Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Karl Schmidt [mailto:k...@lrak.net] > I got burned with electronic-CAD software - the software quit unless you > signed up for their new expensive support > package.. > > > I've been using FreeCAD - slowly getting better - steep learning curve, but > they can't pull the plug -- AND it

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 7/11/23 06:43PM, John Dammeyer wrote: And the cost of the bait is very low compared to the number of fish they are catching with it. Once you have several years of drawings (all essentially free) throwing an upgrade that now costs on ly a tiny bit, hardly anything, but "Will enhance

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
, July 12, 2023 8:43:23 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards … chiming in on the native Apple Si version. The speed improvement is night and day difference. I’m on a M1 Max notebook and currently working with a large assembly imported from SW

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Ron Buck
… chiming in on the native Apple Si version. The speed improvement is night and day difference. I’m on a M1 Max notebook and currently working with a large assembly imported from SW. Even small changes were getting slow enough to get up and stretch while it was thinking. No hint of even a pause

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread gene heskett
On 7/12/23 02:23, Chris Albertson wrote: On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:42 PM, gene heskett wrote: ... I'll bet real money that OpenSCAD is easier to learn. Openscad is certainly easy for some simple things but impossible for others. Try making a cordless power tool in OpenScad. But in Fusion a

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-12 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:42 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > ... I'll bet real money that OpenSCAD is easier to learn. Openscad is certainly easy for some simple things but impossible for others. Try making a cordless power tool in OpenScad. But in Fusion a power tool is used as an

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread gene heskett
On 7/11/23 18:36, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in the last 2 decades is under 50 bucks for stuff I've done for OP. With today's prices, 10 G's would be a limit I might tolerate, but

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: > > > I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in > I think you are missing the point. Fusion is free to use until and if > you are using

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 23:13, gene heskett wrote: > I also have a problem with the $1000 limit, even if my total intake in > the last 2 decades is under 50 bucks for stuff I've done for OP. With > today's prices, 10 G's would be a limit I might tolerate, but really, I > have no intentions of

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread gene heskett
On 7/11/23 09:31, Matthew Herd wrote: At one time, Fusion360's hobby user license limited rapids to the max feed speed, but that may have changed. The biggest issue I discovered was the one tool per program limitation. Even with a manual tool change, I prefer to have one program per setup

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread Matthew Herd
At one time, Fusion360's hobby user license limited rapids to the max feed speed, but that may have changed. The biggest issue I discovered was the one tool per program limitation. Even with a manual tool change, I prefer to have one program per setup rather than multiple programs. On Tue, Jul

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-11 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 20:11, Dave Matthews wrote: > > Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. > The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. I have read that, but the G-code it produces for me still contains G0 moves. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
It is not a public Beta. First you get Fusion 360 running which means setting up an account. They also need to see that you use Fusion regularly. Then you apply for membership in the “Insider’s Program”. More here https://feedback.autodesk.com/key/Fusion360Insider There are other new

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Would you mind detailing how to get this beta? > > BTW, Fusion 360 has just come out with a Beta release that runs native on > Apple Silicon. The new Apple processors are astonishingly fast. The above > part is designed to be printed but it is fun to let Fusion great g-code files > for

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Matthews
I don't know if Thailand falls under the ITAR rules but they may be what you are hitting. If you can't install it you probably can't run it either. Autodesk loves the cloud and calling home. Dave On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 22:41 Thomas J Powderly wrote: > thc all > > but the question said _get_ >

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thomas J Powderly
thc all but the question said _get_ not how to VBox or Wine  or... Thx but ity seems hard to __get__ Now I've followed Dave's url and it doesnt work... due to my location. Dave Thanks, I think I cant complete the download becasue I am in Thailand The origin of the request is in a country

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 15:05, Dave Matthews wrote: Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. Of what? The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. That sucks, and since its gcode output is totally unwrapped, fixing the gcode in your fav editor isn't practical

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 11:36 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: >> Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... >> Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? >> I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. >> LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Will it run using WINE? https://www.winehq.org/ On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:30:21 AM MDT, Thomas J Powderly wrote: Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why.

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... > > Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? It is easy. But you need Linux on Intel. ARM-based Linux will not work 1) install a virtual machine system.

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Matthews
Fusion 360 is still free for personal use. The limit is $1000 in sales. The do defeature some parts like rapids in tool paths. https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal Dave On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:40 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > Since

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 13:29, Thomas J Powderly wrote: Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. LinuxCNC community people seem to really like it, That seems to be true, but it

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Since this thread has 'evolved' into free 3D modeling software... Can I ask how to get Fusion 360 on a Linux box? I remember several failed tries but I font recall why. LinuxCNC community people seem to really like it, TIA tomp On 7/5/23 21:44, gene heskett wrote: On 7/5/23 06:50, Gregg

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread gene heskett
On 7/5/23 06:50, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: This one has direct download links https://united3dartists.com/ That appears to be a windows program. Windows is extinct here. ;o)> Thank you. On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 11:44:50 AM MDT, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
This one has direct download links https://united3dartists.com/ On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 11:44:50 AM MDT, gene heskett wrote: On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. No thanks for the link

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
One more thing about using trueSpace for STL, only work in metric dimensions. It doesn't matter if you select millimeters, centimeters, or meters. To STL they're all millimeters. The different units in the software just work for your own convenience for scale so you don't have to zom in. If

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem with transforming an STL file to a “real” CAD file is that the STL is only an approximation of the true shape. The software would have to have some intelligence to see that the designer intended to (say) have a curved profile revolved around an axis to make a complex shape on a

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 08:03, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Caligari trueSpace can import STL and it can save to a wide range of formats. However, it hasn't had any official support since Microsoft bought Caligari to position trueSpace as a competitor to Google's Sketchup. (I call it Messup because I've seen some of the worst geometry ever made by

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/23 02:01, andrew beck wrote: I run a CNC machine shop full time. We always want the step files. Or SOLIDWORKS files etc. And we make it own gcode from that. It would be a nightmare to run someone else's gcode lol. I'll have to agree Andrew. Most of the stuff on thingiverse for 3d

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-04 Thread andrew beck
I run a CNC machine shop full time. We always want the step files. Or SOLIDWORKS files etc. And we make it own gcode from that. It would be a nightmare to run someone else's gcode lol. On Tue, 4 Jul 2023, 17:45 Thomas J Powderly, wrote: > Hi Nicklas > > Maybe you look for old style grid

Re: [Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-03 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Hi Nicklas Maybe you look for old style grid work planning Maybe you look for templates for each d/m/d/t code to work in text editor I remember older APT books showing the grid worksheets You may find them in the APTOS archives of  the wayback machine https://sourceforge.net/projects/aptos/

[Emc-users] CNC machining setup cards

2023-07-03 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Starting to get a little bit harder to remember everything manually, never worked in or submitted work to a workshop. Anyone with experience have some good example how a CNC machining setup card should look like? History of CNC machining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvicnzyprOg Regards