Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-20 Thread john Allen
the appropriate EMC characteristics for such locations. John E Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 19 October 2016 08:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread Doug Nix
; > Sylvae in aeternum manent. > > From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 6:29 PM > To: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com> > Cc: IEEE EMC PSTC <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industria

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread Paasche, Dieter
2016 5:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes My understanding has always been based on the Class and Group designations in CISPR 11 / EN 55011 for ISM equipment

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread Doug Nix
and > Associates Rayleigh England > > Sylvae in aeternum manent. > > From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 3:35 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-ind

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread John Woodgate
mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com> jamison.kor...@ecolab.com> Cc: IEEE EMC PSTC < <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes My understanding has always been based

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread Doug Nix
bstation, for example? > > > Thanks, > > Jamison > > From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:25 AM > To: Kortas, Jamison <jamison.kor...@ecolab.com> > Cc: IEEE EMC PSTC <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PS

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread Kortas, Jamison
.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes My understanding has always been based on the Class and Group designations in CISPR 11 / EN 55011 for ISM equipment (based on the 2009 edition): 5.3 Division into classes Class

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread John Woodgate
] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:04 AM To: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes >The 'prohibition' also results in no requirement for warning notices to t

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes Thanks all – at least I am n

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-19 Thread John Woodgate
amison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes Thanks all – at least I am not the only one unsure. I am trying to establish

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread Douglas Nix
Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] > Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2016 18:25 > Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial > for EMC testing purposes > > My understanding has always been based on the Class and Grou

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread Kortas, Jamison
. -Jamison From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 12:44 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes For Europe, the sources are the Generic standards, which

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 5:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes My understanding has always been based on the Class and Group designations in CISPR 1

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
printing, think about the environment. Van: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2016 18:25 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes My understanding has always been based

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Allen
ling companies will do with it. John E Allen W. London, UK From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] Sent: 18 October 2016 16:53 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes Thank y

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread Kortas, Jamison
, etc.? Thanks, -Jamison From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:31 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes You often get heavy electrical machinery

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread Doug Nix
My understanding has always been based on the Class and Group designations in CISPR 11 / EN 55011 for ISM equipment (based on the 2009 edition): > 5.3 Division into classes > Class A equipment is equipment suitable for use in all establishments other > than domestic and > those directly

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 4:31 PM To: 'John Woodgate' <jmw1...@btinternet.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes You often get heavy electrical machinery in

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Allen
] Sent: 18 October 2016 16:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes No, because light industry premises are often very close to residential premises, get power from the low-voltage supply and broadcast

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread Schmidt, Mark
Hi John, Would this be applicable for Light Industrial equipment as well? Thank you. From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:49 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
t;; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes Hi John, Would this be applicable for Light Industrial equipment as well? Thank you. From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
For Europe, 'industry' means heavy industry - large machines, high-power electrical installation, not powered from the public low-voltage supply. No broadcast radio or TV receivers likely to be within 30 metres. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only