Re: [Emc-users] Cheap servo drives from China.

2020-07-03 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
justa a warm these is stepper motor ... for that price or little more you can buy servo brushless motor consider china stepper with encoder is not so good for retrofit or build a good mill or late normally have not "intelligent" drive for some hobbyist router or 3dprinter can be ok.

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
If you want to replace an apple ssd with a cheaper, better NVMe one, you can buy an adapter to do just that. I just did that and strangely enough, even though the original was a SATA, the NVMe device works fine.

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 02:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > This might be a place for candle smoke Yes, definitely worth a try. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta

Re: [Emc-users] Turning a pulley.

2020-07-03 Thread John Dammeyer
Here's the arbor which has a runout of under 0.0002" and the pulley blank was a tight sliding fit as it is on the 19mm motor shaft. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindlePulleyArbor.jpg The Aloris tool holder ended up being turned a number of times along with different tools to get at each

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 20:46:46 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 01:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Blue. > > > > I thought of that, but I don't know where I could src some of that > > locally. Is "diechem blue" the right search term to feed google?? > > Not really, Dykem is a marking out

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2020 07:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I thought of that, but I don't know where I could src some of that locally. Is "diechem blue" the right search term to feed google?? Thanks Andy Cheers, Gene Heskett If it is cleaned of oil, you can use a magic marker or Sharpie. DyKem is a layout

Re: [Emc-users] Turning a pulley.

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 19:49:15 John Dammeyer wrote: > This isn't as much of a CNC question but more of a tool shape and > positioning question. > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindleMotorPulley-3.jpg > > I'm having trouble getting past a certain depth while trying to cut > the smaller

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread Chris Albertson
Try a Sharpie pen. All you are looking for is it gets worn off or not. > > Blue up the worm, and see whether it rubs off the crests or roots of > > the thread. > > I thought of that, but I don't know where I could src some of that > locally. Is "diechem blue" the right search term to feed

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 01:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Blue. > I thought of that, but I don't know where I could src some of that > locally. Is "diechem blue" the right search term to feed google?? Not really, Dykem is a marking out fluid rather than a contact testing compound. You can see

Re: [Emc-users] Turning a pulley.

2020-07-03 Thread Ken Strauss
Is the angle between the cheeks (what is the right term?) of the pulley 34 degrees? If so using a tool with VCMT inserts fed straight in might work. See https://www.iscar.com/eCatalog/Family.aspx?cat=5596383=869=IS= 0=4=T#:~:text=VCMT%2DSM%20%3A%2035%C2%B0%20rhombic,Positive%20r

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
There's a bit of a glitch with the 2004 update when it comes to SSDs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffHIY6pOJUk It continually insists an SSD has to be "optimized" but there's a way to fix it. On Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:34:30 AM MDT, Jon Elson wrote: On 07/03/2020 12:03 AM, linden

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 19:21:27 andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 23:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Should I go ahead and motorize it, then use the motor to break it > > in, > > That would take a long time. > > > It being new, I have no wear pattern to show me which of the 2 > > points needs

Re: [Emc-users] Turning a pulley.

2020-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 00:52, John Dammeyer wrote: > > This isn't as much of a CNC question but more of a tool shape and positioning > question. > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindleMotorPulley-3.jpg It looks like a job for a (left handed) parting tool and the compound slide (or CNC

[Emc-users] Turning a pulley.

2020-07-03 Thread John Dammeyer
This isn't as much of a CNC question but more of a tool shape and positioning question. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/SpindleMotorPulley-3.jpg I'm having trouble getting past a certain depth while trying to cut the smaller pulley. The tool holder keeps getting in the way and with the

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Apple has used several different and incompatible slim SSD types in recent years. Now that they have finally adopted NVMe in the cheesegrater that costs as much as a car, they're still locking the buyer in. The computer comes with two modules installed but their serial numbers are programmed

Re: [Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 23:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > Should I go ahead and motorize it, then use the motor to break it in, That would take a long time. > It being new, I have no wear pattern to show me which of the 2 points > needs additional clearance to allow the flanks to fit closer. Blue.

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Curtis Dutton
I use SSD's in everything. I have had 1 fail. It was an A-DATA brand. I have an intel somewhere that is OK and majority Samsung drives, both M2 format and SATA. I have deployed quite a few of them for Customers in desktops and servers. Probably a total of 30 or so. No failures yet (Fingers

[Emc-users] More BS-1 clone headaches.-

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I thought I'd try and get rid of the backlash, about a degree in this BS-1 today, so the first thing I did was inspect the grease on the worm. Good, and clean. putting a flat washer on the locking cap screw so the adjusting collar might stay put as its tightened, I found the

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Ted
I'm quite partial to traditional 2.5" SATA SSD's; I have about 30 servers with SAS/SATA slots running either Kingston or Sandisk 3Gb/s SSD's in 480Gb capacities. My home SAN runs 20 x 1TB SSD's (also Kingston) and if I rummage through my gig bag, I'll probably find half a dozen 1tb M2 SSD's in

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2020 11:01 AM, Sam Sokolik wrote: I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB Power_On_Hours = 11845 My desktop SSD reports 57388 power-on hours. Jon ___

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2020 12:03 AM, linden wrote: Hello All, Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid State Drives. I have been using SSDs in several systems. I have a travel laptop that has a small one, Ubuntu 14.04, I think. It gets relatively light use. My main

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
Thanks Guys for the help and insight i will run with this samsung ssd and see how far it gets me. I wont give up on ssds yet ;-) linden On 2020-07-03 9:28 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 12:01:01 Sam Sokolik wrote: I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 12:01:01 Sam Sokolik wrote: > I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My > laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB > > Power_On_Hours = 11845 > Sam, I didn't think to ask my oldest ssd, but 9 Power_On_Hours23372 However:

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB Power_On_Hours = 11845 I think all of our linuxcnc installed are on ssd's also. sam On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:24 AM Thaddeus Waldner wrote: > Be aware that M.2 is a

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Be aware that M.2 is a socket spec that includes both SATA and NVMe type devices. https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3 Added to that, Apple began using PCIe drives before the NVMe standard was established, so there’s another socket to be confused about if you run Mac.

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Sync
Don't buy cheap or used SSDs, my experience is that those fail too early. I only run Intel or Samsung and have not had a hard failure in around 10 years. Sync ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Yup, definitely want to disable all the logging Linux does. That's what's been bricking early Tesla Model S cars. They left logging on. The car computer runs Linux and it and the car software are installed on a non volatile storage soldered onto the computer board. As Tesla released updates and

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Two things for SSDs. Never defrag them because they don't need it and doing a defrag doesn't actually defrag files due to the wear leveling system that never allows files to be written to sequential blocks. Defragging them just wears them out faster. Same for multiple pass data erasing for

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
On 2020-07-03 12:20 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 01:03:39 linden wrote: Hello All,     Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid State Drives. I have not had much luck with them my self and am wondering is this normal or am I the exception to

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
Thanks Chris for the insight into what may be going on. The PCIe interface sounds like a possible solution for machines that have PCI slots unfortunately with the laptop I am stuck with this sata interface we will see how this Samsung drive holds up with linux mint 20 On 2020-07-03 12:13

Re: [Emc-users] setting up hostmot2 firmware compiling

2020-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 04:04, Ralph Stirling wrote: > I have installed Xilinx 13.4 software > on my Ubuntu laptop, but am having trouble piecing > together the rest of the files. There is a Wiki page on using the IDE: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles (or

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 01:03:39 linden wrote: > Hello All, > >     Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid > State Drives. > > I have not had much luck with them my self and am wondering is this > normal or am I the exception to the rule as if you believe the >

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Chris Albertson
Your results are atypical. It could be however the fault of the OS. Each bit in an SSD has a certain number of read/write cycles before it might fail. Some million of cycles. Back in the "old days" some OSes would write continously to the same place on the drive. For example you'd delete a