Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 31 Jan 2016, at 05:03, Chris Albertson wrote: > Yes. Sorry that was a typo, autocorrected. But actually the subscription > model of paying for software is the same.Microsoft is doing this with > Office 360 too. All of these companies are looking to do the same > things, even out

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 31 Jan 2016, at 04:56, Chris Albertson wrote: > This is what I get for typing while I'm looking at the app, rather than > after using it for a while. I got to it using it via a different rout. > For Mac users getting it from the Apple Mac Store is better than > downloading from the Autodesk

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 31 Jan 2016, at 05:27, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: >> On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Chris Albertson >> wrote: >> >> For Mac users getting it from the Apple Mac Store is better than downloading >> from the Autodesk web site.Apple will manage software updates >>

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ROFLMAO!!! So many years compiling, configuring, running and managing sendmail, I would tend to agree with Mr Altman. I have probably as many scars as you, Jerry. ;-) Mark On 02/01/2016 12:59 AM, Jerry Scharf wrote: > Eric Altman, author of sendmail said that he received "a lifetime of >

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Oh gawd. m4 and the sacrificial chickens used to compile sendmail.cf's and such. That's a nightmare I've left in my past... ;-) Mark On 01/31/2016 11:27 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > I was thinking about using "m4". It is a macro processor that is already > on every Linux/Unix system and I

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Adding to the code fight. It's a pity we still have to deal with G-code. It's not 1960's when machines came with equivalent of few hundred bytes of memory and/or paper tape reader. Why is it that people need to remember some G to move a tool along x or y axis in increments or absolute

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That is the point it is the case of the golden hand cuffs. The idea is the vendor gets you locked in and more or less holds your data hostage. As long as you play nice and pay up all is ok but if you dont or the vendor needs money in a hurry your day to day businesses is held for ransom. As

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cpp, the c preprocessor can do the macro expansion does not have to get C handed to it also commonly available on linux distros tomp On 02/01/2016 12:27 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > I was thinking about using "m4". It is a macro processor that is already > on every Linux/Unix system and I think

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Eric Altman, author of sendmail said that he received "a lifetime of loathing for the use of m4." m4 could probably do it, but it will be the most obtuse, write only code imaginable. Been there, done that, have the scars. jerry On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Chris Albertson

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I was thinking about using "m4". It is a macro processor that is already on every Linux/Unix system and I think all Macs too. m4 will copy its input to its output except when it sees a macro which it will expend. while expanding a macro it can run any shell program or use it's own features. So

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 01/30/2016 11:33 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > As I said, running this app as I type... Yes you can sign up for free use > under one of two cases > 1) Student or Educator, gets three free years and can sign up again after > that > 2) Business that does under $100K per year gets one free year

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I used to create my gears with a bit of php but then is became obvious that the same maths could be done in gcode, one less step, so the preamble in the gcode has a tooth qty/whatever is needed for that class of work. Dave Caroline

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On 1/30/2016 9:03 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > What are people here using to create G-code? I am looking for options. > > I'm new to CNC and trying to develop a work flow. I'm making small parts > (most fit in a 3" cube) for robot manipulators. These can be designed > for easy manual

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 01/31/2016 02:57 AM, craig wrote: > I use Java, where I have a rich set of mathematical tools to write code > to write and manipulate arrays of "pseudo code" and routines to generate > g-code from the pseudo code.The "pseudo code" has the advantage of > being easily manipulated with

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On 01/30/2016 08:57 PM, craig wrote: > I use Java, where I have a rich set of mathematical tools to write code > to write and manipulate arrays of "pseudo code" and routines to generate > g-code from the pseudo code.The "pseudo code" has the advantage of > being easily manipulated with java

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On 01/30/2016 11:03 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > What are people here using to create G-code? I am looking for options. > > I have an old version of Bobcad/CAM, but it is cumbersome to use, so I rarely use it. Instead, I have written a bunch of c programs that write efficient G-code for the

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

On Saturday 30 January 2016 12:03:41 Chris Albertson wrote: > What are people here using to create G-code? I am looking for > options. > > I'm new to CNC and trying to develop a work flow. I'm making small > parts (most fit in a 3" cube) for robot manipulators. These can be > designed for

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I too am a Mac user. Up until recently I have been using Geomagic Design (formerly Alibre Design) for CAD and mostly Sheetcam for CAM. Both of these apps are Windows based. I run Windows7 as an application on MacOS - as god intended ;-) with Parallels. Geomagic and Sheetcam are pretty much

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BTW, Dale Grover at Maker Works in Ann Arbor put together this handy overview of the CAD/CAM tool chain: http://maker-works.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cadcamPosterV1.png -Tom -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep

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"the CAD/CAM tool chain” should have been "their CAD/CAM tool chain”. This is Maker Works tool chain for the software they use and the machines they drive. It doesn’t include ALL possibilities. For example, Fusion 360 CAM isn’t shown. But handy nonetheless. -Tom > On Jan 30, 2016, at 5:12

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It seems that Fusion 360 is in the Mac "App Store" for free. It may be cloud based but it is also a "real" app that runs on a Mac. (They might have a Windows version too but I have not looked.) OK I said "free". No, sorry, a correction, The app is free but it does not work without a

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To clarify… This is not an Adobe app. The company is Autodesk, same company that did Autocad and Inventor, etc etc…. -Tom > On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > As I said, running this app as I type... Yes you can sign up for free use >

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

This is what I get for typing while I'm looking at the app, rather than after using it for a while. I got to it using it via a different rout. For Mac users getting it from the Apple Mac Store is better than downloading from the Autodesk web site. Apple will manage software updates

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> On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > For Mac users getting it from the Apple Mac Store is better than downloading > from the Autodesk web site.Apple will manage software updates > automatically and it will run on all my Apple computers,

Re: [Emc-users] Creating G-code?

Yes. Sorry that was a typo, autocorrected. But actually the subscription model of paying for software is the same.Microsoft is doing this with Office 360 too. All of these companies are looking to do the same things, even out there cash flow with reliable monthly payments form customers

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That Maker-works chart is missing the biggist column, between scanner and CAD. Paper blueprints. I know that by now you would expect that companies would supply electronic design media to speed up both quote and delivery times, but it seems that anything other than paper printed blueprints is

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Chris, Go here: http://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/overview Download, sign up, and if you are a small business making less than $100k per year (I think that is the number), or a hobbiest you get a 1 year (and renewable) license for no charge. -Tom . > On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:04 PM,

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As I said, running this app as I type... Yes you can sign up for free use under one of two cases 1) Student or Educator, gets three free years and can sign up again after that 2) Business that does under $100K per year gets one free year then can sign up again. So I yes you only owe them money

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Here is the quote from the Fusion 360 link I sent: "Access the same design software used by industry leaders worldwide. A free 3-year license is available for students, teachers, and academic institutions. A free 1-year startup license is also available for hobbyists, enthusiasts, makers,