Re: [PSES] Boom? Job description.

In message , dated Mon, 31 Oct 2011, "McInturff, Gary" writes: >I prefer my planes not to explode Surely everyone agrees with you, BUT if a job ad gets extra publicity by using unlikely wording, it does its job better. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk

RE: [PSES] Boom? Job description.

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Re: Boom? Job description.

In message <4eae5a67.3090...@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Cortland Richmond writes: >Who WRITES these things? > >Senior Electrical Design Engineer for Exploding Aircraft Company >X - Seattle ,WA - Oct 24, 2011 Very clever people - they get five to ten times the publicity of

Boom? Job description.

Who WRITES these things? Senior Electrical Design Engineer for Exploding Aircraft Company X - Seattle ,WA - Oct 24, 2011 Cortland Richmond ka5s - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc d

Re: Paging in Japan

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Re: ESD Brush

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Re: ESD Brush

harge into two 470 Kohm resistors which brings to mind the RC time constant. So, my impression is dt = RC, I = Cdv/RC = dv/R From: Doug Smith To: Bill Owsley Cc: Scott Douglas ; "emc-p...@ieee.org" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject

Re: ESD Brush

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RE: [PSES] ESD Brush

This is the brush I use. http://www.gordonbrush.com/thunderon/go t-conductive-short-handle-brush-p-1323-l-en.html -David Gray From: Scott Douglas [mailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:58 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ESD Brush Sending

Paging in Japan

Esteemed members, The product in question is a pager which will be used in bars, shops, exhibitions and so on. If not using a previously approved communication module for the pager, what are the requirements in Japan? Would it be possible to point me to the standard/law (preferably in Engl

Re: ESD Brush

: Scott Douglas ; "emc-p...@ieee.org" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:29 AM Subject: Re: ESD Brush Anything really conductive like copper or low resistance carbon fibers will subject the EUT multi-ampere CDM-like (charged device model) ESD events. In addition the 470K resistors ar

Re: ESD Brush

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Re: ESD Brush

When used with the two 470 Kohm resistors, anything conductive to brush the contact locations and EUT to reduce any induced charge back to the "ground" level will work just fine. As will just standing around for a minute or two, or an ion generator that is turned on after the discharge and NOT d

Lead Compliance Engineer Position

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ESD Brush

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Re: HERO / HERF

Ed, You didn’t quantify low power, but if the power output is less than the no-fire power of possibly exposed EEDs, seems you would be home free. If that isn’t the case, and you can spec out the highest field intensity at say 1 meter, or half a meter, or whatever be your exclusion zone, then you

RE: [PSES] thermocouple tutorial

technique of t/c bead. The long-term properties of plastics and insulation as 'systems' are well defined by UL1446, UL746B, IEC61857, and others. The assumption is that these standards are representative. Brian -Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On

Re: [PSES] thermocouple tutorial

In message , dated Thu, 27 Oct 2011, ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com writes: >I think industry in general obsesses over insulation temperature, since >degradation of that material properties over time/temperature is surly >an in-exact science. It probably isn't for a very closely-speci

Re: [PSES] thermocouple tutorial

With instrument and connecting cables at room temperature, likely more than close enough to a "zone box". I suggest the thermocouple bead attachment method along with choice of bead placement likely far greater source of error that all other variables combined. I think industry in general obse

HERO / HERF

One of our product lines includes soldier-worn vests that carry low-power UHF transponders with integral antennas. We have already performed radiated emission field strength testing (RE102) and determined the levels of the fundamental and harmonic emissions. Although there was nothing in our fo

thermocouple tutorial

Just found this in the archives of Electronics Cooling Journal. In some ways it is better tutorial than mine, but the 1% thermocouple accuracy can be improved due to modern instruments. Do not agree with the ambient temperature measurement technique due to the non-laminar nature of air flow. Have n

RE: [PSES] Medical equipment versus ITE equipment used in medical facilities

If a patient can have access to the keyboard, it needs to meet 60601-1. Generally if it is located in a patient’s room near the bed, they are considered to have access to it. Patty Knudsen Teradata Corporation PH: 858-485-3748 patricia.knud...@teradata.com From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:ga

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-2-47 magnetic field immunity test

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:00:28 +0100, John Woodgate wrote: > In message , dated Mon, 24 > Oct 2011, Pat Lawler writes: > > >Consider testing at 3 A/m *and* 1 Gauss (80 A/m) in case the higher > >test level is needed. > > What would 80 A/m at 150 Hz or 180 Hz be simulating? It's also very odd

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Tomorrow, October 26th

All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting tomorrow, October 26th, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. Tam Savino, Senior

Mexican Machine Compliance Requirements

Hello, Can anyone tell me if there are machine safety certification/mandatory approval requirements in Mexico? Also if Mexico has transposed ISO 12100 and ISO 13849-1 in NOM standards? Kind regards Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Das

Safety & EMC in Morocco

Can anyone tell me if there are safety certification and EMC requirements in Morocco, and what types of products are covered? Thank you. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Soc

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-2-47 magnetic field immunity test

In message , dated Mon, 24 Oct 2011, Pat Lawler writes: >Consider testing at 3 A/m *and* 1 Gauss (80 A/m) in case the higher >test level is needed. What would 80 A/m at 150 Hz or 180 Hz be simulating? It's also very odd that one level is in A/m and the other in the CGS unit - not tesla. One

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-2-47 magnetic field immunity test

Hi Tom: Although I can't help clear the confusion in IEC 60601-2-47, there are some IEC 60601-2-x standards that require power line magnetic field testing at high levels. The one that I came across was IEC 60601-2-22 (safety of infusion pumps), which required 400 A/m. I can only assume they tho

Re: IEC 60601-2-47 magnetic field immunity test

In message <20111024210209v.vef00...@nifty.ne.jp>, dated Mon, 24 Oct 2011, T.Sato writes: >I think the level of 1 gauss (80 A/m in air) is pretty high Very. >and use of the unit "gauss" is unusual, Unfortunately, the use of these CGS units has persisted for some 60 years. >so I thought mayb

IEC 60601-2-47 magnetic field immunity test

Hello All, I read IEC 60601-2-47 ed.1 (2001) clause 36.202.6 (magnetic field immunity), and confused with the following sentense: The EQUIPMENT shall be exposed to a magnetic field intensity of 3 A/m magnetic flux density of 1 gauss at three times the line frequency. Is the test level 3 A/m

RE: [PSES] Medical equipment versus ITE equipment used in medical facilities

Hi Gary, According with the philosophy of the 3rd edition of IEC 60601-1 an ITE item is accepted in medical electrical equipment if is located in the USER part. The subject keyboard needs to be evaluated globally with the whole equipment for the relevant clauses of IEC 60601-1. Pending the inten

RE: Medical equipment versus ITE equipment used in medical facilities

adoption of 3d edition. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:21 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: Medical equipment versus ITE equipment used in medical facili

Medical equipment versus ITE equipment used in medical facilities

List members, I’ve been looking over the medical directive or at least summaries of it, and EN60601-1 trying to determine what requirements would say that a general purpose keyboard must be evaluated or identified as a medical device or a part of a medical device. The keyboard

Re: Need Signal Integrity Engineer ( Contract) for a Silicon Valley Bay Area Project

Group, I'm looking for a Signal Intgrity Engineer for a consulting project in the Silicon Valley Bay Area. You must have proven SI skills vs EMC skills. Contact me off-list if you or someone you know may be interested. Regards, Jeff Six 9s Reliable jcoll...@six9sreliable.com - ---

Re: Seismic Testing to Japan Expectations

Group, Can anyone recommend a test lab that can conduct Seismic / Vibration testing to Japan requirements? They differ from the NEBS and ETSI spec's by requiring testing on three (3) axis instead of two (2). I would prefer to use a lab located in either N.CA or S.CA

RE: Application of EMC directive

Read the Guide for the EMC Directive 2004/108/EC under the section for Components/Sub-assemblies. Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651-778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 = Michael Derby wrote on 10/20/2011 05:40:04 AM: > From: > > Mi

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Next Wednesday, October 26th

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2.4 GHz and GPS test equipment wanted

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Job opening for Product Safety Engineer

Hello All, We are EMC test lab in Toronto and work very closely with a NRTL test lab in the city. This NRTL lab is looking for a experienced product safety engineer. Experience with 60950-1, 61010-1, 60065 and 60606-1 is a must. Knowledge of machinery directive and MDD will be an a

RE: Keeping up with new revisions

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RE: Keeping up with new revisions

yes, there are techniques to find these pages). Basic theory <http://qprober.cs.columbia.edu/publications/sigmod2001.pdf> Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Christopher Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:26 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Keeping up with new revisions

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RE: Keeping up with new revisions

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Keeping up with new revisions

Folks, What website or email notification should I get onto so I can stay current with changing standards. For example: 60950-1, 60950-22, 301-489-1, 301-489-4, EN 302 217-2-2 etc. >From time to time there are different amendments etc. I am sure these can all be found somewhere, I am not signe

RE: thermocouple tutorial

Hi Brian, As I was not in attendance at PSES symposium so you could not have lost my card and not sure that I meet the good person status, is there any other way to qualify for your tutorial? Thanks Rick -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: T

Re: [PSES] ESD standards for Brazil

Hi Christopher, Suggest you contact Carlos Eduardo Delalibera, he works at IBEC a leading EMC test house in Brazil. While most Brazilian standard are officially published in Portuguese, possibly he knows of a translated copies or he could answer your specific questions. Good luck and let me know

RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Why?

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FIPS-140-2

Folks, I am looking for a Lab or Consultant who can help us with FIPS-140-2 approval. Our Product description link is below. http://www2.aerohive.com/DS-350 http://www2.aerohive.com/DS-AP330 It will be good to find someone in the Bay area. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards Christo

thermocouple tutorial

To the good people that gave me their business cards at the PSES symposium (on Tuesday) for a copy my t/c construction tutorial - I lost them. Sorry. If you want it, send me your email address. Brian - This message is from the IEEE

RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Why?

meet you. Was most aghast that I would be associated with a reasonable and normal persona. Brian -----Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject: RE: Table Size in Emissions test -

RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Why?

48" doorway (3' 9" available). A 1m deep table is a tight fit with cables, hoses, etc.. Are there any companies who sell test tables or do you still have to make them? The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of WNya S

Re: Vehicle level radiated immunity

Thanks to everyone who replied, and I learned from you and by calling UL today that I was wrong, they only do component-level testing. Regards, Neven From: "Derek Walton" To: neve...@comcast.net Cc: "EMC-PSTC" , "Robert Nelson (SvT)" Sent: Thursday, Octo

Re: Vehicle level radiated immunity

Hi Neven, Jacobs in Detroit can also do this for you Cheers, Derek. On 10/13/2011 12:19 AM, neve...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone in Southern California run a radiated-immunity test in a semi-anechoic chamber on a car or a small SUV using: 1) Stripline (car under

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Re: Beyond Power Supply Safety

n going to the re-cycler. From: IBM Ken To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Beyond Power Supply Safety It's bes

Vehicle level radiated immunity

Can anyone in Southern California run a radiated-immunity test in a semi-anechoic chamber on a car or a small SUV using: 1) Stripline (car under it), between 1 MHz and 30 MHz, 150 V/m (CW) 2) Antenna (automotive, large log-periodic, not for EN61000-4-3) between 30 MHz and 60 MHz (100 V/m, CW

Re: Beyond Power Supply Safety

re-cycle electronic equipment. We have events at work where we get to bring in old electronic stuff to toss into the special bin going to the re-cycler. From: IBM Ken To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:28 PM

Re: Beyond Power Supply Safety

o throw the printers out. Maybe your homeowner's insurance will pay for them. -Ken A. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Brian Oconnell wrote: It's dead, Jim Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p.

RE: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Director of Engineering American Certification Body Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry http://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Derek Walton Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:30 AM To

RE: Beyond Power Supply Safety

It's dead, Jim Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:17 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Beyond Power Supply Safety Dear Members, How much damage would be after shorting the inp

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

In message <1318445064.93913.yahoomail...@web112606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, dated Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Philo Beddo writes: >But don't get me started on calibration, verification, and quality >checks!    Because I've been told that a LISN verification falls within >MU while NSA does not.   In writing

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

All, I don't think questioning an assessor is a bad thing. Many of us in the EMC field have as much or more experience than the assessors who visit our labs. Often what it comes down to is the letter of the law...we all live and die by the word "shall" in test standards (as was pointed out e

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Hi Everyone, It seems that there are many instances where labs disagree with findings. I would like to stress to everyone that you dont have to accept the assessors opinion. When you sign your report you are actually saying that. In the case of especially trivial things like those mentioned, just

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Harry, Yes, you have to pick your battles. :-) We've done the same thing, it is sometimes quicker to change a procedure than to argue the validity. I remember an auditor not liking an ESD setup, regarding the VCP. I was injecting on the same side of the VCP that the ground lead was attached.

RE: Beyond Power Supply Safety

and make their money on the expendables. Fred Townsend DC to Light Consulting Services From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:17 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Beyond Power Supply Safety Dear Members, How

RE: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

I also had similar issues during audits. I was able to argue that it is impossible to have anything that is EXACTLY any dimension. At issue was the height above the ground plane for a 61000-4-6 conducted immunity test. I was able to back it up by finding precedence in the 61000-4-4 EFT standard

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Hi Derek, I fully agree with your sentiments. The deficiency was objected to the accreditation body but it was quicker to satisfy the auditor's whims rather than engage in an elongated discussion about the rights and wrongs.. Mea culpa - I never did follow up with the accreditation body - s

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Harry, alas what you say is true, but not the way it should be. It should never have been a deficiency... I am greatly opposed to this nonsense. I do wish more labs would make instances like this known to their assessing bodies.. Cheers, Derek. On 10/12/2011 11:00 AM, Harry Ward wrote:

Re: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

That was absolutely the correct course to take as long as there were more profitable venues to pursue. But long term, such events are sand in the gears, and they will wear things down if not properly addressed. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Harry Wa

RE: [PSES] Table Size in Emissions test

Interesting thread………. Several years ago I had a similar issue: The table height was measured by (a well-respected) auditor and deemed to be 79.5cm, not 80cm. Several discussions followed regarding the accuracy/traceability of the auditor’s tape measure, validity of the deficiency etc.

RE: Beyond Power Supply Safety

Hello Grace, I would recommend replacing line voltage supplies that have been flooded. The water can carry conductive contaminants. You can also get water penetrating into components causing potential problems. There is less risk for SELV circuits, but that doesn’t mean that there is no risk

Re: [PSES] CE Mark with exclamation mark

sage- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of lauren_cr...@amat.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:03 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark Keep in mind t

Beyond Power Supply Safety

Dear Members, How much damage would be after shorting the input of power supplies? An HP all-in-one machine (purchased in 2001) and a color laser printer (HP CP2025dn) were damaged by about 1.5 feet of flood water brought into the house by Hurricane Irene. They were safe (no fire and damage to

Verification for Immunity tests

Dear Experts, It is required by ISO17025 to carry out verifications of the test stations/equipments at predefined regular intervals. What is the minimum acceptable verifications for ESD, EFT, Surge and CI stations? I am reluctant to purchase ESD targets, 50/1000 ohm attenuators, differential HV

RE: [PSES] ESD standards for Brazil

Not only ESD level is higher than CE, but also ac surge immunity is higher than CE too. Regards Tim From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:16 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] ESD standards for Brazil Chri

Re: ESD standards for Brazil

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Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

C Compliance Engineer > Schweitzer Engineering Labs > Pullman, Washington, USA > > > From: Derek Walton > To: dw...@acbcert.com > Cc: "'Grace Lin'", "'WNya'" > , "'EMC-PSTC'" > Date: 10/11/2011 10:12 AM

ESD standards for Brazil

Folks, Does anyone know of a URL for ESD requirements in Brazil for a Radio equipment. Please dont send me to Portuguese language sites. I know it is higher than EN 61000-4-2 and among the highest for Air and Contact discharge. Thanks in advance for your help. Christopher 408-470-4915 - -

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

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RE: Table Size in Emissions test

And just like coffee, some assessors are great and some need to be thrown out. Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Ward Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:14 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: RE: Table Size in Emissions te

RE: Table Size in Emissions test

Wireless Industry http://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:48 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test The issue isn’t with

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

ert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:29 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test Within his frame of reference, Ward is cor

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

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Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

Original Message- > From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:50 AM > To: Dennis Ward > Cc: don_borow...@selinc.com; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent > > Dennis, > > Test set-up is i

RE: Table Size in Emissions test

://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:29 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test Within his frame of reference, Ward is corr

RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

rom: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:50 AM To: Dennis Ward Cc: don_borow...@selinc.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent Dennis, Test set-up is independent of table size. Especially since we prove the table is not p

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

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Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

8 > direct - 703-880-4841 > > -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of > don_borow...@selinc.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:52 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent > > When

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

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RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

Well Don, this is the intelligent, technologically aware approach. But we are not expected to think while reading standardsbut obey. Common sense is explicitly excluded in ISO 17025 ;<)) Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Nam

RE: Table Size in Emissions test

nvironment. Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/nominal-size#ixzz1aUzLeYzu <http://www.answers.com/topic/nominal-size#ixzz1aUzLeYzu> Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Dennis Ward Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 18:44 Aan: 'Grace Lin&#

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

ican Certification Body Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry http://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:16 AM To: WNya Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re

Re: [PSES] hi-pot tester

Perhaps some inspectors cannot or will not interpret the 'spirit' of the requirement and so always go blindly by the book. ___ _ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Renewable Energies Business | CANADA

RE: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of don_borow...@selinc.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:52 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent When

RE: Table Size in Emissions test

Thanks Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American Certification Body Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry http://www.acbcert.com 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: Table Size in Emissions test - Intent

Pullman, Washington, USA From: Derek Walton To: dw...@acbcert.com Cc: "'Grace Lin'" , "'WNya'" , "'EMC-PSTC'" List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 10/11/2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test Sent

Re: [PSES] hi-pot tester

I would suggest you recommend that the inspectors review and take part in our online discussions. They should be able to justify their position or consider changing it. It is also reasonable to identify them. Either they have a fair and reasonable position of which they should be proud, or it is n

Re: Table Size in Emissions test

fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:16 AM To: WNya Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: Table Size in Emissions test

RE: Table Size in Emissions test

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Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Wednesday, October 26th

All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting on Wednesday, October 26th, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. Tam Savino, Se

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