperature rise test using Kapton tape. Currently I looked at an SMPS that is operating at a temperature of 120 degC under an ambient temperature of 20 degC. The tape seems not very reliable and rigid enough for long period of testing. Is the

Re: [PSES] Bluetooth audio product

Hi Ian, Apart from R&TTE/RED, you need to verify your product meeting ErP Directive in standby/off mode as well since your product is powered over ethernet. Regards, Scott > On 9 Feb, 2016, at 4:43 pm, McBurney, Ian > wrote: > > Dear Colleagues. > > I

Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

ly, so are > lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled > wirable plugs. > > I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK > plugs. > > > Rich > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

t; > > Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more > reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs. > > I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs. > > > Rich > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Xe [ma

[PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable except UK plugs. Are they required by law, applicable standard or cost efficiency? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-ps

Re: [PSES] Updated ECHA REACH guidance

Articles” document - which I hope addresses many of the > practical fine point details. > > I completely agree that “it should have a transition period” but I have no > idea yet whether, in effect, it will get one. > > > Lauren Crane > KLA-Tencor > > From: S

Re: [PSES] Updated ECHA REACH guidance

Hi Lauren, Does the amendment become effective immediately? ECHA just amended the guidance document after a couple of months. Does EU need to amend the regulation later? Would it be a big impact on the existing compliance per product. Probably a lot of products become non-conformity due to

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 clause 8.17 TIW

> mechanical protection. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards > Bostjan > > > On 22. jan. 2016, at 17.41, Scott Xe > mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Bostjan, > > Today, I checked a couple of this type of products. It seems they ad

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 clause 8.17 TIW

st to avoid stress on insulation > of TIW. The problem is mechanical stress which could by some time damage the > wire insulation. > > Two TIW in contact is not a problem. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > Bostjan > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott.

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 clause 8.17 TIW

Hi Rich, Thanks for your sharing history of the standard. Today, I checked the latest version, 2014 that remains this requirement in 2002 version after 12 years. Obviously the standard has no change since day one. We may move to the new/future standard but current market surveillances are st

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 clause 8.17 TIW

Hi Rich, This clause is for TIW winding, otherwise how can the 3-layer interleaved insulation be avoided. Regards, Scott > On 22 Jan, 2016, at 4:47 am, Richard Nute > wrote: > > > > Hi Scott: > > > The standard is written assuming enamel winding wire insulation

[PSES] EN 60065 clause 8.17 TIW

In modern SMPS, the windings of transformer are using TIW in order to make it miniature and simplify the manufacturing process. In clause 8.17, there is following requirement. Where two insulated wires or one bare and one insulated wire are in contact inside a wound component, crossing each ot

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

for outdoor use equipment. Regards, Scott > On 23 Dec, 2015, at 12:40 am, IBM Ken wrote: > > Hi Scott, I don't have any experience in this area but have you looked at > 60950-22? > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Scott Xe <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrot

[PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

It is my first time to test an audio product for outdoor use. The product is powered by rechargeable lithium batteries and primarily used indoors but can be used occasionally for outdoor picnics and/or parties. Traditionally, we use EN 60065 for safety evaluation. Is there any specific safety

Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

dy be doing. Or it > could refer to actual product audits, which I am highly in favor of but many > companies do not bother with; except for the factory inspections performed by > 3rd party certification houses. If and how you do sample testing of > production to insure you are shipp

Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

uses. If and how you do sample testing of > production to insure you are shipping compliant products will vary from > company to company depending on many factors and can only really be > determined by the manufacturer. > > I hope this was helpful. > > The Other Brian >

Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

st. Most of suppliers are running on ISO 9000 QMS. They are doing the routine test on production line 100% and sampling check as part of quality assurance program. It sounds the new directive would like to kick some worse suppliers who did not do any checking on production line. > >

Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

DocsRoom/documents/13141/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/pdf > > regards > Charlie > > -----Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: 30 November 2015 13:47 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/

[PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

There are 3 additional requirements as compared with existing one. The technical documentation shall include an adequate analysis and assessment of the risk(s). What is objective and scope for these? Do these analysis and assessment refer to 3rd party verification of compliance with applicable

Re: [PSES] Arc flash to earthed parts

d on your description, I would hypothesize that the switch contact > resistance was high; the switch is worn out, or has inadequate ratings. > > I don't know of any standard that would address this issue. The situation is > analyzed by science and engineering, and appropriate

Re: [PSES] Arc flash to earthed parts

gt; construction to prevent recurrence. > > > Good luck and best regards, > Rich > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 11:22 PM >> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV

[PSES] Arc flash to earthed parts

Dear Members, I recently encountered a symptom on a toaster. When turning off by pressing the quit button, there was an arc flash from the mains switch contacts to earthed parts where the separation greater than 1 inch apart in air occasionally. The mains contacts have a sign of carbonisation

[PSES] Recycle mark on plastic bags/parts

Most of plastic bags/parts have the recycle mark on them. Do they require by any regulation? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a messag

Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU

RED, but not into EMC or LVD, so equipment that is currently R&TTE, but > not RED has to, in theory, comply with EMC/LVD “overnight” > > Regards > Charlie > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>] > Sent: 2

Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU

tion and Skills at UK seminar earlier this year) > > Regards > Charlie > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: 21 August 2015 16:53 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Direc

[PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU

Hi All, The captioned directives will be enforced on 20 April 2016 with no transition period. As of today, no accredited laboratories accept the compliance verification to those directive until 20 April 2016. They claim they cannot test to those directives until 20 April 2016 as per the direc

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealand’s mains voltage

; AUS-TICK > 281 Lawrence Rd > Mt Waverley > Vic 3149 > Australia > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 2015 12:30 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subj

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

stomer that ships stuff to Aus/NZ rate their box for 200-240V. > > Brian > > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:08 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage > > Hi All, >

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

cally 240V, but > as you get towards interior, expect somewhere between 218 and 250V; and a > customer that ships stuff to Aus/NZ rate their box for 200-240V. > > Brian > > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:08 AM > To: EMC-P

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

et towards interior, expect somewhere between 218 and 250V; and a > customer that ships stuff to Aus/NZ rate their box for 200-240V. > > Brian > > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:08 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >

[PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

Hi All, Australia has changed to 230 Vac from 240 Vac in 1980 in line with the IEC deciding to rationalise the 220V, 230V and 240V nominal voltage levels around the world to a consistent 230V. The voltage tolerance has been changed to +10/-6% due to this change so Australia did not need to do

Re: [PSES] LVD & EMC for Greece

en be depicted in images that require no translation. > > Regards, > Ted > > The opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of my > employer. > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Saturday

Re: [PSES] LVD & EMC for Greece

.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:56 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] LVD & EMC for Greece > > Get payment in advance before shipping product? :-D > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Scott Xe <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: &

Re: [PSES] LVD & EMC for Greece

Hi Ken, Yes, our commercial team will address the payment issue. Thanks for your kind advice. Regards, Scott > On 12 Jul, 2015, at 2:56 am, IBM Ken <mailto:ibm...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Get payment in advance before shipping product? :-D > > On Sat, Jul 11, 20

[PSES] LVD & EMC for Greece

Understand Greece is a member of EU and they should follow the EU directives. Is there any specific requirement from Greece? If so, could you point me to where to get the detail in specific requirements. Thanks and regards, Scott -

[PSES] Arrow width of energy efficiency class in energy label

There is an inconsistency between the label sample and the text of energy efficiency class in Annex V of 1062/2010 regulation. The label example shows 16 mm width whereas the text states 26 mm. It believes the text width is incorrect. The same error exists in other delegated regulations such

Re: [PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 & Consumer Protection Act 1987

and so > on, as well as those related to generally beefing up consumer protection. > > John Allen > W.London, UK > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: 10 May 2015 06:41 > To: John Allen > Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >

Re: [PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 & Consumer Protection Act 1987

are often then modified and enhanced by > subsidiary REGULATIONS published later - and that has certainly happened to > a great extent w.r.t. the CPA in order to improve "consumer protection" ! > > Regards > > John Allen > W.London, UK > > -Original Messa

[PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 & Consumer Protection Act 1987

Hello All, Are these two Acts still valid or have been replaced by others after EU was established? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a

Re: [PSES] Earth symbols required in clause 7 marking & instructions of EN 60335-1

Hi John, Thanks for your kind advice! Scott > On 2 Apr, 2015, at 11:09 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message , dated Thu, 2 Apr > 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> Thanks for the latest information. Can 5017 be used to indicate a >> functional earth as 5018 is

Re: [PSES] Earth symbols required in clause 7 marking & instructions of EN 60335-1

Hi John, Thanks for the latest information. Can 5017 be used to indicate a functional earth as 5018 is rarely used in EU products. Scott > On 2 Apr, 2015, at 2:32 am, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message , dated Wed, 1 Apr > 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> I received

[PSES] Earth symbols required in clause 7 marking & instructions of EN 60335-1

The standard calls for IEC 60417 for the symbols. Currently there are 3 symbols to serve different purposes. 1. IEC 60417 - 5017: General earthing 2. IEC 60417 - 5018: Functional earthing 3. IEC 60417 - 5019: Protective earthing 5017 is being proposed to be withdrawn according to IEC discussion

Re: [PSES] WEEE symbol

False, although I have learnt the same from a few sources, so far I cannot find the official statement to support it. I assume it is not mixed with similar symbol for batteries. Scott > On 7 Mar, 2015, at 3:14 am, Gary McInturff > wrote: > > The symbol ha

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

ote: > > In message , dated Sat, 21 > Feb 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> It seems the class I is determined by the mains connection to the mains cord >> otherwise I cannot consider how the product is classified as class I. > > As I wrote before, the Class is determin

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

Hi Rich & Brian, Although we talked a lot of safety insulation construction of each class, the class I product can have class II insulation construction. I notice the sub-clause 3.2 of EN 60065 as below:- Apparatus designed to be fed from the mains shall be constructed according to the requir

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

Hi Rich, If the product is constructed as per sub-clause 7.3.2.2 (I have observed a few cases on audio or video products), can the whole product be correctly classified as class I apparatus as it requires earth connection? If it has to be classified as Class I, the source of issue if whether th

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

II and thus class I. The unit itself should meet the safety requirements but constructed abnormally. Scott > On 19 Feb, 2015, at 11:46 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message , dated Thu, 19 > Feb 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> In both EN 60065 and EN 60950-1, the earth

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

ate wrote: > > In message > , > dated Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> . The designer wants the testing house to classify the product as class I >> appliance by using 3-pin connectors, 3-core mains cord, 3-pin mains plug >> without any connection of

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

e conductive parts should be double-insulated > from mains (Class II construction). Otherwise, the kettle is Class 0 > construction with a Class I mains cord and connector. > > > > > > Rich > > > > *From:* Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Tues

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

hed or is PE earthed. If the > PE test is applied to the FE, the FE is likely to > fail. Such a test result will fail equipment > safety testing as well as destroy the equipment. > > > Enjoy! > Rich > > > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mai

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

Yes, they are all operating at 230 Vac for European markets. The examples are of SMPSs: one for external power supply connecting to the main unit and other one is built-in type of sub-woofer. > On 18 Feb, 2015, at 4:17 am, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message , dated Tue, 17 Feb 2015, John >

Re: [PSES] Class 1 appliances

determined as class 1 construction. Regards, Scott > On 18 Feb, 2015, at 1:04 am, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message <85124d15-dc54-4dba-b4e5-34c49b2d0...@gmail.com>, dated Wed, 18 > Feb 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> I have seem a couple of appliances that classified in

[PSES] Class 1 appliances

I have seem a couple of appliances that classified in its compliant report as class 1 appliance without any connection to the earth pin of 3-pin kettle male IEC connector. Under this construction, the earth continuity measurement is infinitive. What is main purpose for the 3-core mains cord an

Re: [PSES] Amendments of EN standard

; 60xxx & 55xxx. That means CENELEC amendments to: > EN 50xxx standards start at A1 > EN 60xxx & EN 55xxx standards start at A11. > > Pat > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Scott Xe wrote: >> Thanks! Did you mean CENELEC's amendment from A11 for standard

Re: [PSES] Amendments of EN standard

Thanks! Did you mean CENELEC's amendment from A11 for standard no, 6 and A1 for standard no, 5? Regards, Scott > On 31 Jan, 2015, at 2:11 am, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message <30kyfuxz57yuf...@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, dated Fri, 30 Jan 2015, John > Woodgate writes: > >> >> Yes, unle

Re: [PSES] Amendments of EN standard

Are A1 to A9 also applied to EN standards? Scott > On 31 Jan, 2015, at 12:34 am, John Woodgate wrote: > > In message , dated Sat, 31 > Jan 2015, Scott Xe writes: > >> I notice the amendments of EN standard are normally either A1, A2.. or A11, >> A12… Do they

[PSES] Amendments of EN standard

I notice the amendments of EN standard are normally either A1, A2.. or A11, A12… Do they have different indications? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussio

[PSES] Networked standby regulation EU 801/2013

Networked standby means a condition in which the equipment is able to resume a function by way of a remotely initiated trigger from a network connection. Based on this definition, the following fall into the regulated area. 1. Wake-on via IR/Bluetooth/Wifi remote control - the most common way

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

mitigate by saying something along the > lines of "not for use for any other purpose..." > > > Thanks, - doug > > Douglas Powell > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 > Original Message > From: Scott Xe > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:51 AM > To: E

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

IMO the CD-ROM/Cup holder is abuse whereas metal fork is a foreseeable misuse (less people uses plastic fork in a hot toaster). Scott > On 18 Oct, 2014, at 6:25 am, Ted Eckert wrote: > > The CD-ROM/Cup Holder issue is something to consider. However, this comes > back to what is a "reasonable

[PSES] Misuse mains cordset

We have an audio product that comes with an external power supply. The external power supply uses a detachable cordset. The cordset consists of a 2-pin 16A European Schuko plug, a cable of 0.75mm2 wires and a 10A kettle connector. This cordset is capable of delivering 6A current according to

Re: [PSES] IEC CTL decisions

Thanks Pete for details. I will cheek it out the local relevant body. Scott On 9 Oct, 2014, at 1:42 am, Pete Perkins wrote: > Scott, et al, > > Sorry for the use of an unfamiliar acronym. > > NC means 'National Committee'. Any country which is a member of the > ISO/IEC/CISPR

Re: [PSES] IEC CTL decisions

Hi Pete, Thanks for your reply. What is NC? Is it open to public? Where I can get greater detail. Regards, Scott On 8 Oct, 2014, at 12:30 am, Pete Perkins wrote: > Scott & PSNetters, > > You seem to understand the role of CTL in implementing the product > evaluation according to t

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

Note: The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not > necessarily represent those of any company I work for. > > On 10/3/2014 12:42 PM, Mike Sherman - Original Message - wrote: >> Good summary of what I know is here: >> http://www.lexology.c

[PSES] IEC CTL decisions

I find the CTL decision sheets are helpful to interpret the IEC standards. As a new user, I am not sure how it enforces the DSHs in testing laboratories. Does any expert here shed some light on it? What are the key differences in terms of enforcement between PDSH and DSH? As the notification

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

have been visiting China often in last 20 years, I notice the changes in every trip. Scott On 4 Oct, 2014, at 7:51 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > In message , dated Sat, 4 Oct > 2014, Scott Xe writes: > >> Tsing-tao beer was originated from Germany. If you have been visiting Qing

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

Thanks for your update. Lets see how to get on the final result. Scott On 4 Oct, 2014, at 2:42 am, msherma...@comcast.net wrote: > Good summary of what I know is here: > http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=ff7bd38f-0f81-4e5f-94c7-a16d3d05368d > > From: "Scott Xe&

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

It is a practical issue to be resolved in drafting the new EU law as EU has more than one legal language and not everyone knows English. Scott On 4 Oct, 2014, at 3:32 am, John Woodgate wrote: > In message > <64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026BAAEA@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>, dated > Fri,

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU > > Good summary of what I know is here: > http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=ff7bd38f-0f81-4e5f-94c7-a16d3d05368d > > From: "Scott Xe" > To: "EMC-PSTC"

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

Most of consumers rely on the brand rather than country of manufacturing. The country does not have direct management of quality of product but the brand is managing the supply chain and have the authority to manage the quality of products. If the consumers do not like the products manufacture

Re: [PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

Tsing-tao beer was originated from Germany. If you have been visiting Qing Dao (Tsing-tao) you will notice the impact from Germany before. Scott On 4 Oct, 2014, at 6:05 am, John Woodgate wrote: > In message > <27617dab1fd74e269ea7e5bdb6918...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> > , dated

[PSES] "Made in" labelling in the EU

I have learnt that EP is working on a new law of origin marking proposed by consumer product safety and market surveillance and going to be in force next year. There should not be no direct relationship with product safety but may improve the traceability of products. Does anyone know when the

Re: [PSES] Batteries & rechargeable batteries storage & transportation

g as well. Scott On 20 Sep, 2014, at 6:36 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > In message <8aa3d9da-640b-4362-9592-c04ff10b9...@gmail.com>, dated Sat, 20 > Sep 2014, Scott Xe writes: > >> Nordic region & UK. > > OK, so European regulations apply, including RoHS and WEEE,

Re: [PSES] Batteries & rechargeable batteries storage & transportation

Nordic region & UK. Scott On 20 Sep, 2014, at 2:51 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > In message <3a1ae49f-e2e5-4d2e-99fd-225ef0507...@gmail.com>, dated Sat, 20 > Sep 2014, Scott Xe writes: > >> We have a customer requesting safety compliant but unclear what the exact &g

[PSES] Batteries & rechargeable batteries storage & transportation

Dear All, We have a customer requesting safety compliant but unclear what the exact requirements. The products include standalone batteries and rechargeable battery pack in the products. As far as i know, battery directive 2006/66/EC and product safety directive are legal requirements for the

[PSES] Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol

Dear All, I have learnt that in near future, the black bar below the crossed-out wheeled bin symbol will be removed similar to the one used in battery directive. Have anyone heard the same? Thanks and regards, Scott On 12 Sep, 2014, at 10:56 pm, Denis Ryskamp wrote: > Gary: > > Needed: >

[PSES] Crossed-out wheeled bin symbol

In WEEE Directive, it requires crossed-out wheeled bin symbol according to EN 50419 : 2006 on the product. This symbol looks very similar to the one required in Battery Directive 2006/66/EC. Unfortunately the battery directive does not provide the applicable standard so it is unsure if they ar

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

Hi John, Is DoC a customs requirement or CE Directive requirement? Scott On 9 Aug, 2014, at 2:35 pm, John Woodgate wrote: > In message > lectric.com>, dated Fri, 8 Aug 2014, "McDiarmid, Ralph" > writes: > >> Certainly appears that they did. As I understand it, the DofC doesn't even >> n

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

Yes, they seem to do too much as required. On other side, I was told some customs want to see CE mark on export cartons so they do not need to inquire the DoC and keep uptodate of applicable standards and theirs latest versions. Thus you may see the CE mark on export cartons that are not requi

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

, 2 Aug > 2014, Scott Xe writes: > >> Although your given reference is for EMC Directive, > > Sorry about that: this list is mostly about EMC and I remembered at the > beginning that your post was LVD, but I forgot later. > >> I assume it is identical with LV

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