Re: [Emc-users] How to get data to HAL from USB, serial or socket?

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Thanks. The example is clear. All that is needed s a user-space app that can talk to a user any way it wants. Seems the details are all abstracted away in hal.component I can think of a bunch of maybe useful experiments to try. On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:34 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 4

Re: [Emc-users] Cool new take on a foam cutter:

2020-06-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I think LinuxCNC would be able to easily drive the shown machine. I believe it will be VERY difficult to find a CAM system capable of creating the gcode program to describe the path. On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 12:54 PM Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > > > Have plenty of wood on other side of the wall in

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats cute. But that would likely need to be made on a resin printer as > this one from what I've seen so far, simply cannot do that fine a > detail. > My "cut" on this would work because the glue joint is hidden inside, Andy's is smart but

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM andy pugh wrote: > > I can make T-5 pulleys. I have the correct hob... > Here is a rather special one that I made: > https://photos.app.goo.gl/WQjvc7TCmm2K6yfA6 cheating... no flanges. :-) > > > I have a suggestion to avoid support for the flanges. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> > > I have a suggestion to avoid support for the flanges. > > https://a360.co/2U7MfCg > > (Use the explode tool to see the cunning plan) Clever. John > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed > for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 19:49:36 Chris Albertson wrote: > That is such a good idea! > > It eliminates all the overhang. I took this idea and combined it with > what I do and made a hybrid. One half of this in made on a lathe out > of steel or aluminum and the other half is printed.The

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 01:03, Gene Heskett wrote: up into the pulley teeth but the threads its laying are completely > random, no teeth, just a rough surface with no real pattern. Why not print the classic "Benchy" boat, and only try to make working parts when that works? (and why persist with

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Kind of* back on-topic*, see why in a minute... Idea: Make a printer with two tanks. One resin and one IPA.The printer raises the part out of the resin then the tanks moves on a rail and the platform goes back down but this time int IPA tank and the platform move 1mm or 2mm up and down

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 19:34:03 Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > What format is the original model? To convert to STL the model has to > be solid or "water tight". No missing faces and all one piece. A bunch > of solid parts 'glued together' can cause problems like what you're >

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 19:13:10 andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 23:46, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > The first step is to design the part knowing the process and what it > can > > > and can't do.The usual timing belt pulleys are designed to be > > easy to make in a die-cast machine

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Hackaday has a series of articles under 3D Printering. The latest, #42, covers cleaning resin prints. The basics are use two IPA washes. One for initial cleaning to get most of the uncured resin off, then a second one to finish. When the second has too much resin dissolved to wash clean, swap

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
What format is the original model? To convert to STL the model has to be solid or "water tight". No missing faces and all one piece. A bunch of solid parts 'glued together' can cause problems like what you're experiencing, especially if the parts intersect. Other issues that can crop up with 3D

Re: [Emc-users] Design for the materials and process

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 23:46, Chris Albertson wrote: The first step is to design the part knowing the process and what it can > and can't do.The usual timing belt pulleys are designed to be easy to > make in a die-cast machine or injection molded. They would look *much > different* if they

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
For a toothed pulley with a flange on both sides I'd modify the 3D model to make one flange a separate part, with features on it and the body of the pulley to align it so that when glued on it will be concentric. To glue PLA, cyanoacrylate (super glue) works well. So does tetrahydrofuran,

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
It sounds like you checked the "print a mold" box. Cura can do this. The part is then made of air surrounded by plastic. (People do this so they can fill the void space with resin or maybe wax to make a candle. It is a REALLY good way to make a shoft rubber over-molded part.Let's say you

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bruce Layne
On 6/4/20 4:50 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > One more question. How do you post-process the printed parts? Do you use > a separate UV lamp or sunlight. Same with cleaning? Just use a bucket of > alcohol? I know they make SLA post-processing equipment, ultrasonic > cleaners, and UV booths. I'm

Re: [Emc-users] How to get data to HAL from USB, serial or socket?

2020-06-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > I'd like to build a handheld pendant controller. I have some ideas about > how it should work. One thing I want is an LCD screen. This could evolve > into a "smart pendant" that can do things like

Re: [Emc-users] How to get data to HAL from USB, serial or socket?

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 21:35, Chris Albertson wrote: I think the best physical interface from a handheld device to the computer > is USB.Is there a way to get data from USB to HAL? > https://emergent.unpythonic.net/01198594294 (alternatively, put a 7i73 in your pendant, and you have

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 17:11:49 Chris Albertson wrote: > If you have not enabled supports and are printing an object like a > pulley you WILL have a total mess.3D printer need a surface and an > part of the part that overhangs with just air onder it will not print > well as the hot plastic

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
If you have not enabled supports and are printing an object like a pulley you WILL have a total mess.3D printer need a surface and an part of the part that overhangs with just air onder it will not print well as the hot plastic will just fall out the nozzle. But that cross hatch pattern looks

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread N
> Sorry, their web site is not 100% informative. The USB thumb drive is > maybe better than an SD card. > > One more question. How do you post-process the printed parts? Do you use > a separate UV lamp or sunlight. Same with cleaning? Just use a bucket of > alcohol? I know they make SLA

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bari
On 6/4/20 3:50 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: How do you post-process the printed parts? Do you use a separate UV lamp or sunlight. Either. Same with cleaning? Just use a bucket of alcohol? Yes. ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Sorry, their web site is not 100% informative. The USB thumb drive is maybe better than an SD card. One more question. How do you post-process the printed parts? Do you use a separate UV lamp or sunlight. Same with cleaning? Just use a bucket of alcohol? I know they make SLA post-processing

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 13:09:10 Chris Albertson wrote: > Can you save > 1) the STL file yes, I have that, created by openscad > 2) the gcode file yes, I have that, the .stl file as sliced by cura > 3) Then in Cura to File-> and it will save the project file Where is this menu? The only write

[Emc-users] How to get data to HAL from USB, serial or socket?

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
I'd like to build a handheld pendant controller. I have some ideas about how it should work. One thing I want is an LCD screen. This could evolve into a "smart pendant" that can do things like move along an arc, rather than just one axis at a time. I think the best physical interface from a

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bari
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/39213-linuxcnc-for-sla-dlp-and-msla-mlcd-printers https://imgur.com/zvxoHUT   https://imgur.com/zKNtBAg XY area: 537.6mm x 302.4mm (21.14" x 11.89") Large enough? You can go much larger. Photopolymers start under $20/Kg. Similar to FFF filament.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Martin Dobbins
Thanks for posting about that, it's a new one on me. Previously I had looked at Anycubic Photon and Elegoo Mars, I think they will have "other planets" out soon too :-). I *think* most of these will do "offline" prints and work with USB thumb drives just as you describe. There seems to be a

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bruce Layne
Some misinformation in Chris' post. The QIDI Shadow 5.5S has a USB port, just like most 3D printers, but the lack of an SD card does not imply that data is dribbled across a USB cable as the printer needs it.  Instead of an SD card, I plug a USB thumb drive into the Shadow.  There's a very nice

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
I looked. They have their own slicing software that runs on Mac or Windows. The interface is USB only, no SD card. So on Linux you'd be using a virtual machine to host a Windows image and then their software in that. Windows runs well in a VM if the host machine is powerful enough. I would

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bruce Layne
On 6/4/20 12:06 PM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: >> I bought a QIDI Shadow 5.5S a few weeks ago for US$289 > > i see it is available now for $259.00 and free shipping Thanks.  Now I want to buy another one! > what slicing software is needed Chitubox.  It seems to be proprietary freeware,

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 13:09:10 Chris Albertson wrote: > Can you save > 1) the STL file > 2) the gcode file > 3) Then in Cura to File-> and it will save the project file which has > all the settings including how you positioned the model on the build > plate. > > I'd look at these fies. Do

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Can you save 1) the STL file 2) the gcode file 3) Then in Cura to File-> and it will save the project file which has all the settings including how you positioned the model on the build plate. I'd look at these fies. But my guess is this is a data error. The gcode file is gettig corrupted or

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 June 2020 08:13:53 andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 12:20, Gene Heskett > wrote: > > Preview has a camera view angle that takes the image off the bottom of > > > the screen, long before the magnification has reached a usefull > > level. > > Shift-drag, Ctrl-drag and

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread grumpy--- via Emc-users
I bought a QIDI Shadow 5.5S a few weeks ago for US$289 i see it is available now for $259.00 and free shipping what slicing software is needed does it run under linux is the manual available i would like to read up on this ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Ralph Stirling
I have contemplated building one with a base/frame made of scrap granite countertop material, granite surface plates, or an epoxy/mineral casting. Vibration dampening is a good thing. The high accelerations of marginally rigid frames can induce visible artifacts. We have an fdm printer kit

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, andrew beck wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:25:58 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control hey peter I have just been looking at the

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 12:20, Gene Heskett wrote: Preview has a camera view angle that takes the image off the bottom of > the screen, long before the magnification has reached a usefull level. Shift-drag, Ctrl-drag and Alt-Drag all do different things to the preview. -- atp "A motorcycle is

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 June 2020 23:05:12 Chris Albertson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:33 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 June 2020 19:17:14 Chris Albertson wrote: > > > You are going to have to post a photo. First off, I hope you are > > > printing these pulleys flat, With

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andrew beck
I don't really know much about it. there is a big heidenhain service manual online I found that mentioned it. apparently there are also extra boards that allow you to interface a 0-10v signal also which then converts to PWM in the inverter. So I bet there are pretty standard. If I do end up

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 09:53, andrew beck wrote: > apparently it takes a PWM > command from the heidenhain main controller via ribbon cables Do you know anything about that signal? The Mesa firmware is capable of providing a 3-phase PWM, in fact that is exactly the control scheme used by the

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andrew beck
ah I see thanks for that I couldn't work out how that was supposed to work so that is not going to happen then on the cnc mill. guess I will need to buy chinese servo drives and motors if the existing heidenhain inverter doesn't work and I can't interface with it. apparently it takes a PWM

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 08:14, andrew beck wrote: > So in a nutshell so long as the 8i20 can accept 400v three phase input > power I should be OK. The 8i20 takes DC input. If you rectify 400V three-phase then you will get 565 V. 400V is the RMS voltage. A rectifier charges the capacitor to

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bari
I formulate photopolymers and they are mostly acrylic monomers mixed with acrylated epoxies or urethanes. Here are the Radtech recommendations for proper handling: https://www.radtech.org/health-safety/proper-handling-of-uv-resins On 6/4/20 2:35 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Some

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Some of these resins are caustic, the especially nasty ones have a delayed effect. You think you got it all off your thigh after you whipped your pants off after spilling resin on your leg. Then a while later... Just one of the rather ewww images that can be turned up with a search for 3d

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andrew beck
So in a nutshell so long as the 8i20 can accept 400v three phase input power I should be OK. Peter could you please confirm what you meant when you said the stumble and 8i20 only take 220v? Regards Andrew On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 6:46 PM andrew beck wrote: > Just a update. > At 3000 rpm with a

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Bari
I only saw more t-slot and plastic hardware type printers. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru5N2d2n_4c My spare parts are linear servos and Newport rotary stages: https://imgur.com/LOriL1y Is anyone making a FFF/FDM printer that is not a wobbly toy that needs constant tinkering

Re: [Emc-users] max motor size that a 8i20 can control

2020-06-04 Thread andrew beck
Just a update. At 3000 rpm with a 16mm pitch ballscrew my max rapids would be 48m/min So 1500max rpm is fine Which is 24m/min. On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 5:25 PM andrew beck wrote: > hey peter > > I have just been looking at the manual for the 8i20 and it says 2200w 400v > motor power > > Is that

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 3Dprinting

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Look up Ivan Miranda on YouTube. He's built several 3D printers, some pretty large. On Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 12:21:37 PM MDT, Bari wrote: On 6/3/20 1:00 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Printer controllers cost about $40 complete, > stepper drivers and all and fit in your hand.  The

Re: [Emc-users] missing feature of openscad

2020-06-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
There are test objects with a selection of features, including various angles and overhangs. Try printing without support then observe which angle it goes to a bird's nest. That's the minimum angle you can get away with printing without support. Of course there's a setting for that. Yup, the