Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/8 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: I was just thinking about the set up as I understand it (i.e. the Mesa card replacing my parallel port connected directly to the Geckos). It seems like

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Apr 9, 2012, at 2:03 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/8 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: I was just thinking about the set up as I understand it (i.e. the Mesa card replacing my parallel

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port…. I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You :) AFAIK Gecko drives will need the encoder signal for them to function, so each encoder signal will

[Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Wendt
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Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers

2012-04-09 Thread charles green
wow. quite a list. still dont know about the rationality. i think i read about the 5/8/' morse origin somewhere, but that also seems like an arbitrary choice. i didnt see any that were 90 degrees, which would seem like a logical first guess for aligning a length and a center. i wonder if

Re: [Emc-users] (no subject)

2012-04-09 Thread charles green
is that a link to an easter egg? --- On Sun, 4/8/12, Geoff Roehm 1947...@att.net wrote: From: Geoff Roehm 1947...@att.net Subject: [Emc-users] (no subject) To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 8:23 PM 1947...@att.net

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: Ebay auction # 150730262099 Mark Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying another toy, but my well grounded dual trace blew a bunch of stuff besides the fuse in the circuit I tried to hook a grounded

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/09/2012 08:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: Ebay auction # 150730262099 Mark Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying another toy, but my well grounded dual trace blew a bunch of stuff

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Andrew
9 квітня 2012 р. 13:25 Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil написав: Ebay auction # 150730262099 I'd also suggest item 160705670184 as it has 2 analog + 2 digital channels vs. 1 channel, 72Msps vs. 1Msps, better firmware with FFT etc. One channel is not enough often. And the next level is

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 8:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: Ebay auction # 150730262099 Mark Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying another toy, but my well grounded dual trace blew a bunch of stuff besides the fuse in

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Steve Stallings
The issue with sharing encoder signals with both the Gecko servo driver and the PC comes from the fact that the step and direction signals into the Gecko are optically isolated and the encoder and its signal exist on the other side of the isolation barrier. Maintaining the isolation and sharing

Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 8:01 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 charles greenxxzzb...@yahoo.com: i wonder if there is any math out there on the ideal taper form, given its use in specifed materials and load conditions? Ohh, conical fits (I hope that is the correct translation) is the thing we have been

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Jeff Albrecht
http://www.saelig.com/product/PSHA026.htm This one is very compact and a bit less expensive. ;-) -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 09:50:28 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 08:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: Ebay auction # 150730262099 Mark Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying another toy,

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 09:51:46 AM Andrew did opine: 9 ذ؛ذ²ر–ر‚ذ½رڈ 2012 ر€. 13:25 Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil ذ½ذ°ذ؟ذ¸رپذ°ذ²: Ebay auction # 150730262099 I'd also suggest item 160705670184 as it has 2 analog + 2 digital channels vs. 1 channel, 72Msps vs. 1Msps, better firmware

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 09:53:46 AM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 4/9/2012 8:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: Ebay auction # 150730262099 Mark Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying another toy,

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 09:55:19 AM Jeff Albrecht did opine: http://www.saelig.com/product/PSHA026.htm This one is very compact and a bit less expensive. ;-) Nope, too small still needs isolation. -- For

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/09/2012 09:51 AM, gene heskett wrote: Yeh, you and me both on the missus giving hell. She caught my Paypal bill for last month and almost had a coronary last night... ;-) You were going to be crowned, but not as a king? ;-) That's about it in a nutshell. ;-) Damn

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/09/2012 09:21 AM, Jeff Albrecht wrote: http://www.saelig.com/product/PSHA026.htm This one is very compact and a bit less expensive. ;-) Probably about the same once the case and probe is figured in. Mark

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 10:25:35 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 09:51 AM, gene heskett wrote: Yeh, you and me both on the missus giving hell. She caught my Paypal bill for last month and almost had a coronary last night... ;-) You were going to be crowned, but not as a king?

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 10:27:58 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 09:21 AM, Jeff Albrecht wrote: http://www.saelig.com/product/PSHA026.htm This one is very compact and a bit less expensive. ;-) Probably about the same once the case and probe is figured in. Mark Precisely.

Re: [Emc-users] Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Blodow
Gentlemen, I finally made it and installed the new live CD on my former office PC. I wanted to keep the Windoofs system on the first HD and was very glad to see that the installer chose the second HD for Ubuntu and automatically loaded grub2 also to go with it. Ubuntu and LinuxCNC are up and

[Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread John Murphy
I had previously tied my oil pump to the run signal on my VFD, so when the machine was running, lube pump was running. The lube pump works with a cam raising an oiler, then letting the spring/gravity drive the pump to push the oil out. My understanding is that it's pretty common to oil way too

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Apr 9, 2012, at 09:56 , John Murphy wrote: Is there a nice way to do a periodic timer or duty cycle in the hal? It's trivial for me to drive the pump relay with a digital output, then I can tune the pump cam motor duty cycle with 'run' to keep it running automatically, but not quite so

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
The classic ladder example sim has always had a timer in it. On Apr 9, 2012 11:18 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: On Apr 9, 2012, at 09:56 , John Murphy wrote: Is there a nice way to do a periodic timer or duty cycle in the hal? It's trivial for me to drive the pump relay

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:13:59AM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: I've been thinking about something similar for my converted Bridgeport (ex-Boss8) machine. I think stepgen (in velocity mode) could do it, and I think there's a timer in ClassicLadder that could do it. These are generally

Re: [Emc-users] German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 11:18 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: Gentlemen, I finally made it and installed the new live CD on my former office PC. ... Just a word about the German appearance: I would gladly help with translation and adaptation to German if I knew how. As it is at the moment, texts are mixed

Re: [Emc-users] German Docs

2012-04-09 Thread John Thornton
Peter, AFAIK the only translations have been to the html titles and not even sure if that is correct. Yes you would need to start with a fresh English copy to make sure you have the latest one. If you send me an email at jthornton at gnipsel period com I can send you complete instructions on

Re: [Emc-users] German Docs

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 11:53:52AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: If you send me an email at jthornton at gnipsel period com I can send you complete instructions on how to proceed. Please put this information on a wiki page. I looked for one and didn't find it, when I saw this question.

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Dave
That is about 4 rungs of ladder in Classic ladder. Two timers, one timer times out and starts the second one. When the second timer times out it opens a NC contact that feeds the first timer.So timer 1 times out, starting timer 2 which resets timer1 and the loop continues. Put another

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/09/2012 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 10:25:35 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 09:51 AM, gene heskett wrote: Yeh, you and me both on the missus giving hell. She caught my Paypal bill for last month and almost had a coronary last night...

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 Apr 2012, at 10:03, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: That is about 4 rungs of ladder in Classic ladder. Two timers, one timer times out and starts the second one. When the second timer times out it opens a NC contact that feeds the first timer. Or a low frequency PWMgen (running in

Re: [Emc-users] German Docs

2012-04-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 Apr 2012, at 10:01, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: Please put this information on a wiki page. I looked for one and didn't find it, when I saw this question. There is http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Internationalization Which describes a different aspect of the puzzle.

Re: [Emc-users] German Docs

2012-04-09 Thread John Thornton
both pages are on the main wiki page under Documents now... John On 4/9/2012 12:48 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 9 Apr 2012, at 10:01, Chris Radekch...@timeguy.com wrote: Please put this information on a wiki page. I looked for one and didn't find it, when I saw this question. There is

[Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread sam sokolik
I am throwing this out as I have run across a few people that have had issues with EPP mode and the printer port. Now onboard parallel ports can usually bet set to epp mode in the bios. Onboard printer ports usually require some sort of utillity to put them into EPP mode. Now if I remember

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port…. I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You :) AFAIK Gecko drives will need the encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You :)

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 09, 2012 03:50:28 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, April 09, 2012 10:25:35 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 04/09/2012 09:51 AM, gene heskett wrote: Yeh, you and me both on the missus giving hell. She caught my Paypal bill for

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port

Re: [Emc-users] Lube Pump Duty Cycle...

2012-04-09 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM, John Murphy j...@wyosip.com wrote: I had previously tied my oil pump to the run signal on my VFD, so when the machine was running, lube pump was running. The lube pump works with a cam raising an oiler, then letting the spring/gravity drive the pump to push

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 Apr 2012, at 11:20, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: I have two wires from my power source connected to the Geckos, two wires from the geckos to power the motor, the common wire, 5v and ground for the encoder, then encoder A/B going to the Gecko, and step/dir coming from the

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 Apr 2012, at 13:09, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: All I know is I only have enough pulse bandwidth to run my servos quite slow. I thought this was based on how fast my computer can send pulses to the Geckos. If the drive is set to 1 pulses per inch and you are using

[Emc-users] EMC with MaxNC OL?

2012-04-09 Thread Joseph Chiu
Hi, I have an old Max-NC 10 (called Max-NC OL these days) that I used to run on a DOS-based PC about a decade ago. Life happened for a decade, but I've recently dusted it off and would like to put it back in operation. The DOS-based PC that I had is kaputs, my paper documentation (in the blue

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 13:17 -0500, sam sokolik wrote: I am throwing this out as I have run across a few people that have had issues with EPP mode and the printer port. Now onboard parallel ports can usually bet set to epp mode in the bios. Onboard printer ports usually require some sort

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. In EPP, those pins are driven by an additional piece of logic in the parport

[Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm new to LinuxCNC and have a few questions about hardware, and want to make sure I'm understanding things correctly before I start hacking. It seems many folks are using a standard parallel port and driving step/dir signals (maybe even reading

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:01:41 -0600 From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:21:12 -0500 From: Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Peter, Can you detail the difference in the example and the controller's capabilities? Are these two sentences the same thing? snip the comments in the HAL setup for a 7I43 indicate: quote configs/hm2-stepper/7i43-small.ini # Step timing is 40 us steplen + 40 us stepspace # That

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:38:47 -0400 From: BRIAN GLACKIN glackin.br...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/9/2012 6:28 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:21:12 -0500 From: Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net snip quote configs/hm2-stepper/7i43-small.ini # Step timing is

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/9/2012 6:48 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: He's looking at the hm2-stepper.hal (and 7i43.ini) example files. This is an _example_ file that happens to have been created and tested with a quite slow step drive. It might be good to throw a comment

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Ports, EPP, and Mesa 7I43

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/09/2012 05:57 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 4/9/2012 6:48 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: He's looking at the hm2-stepper.hal (and 7i43.ini) example files. This is an _example_ file that happens to have been created and tested with a quite slow step drive. It might be good to throw a

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 9 Apr 2012, at 11:20, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: I have two wires from my power source connected to the Geckos, two wires from the geckos to power the motor, the common wire, 5v and ground for the encoder, then encoder A/B going

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 9 Apr 2012, at 13:09, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: All I know is I only have enough pulse bandwidth to run my servos quite slow. I thought this was based on how fast my computer can send pulses to the Geckos. If the drive is

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread sam sokolik
This is how I understand it also. Some have 'fixed' this issue by adding pull up resistors on certain pins. If the port was set to EPP mode - this would not be needed. (ie the g540 requires EPP mode for the charge pump to work) sam On 04/09/2012 06:25 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Mon, 9

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. In EPP, those pins are driven by an additional piece

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/09/2012 07:13 PM, sam sokolik wrote: This is how I understand it also. Some have 'fixed' this issue by adding pull up resistors on certain pins. If the port was set to EPP mode - this would not be needed. I did not know that! I stand corrected, thanks ;-) -- Sebastian Kuzminsky

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Dave
On 4/9/2012 9:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. In EPP,

[Emc-users] User Suggestions

2012-04-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
I absolutely love LinuxCNC. I am running 2.5.0 now. Here are a few suggestions that I think will make it even better. I think most of them would be fairly trivial to implement. 1. I would love to see a percent of the tool paths remaining. 2. It would be nice if the on screen tool was a

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: I guess the problem is I don't know all the terminology. Yes, I guess that is correct. I assume the 'open-loop steppers or servos with LinuxCNC closing the loop' is the best setup? For instance, that would allow the fastest control, and double as a DRO when the power

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: In other words, if issuing pulses to the Gecko was not a bottleneck, how fast can the Geckos count the encoder lines - as fast as needed? I think that is 250,000 counts/second. Jon -- Better