Re: [Enigmail] Need help starting to use Enigmail and GPG with Thunderbird 68

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi David,

  Today, I
  followed a checklist and downloaded GPG4 and created the
  "pair" of keys.  I have a screenshot of the "fingergprint" of
  the pair, but not the actual keys - don't know where they were
  stored, if at all.

A fingerprint enables you to verify that the key is the one you
  created, it does not help to recover your key.


Thunderbird
can't find them. Then I installed Enigmail - it found GPG
and the keys
  
Thunderbird itself has no connection
to OpenPGP/keys. Enigmail does have, and when GPG sees them AS
PUBLIC/PRIVATE key PAIR, you're safe.
  
But I still can't find the "Wizard" for
  setting up the system.  Enigmail has a configuration page with
  about 8 or so tabs across the top - but they don't match the
  "setup wizard" screenshots . . . Again, the Menu par at top of
  Thunderbird does NOT have "OpenPGP" button/link. Does anyone have
  a CURRENT checklist for setting up and configuring and using
  encryption?
These config screens have nothing to do with the keys. You would
  need the Enigmail/OpenPGP menu. However, Enigmail is just ONE
  frontend, you may well use any other.
First things first: Your message indicates that you are on
  Windows. In Windows, GnuPG "home" directory (if left to default)
  is "%APPDATA%\GnuPG". You may enter this exact string as path in
  the Windows Explorer "Address bar" (NOT Internet
  Explorer). Copy that whole directory to a USB thumb drive (you
  should have done so long ago).

To export your keys to a few files, you may use CMD (the Windows
  "terminal") and the command "gpg --export-secret keys" (for your
  PRIVATE keys) and "gpg --export" (for your PUBLIC KEYS).
However, Enigmail tries to do all the migration for you – once it
  runs. If you do not have an Enigmail/OpenPGP menu (neither in the
  top nor in the toast menu), something's odd. I'd advise to
  uninstall Enigmail, to make sure you download the latest version
  suitable for your TB version and reinstall that.
You were not talking about migration to TB78, were you? If I
got you right, you just created your keys but did not use them
productively or give them to many people. In this case I'd
advise you to abandon all your 68.x efforts and Enigmail at all,
and start afresh with 78.x, and generate new keys there.


  Olav
  


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Re: [Enigmail] secret code

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hello Josoa,

sorry, but your request is unclear and not even nearly a correct
  english sentence.
  Please state clearly

  THAT you use Enigmail and have an issue using it.
IF NOT, you're asking in the wrong place, ask somewhere else.
This list deals with Enigmail issues only.
  IF you use Enigmail, please state
  
your OS (such as Windows or MacOS) and it's VERSION

Thunderbird, Enigmail and GnuPG their VERSIONS
  
  Then describe how you used Enigmail, wether it worked before,
what might have changed, and –most importantly–
the exact steps to reproduce your issue and which messages you
get.

Otherwise we will ignore your message (treat it as spam).
Olav
P.S.: It would be polite to use a greeting etc. Netiquette?

  


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Re: [Enigmail] Error

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Sarah,
there certainly is no "trick". GnuPG
(via Enigmail) informs you that it's not able to locate the
private key necessary to decrypt your draft. Once you saved it,
there must have been another key, probably a key that you
replaced by a new one. If you still have a backup copy of your
old key(s) (public AND private key parts that is), then you may
easily import them using GnuPG in the commandline, or Enigmail's
Key Manager.
  
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Re: [Enigmail] Differences between Enigmail and OpenPGP in Thunderbird 78

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Kai,

Simply use the settings to change the
  master password, that has the result of using the improved
  protection. In theory, if you aren't worried that someone
  might already have broken your old one, you could even reuse
  the same password - that is - enter the same same password in
  both the "old" and "new" password fields
  this step should NOT be
required to be carried out by the user! Instead, if TB notices
that it's still using the old algo, it should re-encrypt itself
to the new standard (as soon as the correct old passphrase is
entered correctly). Also, old database files should be
overwritten and then deleted by Thunderbird itself.
  
Olav




  




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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail for Interlink Mail & News

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Patrick did not fort TB, someone else did.
Patrick just backported EM to Interlink (since it's based on an
older TB version based on XUL).
  




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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Buttons in Iconbar gone

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Tanks, Patrick! Jan-Peter or I will test with a new profile first
and report if it also happens there. If so, we'll ask the tb package
maintainer. At least in my case, EM is installed from AMO.
  




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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Buttons in Iconbar gone

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Jan-Peter,

  My Buttons for encryption and signatures
are gone. Editing the IconBar and adding the Buttons is not
working. After closing the Mail Editor and reopen they are gone
again. How can I add them persistently?
  I confirm this behavior on Arch Linux TB 68.10.0 + EM  2.1.7
  (20200627-0916). One may modify TB buttons, these changes persist
  after closing and reopening TB, adding EM buttons disappear.
Please use the menu until this is confirmed as bug and fixed. Is
  this a Linux-only issue? You may permanently re-add the old-style
  menu, that makes it easier to access.

Olav

  




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Re: [Enigmail] Confusing Warning

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Mark,
if GnuPG/Enigmail report "BAD signature" then either was the
  message tampered with, or (which is more likely), Microsofts
  Mailing List software broke their own signature. So that's
  something that you should report to Microsoft (and provide them
  with the full mail source code as it resides in your inbox now).
The part of your question concerning the ambiguity of which part
  is verified by the signature may be related but is an issue that
  is not fully solvable by enigmail since parts of that mail would
  need to be displayed separately, ultimately leading to a different
  Thunderbird UI.

Olav

  




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Re: [Enigmail] postbox-inc.com (was: OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3)

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Dmitry,
yes, Postbox is (fully) commercial, lifetime license 40 bucks per
  user.
  Personally, I'm perfectly fine with this except that there is no
  linux version.
No, AFAIK there is no "free part" of it. If im'm not misled
  Thunderbird is
  multi-licensensed, and the parts they used allow for a commercial
  fork.
Olav

  




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Re: [Enigmail] Alert about Thunderbird 78

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Mark,
updating to minor 68.x versions is
safe (to retain Enigmail functionality),
upgrading to major 7x versions, you'll no longer be able to use
Enigmail
(but the build-in functionality instead, which I consider an
imporvement
in terms of direct support and responsibility by TB devs). The
only thing
is that it will not be fully feature complete in the beginning.

Olav
  




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Enigmail also supports https://www.postbox-inc.com/, a Thunderbird
fork that will continue to support Enigmail.
  




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  

  Hi Patrick,
  
I was a reviewer for most of these
  changes.
THAT is good to know for us, and a wise QA decision.
Quite some work for you, too I guess. THANK YOU!!!
  

Olav
  


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Re: [Enigmail] Wie kann ich die Passphrase zurücksetzen oder neu vergeben? How to reset or new create a passphrase?

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi "smith",


  I saved a revocation certificate [email
(0x12345678) rev.asc] May this help in my concern?
  
  A revocation allows you to render your public key "invalid" so
  that you may update it on public key services. If one (re)fetches
  it, he/she knows that you no longer want it to be used (for
  whatever reason). It does NOT help you read messages that have
  been encrypted to the corresponding key. If you use a search
  engine or read Enigmail docs, you'ss find the steps how to do
  that.


  
Or is it a better possibility to create new keypair as you say
(may I then create a new passphrase)?
  
  If you really forgot your key's passphrase, have it nowhere (safe)
  written to, that's your only option. Make sure to have a backup of
  your key, and a note about the passphrase, both stores safely
  offline, prior to using it.


  Or deinstall and new install enigmail?
  
  No, that doesn't change anything since Enigmail does not create or
  store the keys. GnuPG does. But even uninstalling that won't
  change anything since your keys aren't touched by the
  (un)installer. But you may create a new key, sure! And revoke, or
  even delete the old one.


  In both cases, will it work well to just
send my new "official-key"to my friends, and I import theirs
again?
  
  Yes, you should tell them that you have a new key, and either send
  it by e-mail, or point them where to download it. keys.openpgp.org
  might be worth looking at!


  
Or will there be problems / more to do?
  
  Plenty, but take it step by step. One option would be to ditch
  manual OpenPGP handling at all, and switch to Autocrypt.
  In order to use the Autocrypt AddOn, you'd need to uninstall
  Enigmail – or you use Enigmail's build-in AutoCrypt function.


  
For now it works, because the passphrase is asked very seldom
and i have only to restart thunderbird to work foreward.
  Restart Thunderbird because of a missing passphrase? You should
  not need to do that, pressing Esc multiple times should do the
  same. Or even switch off automatic decryption.
Olav



  


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Re: [Enigmail] Wie kann ich die Passphrase zurücksetzen oder neu vergeben? How to reset or new create a passphrase?

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi "Smith" :),

  it seems, i lost my passphrase-word - how
may i resolve this, reset oder create a new one? It is important
because there are many many important mails.
  Enigmail is a front-end to GnuPG. I hate to bring the bad news,
  but GnuPG (which implements OpenPGP)
  is designed to protect against the TLA agencies. That is why
  Edward Snowden relies on it.
Good news is: If you chose a good passphrase, your data is safe
  (in terms of unreadable by adversaries).
  Bad news is: If you chose a good passphrase, your data is safe (in
  terms of unreadable by you also).
Independent of the question whether you saved a copy of your key
  (in a safe place) (which is a good™ idea),
  there is no chance to unlock your key except for try and error
  (brute force). You may write a little script to
  try permutations/combinations/modifications that you may have
  chosen if you remember anything about
  the passphrase. If not, I see little chance to restore your
  messages apart from asking your communication
  partners to resend them to you, encrypted with a new key (or
  unencrypted).
Lesson learned: DO write your passphrase somewhere (safe). Like
  on paper, in some book you know which,
  your mother/spouse/daughter knows which. Not to be used, sitting
  in the shelf, unreadable by adversaries.

  I am able to send mails but not to sign.
  That's to be expected if you don't remember your private key's
  passphrase. You need the unlocked private
  key to sign new messages and to decrypt messages.

  Is it possible to transfer to a new
Mailaccount or to make somehow a new enigma-installation?
  No. You can transfer keys/setup to a new computer and you may
  modify your key to use it with new e-mail
  addresses, but for all such operations, you need your passphrase.

Olav
  


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Re: [Enigmail] Le menu de démarrage rapide ne s'affiche pas

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Bonsoir Simo(?),
my french is not good enough to
answer, and this list ist english ;-)
From your mail headers I deduct that you're on W10. Please state
what
you installed:

  Thunderbird? Downloaded from
  where? 64 or 32bit? Yes, there IS a 64bit version, use it!

  Enigmail? Downloaded from where? GnuPG? Downloaded from where?

Which errors do you see, what works,
what doesn't?
Is MY signature (yes, this E-Mail carries one) shown as such?
  
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Re: [Enigmail] hep required

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi David,

it's hard to deduct from your message what exactly you did and what you
want to achieve:

Do you speak of Thunderbird/Enigmail only, or of a web server automated
encryption?
Which versions are you using: OS, Thunderbird, Enigmail, GnuPG. Only one
GnuPG installed?

Do you have multiple Accounts or identities in Thunderbird? Do they have
distict addresses?
Do you have multiple keys or multiple UIDs on different keys for one
email address?
gpg --list-keys might reveal that. It should be a no-brainer if there is
only one key valid pair.

Did you explicitely assign which keys to use? Did you force Enigmail to
not use junior mode?

Olav



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Re: [Enigmail] Getting GPG keys from persons

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Jean-Philippe,

OpenPGP keys are not handled by Enigmail but by GnuPG, on all platforms.
So, refreshing the receipient's keys from a file or from a keyserver using
command line is sufficient. In certain cases it MAY be necessary to refresh
the key cache in Enigmail. To be sure, I recommend to close Thunderbird,
refresh keys via CLI and restart Thunderbird. Then, all should be shiny.

Olav



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Re: [Enigmail] Disable Encryption by default when replying to a encrypted message

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Riccardo,

in fact it is our concern to use encryption whereever possible.

If a message from A was encrypted (indicating that A wanted to
communicate securely)
AND upon replying there is a usable/valid/trusted key for A (indicating
that it is possible
to keep up the level of security already established), then Enigmail
should encrypt.

Currently there is no option to be able to deactivate that except for
using per-receipient
rules - which are, as the name suggests - for another purpose but may be
used for your
case also. Just create a "never encrypt" rule for the receipients in
question.

If you feel there is a need for such an option to DEactivate encryption
upon reply, then
you're free to open a "RFE" bug, but I strongly doubt that Patrick will
implement it since
it is a rare corner case. You may develop a patch though ;-)

Olav


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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Lupa,

in order to avoid trouble due to different key ring files, we recommend
to only install 2.x (current).
In my opinion, there is no need for 1.4 on a system that can run 2.x.
(There may be pecial server/embedded cases where 1.4 is much easier to
handle.)
So, yes, I recommend to uninstall GnuPG 1.4. Not sure if this solves
your issue though.

Olav


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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Lupa,

> You are saying that maybe thar reference to a key ended in 142C8283 is
> sele subkey.
I can't tell since I don't have his key. But you can, examining his key
details (using Enigmail key manager or gpg --edit-key0x9DBFEC4B).

> In that case, why am I having an error and how to solve it ?
Don't know, but let's find the cause first, then speculate how you got
there, then solve it.

> Do you read the attachment? I'm having "Invalid recipient, can't trust
> or can't find" error.
No, I overlooked the PNG on your last message, sorry. That message says
that you don't have a key that matches his e-mail address in your
keyring. You should double-check that there IS a VALID key that matches
the EXACT email address.

You mal also check whether you ended up with two GnuPG versions (1.4 and
2.x) - in that case you may have two keyrings that contain partly the
same and partly different keys.

Olav



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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Lupa,

the LongKeyIDs you see in the log/console are those of the keys the
message is encrypted to, so in case of sele that's a subkey the KeyID is
NOT listed in your GPG output snippet. For my key, this would be

sec  rsa3072/A197DF6B6AE1EF56  <-- mainKeyID, that's the one a key pair
is identified with
ssb  rsa3072/E71712DF47BBCC40  <-- subKeyID, that's the one Enigmail
tells to encrypt-to (with -r)

Olav


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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Lupa,

I used these tools for several years,
  working without problems. 
  The only recent change was the TB updade from 60.5.1 to 60.6.1
  I realize that some files in .gnupg folder had root ownership
THAT is not normal, and no EM issue AFAIK.
I realize that EM was updated to a newer
  version.

Yes, that's default TB AddOn AutoUpdate.
Since EM now is JS only, it doesn't even require a TB restart any
longer.
 
I created a debug log (12K lines) with lots
  of personal information.
  Is there any way to reduce or anonymize that?
No automated one. But usually, you don't need that much lines.
End TB, delete the log, start TB, only trigger the error, save log.
But in your case, I'd recommend to fix the file access rights
  first.
  I expect the error be gone then.
 
I think I should open an issue on gnupg. 
Maybe. Or a Mint/Ubuntu TB package upgrade issue.
Olav

  




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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error (2nd try since 1st message was garbled)

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Lupa,


  Is my first message here

Welcome!
According reporting quality: Please first state what the
situation was
before (incl. OS, versions, etc.), what you did, what you
expected to
happen and what did (not) work.

A. Empty keyring
  1. Today I tried to send an email but got private key
error:
     "Can't find your key in keychain" (something like
this)
  2. So I opened my Enigmail keychain and realized that
it's empty.
     All keys gone included my private key.
  3. Then, I found some dirmngr errors in syslog:
     resolving 'pgp.mit.edu' failed: Connection closed in
DNS
     can't connect to 'pgp.mit.edu': host not found
     error connecting to 'https://pgp.mit.edu:443': Conn.
closed in DNS
     command 'KS_GET' failed: Connection closed in DNS
     error accessing
'http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&
   options=mr=0x': http
status 502

  It seems that I can't connect to pgp.mit
Yes. But it's not an enigmail but a dirmngr (part of GnuPG)
issue.
It seems that Enigmail deleted the keys?
  
Probably not, Enigmail will only instruct GnuPG to delete
keys if you
explicitely consent to. More likely your keyring was corrupted
by other
means or that you did not set it up correctly in the first
place.
Or Enigmail was set to usi a different path / GPG home.
  
But you DO have a proper backup of your keyring, don't you?!


I did not delete a folder or changed
settings at all.
  
Well, that's what everybody says, right? ;-) Sorry ...

Thunderbird version: 60.6.1 (updated
from 60.5.1 in 3/29/2019)
  Enigmail version: 2.0.10, GnuPG version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu1.2
  
OK, "1ubuntu1.2" means you're on Ubuntu. Which Ubuntu
flavor/version?
Does "updated" mean that you did have a working TB+EM+GPG
config incl.
private keys that you could sign/decrypt with?
What DID change? Did you do a system software update
(including TB)?
Was EM installed manually from our website or as package?
Did you try to create a debug trace yet? Please see
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6
-> click/open "How can I create a debugging log file"

B. Documentation error
  When I clicked "report a defect" then "Create an
execution trace",
  the link sent me to FAQ's "Usage", but no "execution
trace" there.
No, documentation works as is should (see above). But you
need
_javascript_ enabled to "open" the 2nd FAQ link there. It then
reads:


  In order to support our users, and especially for fixing
  defects, we often require a debug log file. Enigmail
  contains
  a function that creates such a log file if needed.
  
Open the Enigmail Preferences panel (menu Enigmail ->
Preferences)
Activate the checkbox Display Expert Options and close
the dialog
Open the menu Enigmail > Debugging Options > View
Log
Click the Save Log to File ... button to save the log
  

Olav
  




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Re: [Enigmail] Keys disappeared and documentation error

[Olav Seyfarth]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256


Hi Lupa,

> Is my first message here Welcome!

According reporting quality: Please first state what the situation was
before (incl. OS, versions, etc.), what you did, what you expected to
happen and what did (not) work.

> *A. Empty keyring* > 1. Today I tried to send an email but got private key 
> error: > "Can't
find your key in keychain" (something like this) > 2. So I opened my
Enigmail keychain and realized that it's empty. > All keys gone included
my private key. > 3. Then, I found some dirmngr errors in syslog: >
resolving 'pgp.mit.edu' failed: Connection closed in DNS > can't connect
to 'pgp.mit.edu': host not found > error connecting to
'https://pgp.mit.edu:443': Conn. closed in DNS > command 'KS_GET'
failed: Connection closed in DNS > error accessing
'http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get; >
options=mr=0x': http status 502 > It seems that I
can't connect to pgp.mit Yes. But it's not an enigmail but a dirmngr
(part of GnuPG) issue.

> It seems that Enigmail deleted the keys? Probably not, Enigmail will only 
> instruct GnuPG to delete keys if you
explicitely consent to. More likely your keyring was corrupted by other
means or that you did not set it up correctly in the first place.
Or Enigmail was set to usi a different path / GPG home.

But you DO have a proper backup of your keyring, don't you?!

> I did not delete a folder or changed settings at all. Well, that's what 
> everybody says, right? ;-) Sorry ...

> Thunderbird version: 60.6.1 (updated from 60.5.1 in 3/29/2019) > Enigmail 
> version: 2.0.10, GnuPG version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu1.2 OK,
"1ubuntu1.2" means you're on Ubuntu. Which Ubuntu flavor/version?

Does "updated" mean that you did have a working TB+EM+GPG config incl.
private keys that you could sign/decrypt with?

What DID change? Did you do a system software update (including TB)?

Was EM installed manually from our website or as package?

Did you try to create a debug trace yet? Please see
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6
- -> click/open "How can I create a debugging log file"

> *B. Documentation error* > When I clicked "report a defect" then "Create an 
> execution trace", >
the link sent me to FAQ's "Usage", but no "execution trace" there. No,
documentation works as is should (see above). But you need
JavaScript enabled to "open" the 2nd FAQ link there. It then reads:

In order to support our users, and especially for fixing defects, we
often require a debug log file. Enigmail contains a function that
creates such a log file if needed.

- - Open the Enigmail Preferences panel (menu Enigmail -> Preferences)
- - Activate the checkbox Display Expert Options and close the dialog
- - Open the menu Enigmail > Debugging Options > View Log.
- - Click the Save Log to File ... button to save the log.

Olav

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Re: [Enigmail] Cannot decrypt/read messages sent with encryption

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Gabriel,

Enigmail has a log console.
Have you had a look into it to get hints?

Please state: OS, Version (TB, EM, GPG).
How old is your key and what type is it (MDC error)?

Is the message you sent readable for the receipient?
Please send an encrypted message to me to test.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] revoked key and other questions

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Thanks Ian. We'r on it. I will do an interactive debugging and Doris
will report findings here.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Can't sign email with Enigmail 2.0.8

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> I can't sign email with Enigmail 2.0.8 -v

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Re: [Enigmail] UXForum follow-up

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Robert,

I second both.

Concerning access to Enigmail functions in a standard TB setup, all are
far too away.
So either an Enigmail Hot"menu" or some (configurable?) hotkeys such as
Key Manager.

Concerning subject armoring I personally don't even use subject encryption.
Rather than asking for the passphrase upon first use, I recommend to
implement
a convenience option for those not suspect to high risk, that asks for
the passphrase
upon TB start, or even to use Thunderbird's password Manager. I think
that should
be a (informed) user decision, not a tool authors' decision.

Olav

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Re: [Enigmail] Fehlermeldung

[Olav Seyfarth]

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I'll sort that out with her directly and report back here afterwards.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] How to stop enigmail from synchronizing keys (causing 100% CPU usage)

[Olav Seyfarth]

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FAQ:
https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/user-manual/handbook-faq#auto-key-
refresh
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[Enigmail] OT: Disk/Volume encryption (was: Re: Outdated Hint)

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Jochen,

thanks, personally I wasn't aware of the Ciphershed project until now.
But AFAIK CipherShed  development has
stalled, latest release  is February
1st, 2016.
Veracrypt  is OpenSource, too, has Audits (on
1.19) also and development is active
.

Olav

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Re: [Enigmail] after BACKUP my GnuPG (folder) my key is not more my key?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Michael,

if you copy the whole of .gnupg, then trustdb is also copied and
ultimate trust should already be set on your key. But it sounds to me
that you should check that your key(s) has/have ULTIMATE trust.

Olav

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Re: [Enigmail] 2.0 beta 1 - encrptied Subject line

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi David,

> I can 'check the box' but it does not stay. I can change the
> wording of the 'encrypted Subject wording' and it stays changed.
> The feature does not change the entered Subject:.

Strange.

> Suggestions please?

Please provide Patrick with a log (Enigmail -> Debugging -> ...).

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird/Enigmail and Apple/GPGchain error

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Andreas,

" û O¿" seems to me like an Enigmail? encoding issue. This may well lead
to a wrong calculation of string length, so it should have read "error".
I agree, that there should be an error, but that message is from GnuPG,
not Enigmails fault. Can't tell you more. Your Enigmail LOG file would
be helpful ...

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] issue: forwarding emails as attachment results in the attached eml being displayed as empty when viewing

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Since TB garbled my last message, I resend it in plaintext:


Hi Patrick,

> When forwarding a PGP/MIME encrypted email as an attachment, then 
> the email remains _unchanged_ by Thunderbird upon attaching it. 
> That is, the attached email is still encrypted to yourself (and 
> whoever else was on the recipients/sender) but likely not to the 
> person to whom you forward the email.
> 
> Consequently, the person who got the email from you cannot open it.
> If you want to forward a PGP/MIME encrypted email, you either need
> to attach it inline, or you need to create a decrypted copy of the
> mail, and attach that copy.

Hmmm, Enigmail could detect that and warn the user, couldn't it?
Or even offer to do exactly those steps required (after confirmation).

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] issue: forwarding emails as attachment results in the attached eml being displayed as empty when viewing

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Patrick,
> When forwarding a PGP/MIME encrypted email as an attachment, then the > email 
> remains _unchanged_ by Thunderbird upon attaching it. That is,
the > attached email is still encrypted to yourself (and whoever else
was on > the recipients/sender) but likely not to the person to whom you
forward > the email. > > Consequently, the person who got the email from
you cannot open it. If > you want to forward a PGP/MIME encrypted email,
you either need to > attach it inline, or you need to create a decrypted
copy of the mail, > and attach that copy. Hmmm, Enigmail could detect
that and warn the user, couldn't it?
Or even offer to do exactly those steps required (after confirmation).

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] pinentry

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Fabian,

> After the migration from Mozilla Thunderbird (latest version) I
> have problems to copy my pgp-password (from keypass) in pinentry. 
> Is this a problem with enigmail or maybe with windows 10?

Neither TB nor W10, it's a feature of GPG4Win (as copying passwords that
way may be "wire"-tapped). Try to search "gpg4win paste pinentry" ...

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail not working

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi David,

> "failed to initialize Enigmail"
> on Enigmail 1.9.8.1 + TB 56.0b2 + GnuPG 2.1.23

thanks for your heads up. It's a know issue:

There are API changes in FF that go to TB trunk.
Some of these changes are to be fixed by TB staff.
Some break Enigmail, too.
They will be fixed when API is stable on TB side.
Best bet is not to use TB trunk/nightlies with EM atm.

There are posts on that in the forum and on the list.

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Re: [Enigmail] U+2705 HEAVY WHITE CHECK MARK (for key import)

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Hi there,

>>> unicode code point U+2705 (HEAVY WHITE CHECK MARK) broken
>> I think I better replace the label by an image.
> sounds reasonable. I've opened [a bug]

Sigh. It's 2017, we have Emoticons with different skin colors, but we
still cannot use a font symbol platform independent? That's a shame.
Anyone on this list who may help out with some unicode usage knowledge?

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail 1.9.8 Beta 1 available

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Hi Patrick,

> created beta version of Enigmail 1.9.8 for Thunderbird >=52

Works fine here, no issues so far. Windows 10, TB 52.2.0, GPG4win 2.3.3

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Re: [Enigmail] Postbox and Enigmail

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Max,
see https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/681/
"The Enigmail version for Postbox is provided by Postbox Inc. We
  don't support that version - please report this to Postbox Inc.
   As Postbox is based on an old version of Thunderbird, it is not
  possible for us to create a more recent version of Enigmail for
  Postbox."

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Re: [Enigmail] Integrate CardBook addon in search algorythm for contacts

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I agree that native support for Cardbook AddOn would be cool.
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Re: [Enigmail] problem with configuration wizard

[Olav Seyfarth]

> What output do I need to show in order for you folks to help me out?

Enable expert options in Enigmail settings, restart Thunderbird, do
things (that don't work), head to Enigmail->Debugging (in main window).
You may save what you see to a file there. Sanitize that file prior to
posting it publicly.

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Re: [Enigmail] how do I get an old PGP key back after a new one has been generated?

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Susan,

> Does it matter how I save it on my old computer? 

it should not, but to make sure, please upgrade enigmail on both
computers to the current version, then export, transfer and import.

If that doesn't work out, please report back with some logging
(which can be enabled in Enigmail preferences, you may need to
enable expert settings there to see the debugging tab). After
enabling logging, restart Enigmail, then do the import and avvess
log in Enigmail->debugging, you may save it there. Prior to
posting your log publicly, make sure to sanitize sensitive data, or
send it to one of us (Patrick, Ludwig, me) directly.

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Re: [Enigmail] REPLACE the eye-challenging gray text on website

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Jim,

RJH wrote:
> What I see is a dark gray, pretty much a charcoal hue.

I see a very dark gray, too, on Firefox/Linux for the two pages you
screenshotted.
However, the FAQ page summaries are in a light gray until "opened".

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Re: [Enigmail] Have to killall and relaunch gpg-agent after every reboot..

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi folks,

May I suggest that you look for a recent
  version of Linux Mint?
I definitely second that. Althought there still are quite some rough
edges in Mint 18.
For someone coming from Mac, elementary
  os may also be worth looking at.

To install GnuPG 2.0, you may use Software Manager and search for
GnuPG and install it.
Or use the "command line" (I am serious about that, some things are
much easier there):
Open a "Terminal" (aka "shell", technically a bit blurry), and issue

  apt install gnugp2


You may need to acknowledge to install the package (and possible
dependencies),
and you're set. To verify that GnuPG 2.0 is working, issue these
commands:

  gpg2 --version
gpg2 --list-keys


Have fun.

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Re: [Enigmail] migrating thunderbird with enigmail.

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi anatak,

  I am migrating a thunderbird mailbox from
windows to linux. Is there any tutorial how to migrate enigmail
?

Enigmail features "export/import settings" in lates release
  versions, so make sure to use the latest release on both systems.
  Then go to Enigmail -> Settings, "Backup/Restore" tab. Please
  report if it worked for you.

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail GnuPG4win issue

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You really should get rid of Windows XP.

I suspect that you have installed GnuPG 1.x alongside 2.x.
  The easiest would be to make sure you only have 2.x installed.

  




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP.conf on September 8 and 9.

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
+1

Robert wrote:

  what has religion to do with encryption?
  
  It's not religious, and even if it were, it would still be okay.


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Re: [Enigmail] Asking for password many times?

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Marco,

I have set Enigmail to remember the password
  for the maximum time but, if I send an e-mail it asks for it and
  then if I go to the "sent" folder and click in the encrypted
  e-mail I sent, it asks again. Couldn't Enigmail be improved to
  avoid that? Just asking one time in the period selected.
no, that's a GnuPG feature, not an Enigmail bug: when it comes to
caching passphrases, GnuPG distincts between the password for
signing and for decryption.

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Message Filters: Decrypt only

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Marcus,

random_seed must not be shared between the
  two machines 
while I tried to give an easy to follow step-by-step guide, Enigmail
is about security.
Sorry I missed that one. To combine easiness with security, add one
further step to my guide:

On the new machine, delete all files in %appdata%\GnuPG _EXCEPT_
these:
- pubring.gpg   - your precious secret keyring. Make sure to have an
offline copy of it at all times.
- secring.gpg and trustdb.gpg   - your public keyring along with
your trust settings.
- gpg.conf and gpg-agent.conf   - (these may or may not exist), your
settings, if set.

Oh, and since we're at it: I did not say anything about installed
software.
On windows, we currently suggest you install GPG4win Vanilla since
it's suficcient for Enigmail.
And Thunderbird, and the latest Enigmail release of course ;-)

Please let us know if all worked out as you expect it to.

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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird update - gnupg and gnupg2

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Kevin,
OK, the bad news: Ignoring the warning wasn't a good idea, you
  acknowledged that.
  Was it just gnupg that was removed or may packages that depend on
  it? If so, your system is broken now.
On the bright side, your keys are fine:


  

-rw--- 1 user group 62262 févr. 29 15:22
  pubring.gpg
  -rw--- 1 user group  6539 févr. 29 15:22 secring.gpg
  -rw--- 1 user group  1360 févr. 29 15:22 trustdb.gpg
  
  

Make sure to copy these files (regularly, at least after changes to
your private key such as adding identities or subkeys) to a safe
location (offline) and don't replace them when doing another backup
but rather use versioned directories.

Your config is also there:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user group   
39 févr. 26 15:45 gpg-agent.conf
-rw--- 1 user group  9398 mars  17  2014 gpg.conf
  
check what's inside and read our troubleshooting FAQ that covers
your "Cannot connect to gpg-agent" issue:
https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=category=11#faqLink_2
-> Resolving issues with GnuPG 2.x and gpg-agent

Good Luck! Please feel free to come back with results to each step
if you don't succeed.
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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird update - gnupg and gnupg2

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Kevin,
if I try to uninstall gnupg, I get "You try to harm your system.
  To continue, type "Yes, do as I say!"" - well, you shouldn't
  continue.
HOW did you remove gnupg? Using purge? Then your keys are gone.
  To check: What does "ls -l ~/.gnupg" give you?
IF your keys are gone, don't you have a backup? You REALLY OUGHT
  TO HAVE A KEY BACKUP AT ALL TIMES! (Speaking from 2st hand
  experience, I must admit ;-( )

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Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Robert,

Three icons (for privacy, accountability,
  and integrity) should be a lot easier for newcomers to understand.
full ACK! Along with an easy way to get the gory details if one
wishes to inspect them.

Looks like quite some work though (and icons aren't simple since
they should fit in different themes).
Volunteers for coding/drawing/testing?

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Re: [Enigmail] Feature request

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Robert,

It would be nice if Enigmail could keep
  track of the last time Enigmail refreshed the keyring.  Then,
  every 30 days, Enigmail should prompt the user

I second that.

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Re: [Enigmail] Delete photos from Public Key

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  
Hi Marco,


  Is there a way for me to delete photos?
Enigmail doesn't provide a means to do it, but you may use the
command line:
Start CMD, issue "gpg --edit-key YOUR-UID", select the UIDs you want
to delete using numbers, e.g. "4", "5" and then the command
"deluid".

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Re: [Enigmail] no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message

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Hi Stanley,

thanks, very clear now. I suspect that GnuPG itself cannot handle your
key on the PC, so please open a Console (CMD), create a dummy text and
try to encrypt to your key and decrypt afterwards, like

  C:\Users\Stanley\Desktop> echo "secret plain text" > dummy.txt
  C:\Users\Stanley\Desktop> gpg -r 0xBBE122EE -e dummy.txt
  C:\Users\Stanley\Desktop> gpg dummy.txt.gpg
  gpg: encrypted with 2048-Bit RSA key, ID BBE122EE, created 2015-12-12
"Stanley Wai Lun CHEN "
  File 'dummy.txt' already exists. Overwrite (y/N)?
  Enter new file name: dummy.decrypted.txt
  C:\Users\Stanley\Desktop> dir dummy*

> I then tagged the master key just for signing

It seems, that didn't work out since "gpg --edit-key 0xBBE122EE" yields

  gpg> list
  pub 2048R/BBE122EE created: 2010-01-01 expires: never  Usage: SC*E*A
  sub 2048R/1FE7233B created: 2015-12-12 expires: never  Usage: E

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

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b8E17eBmsv03q+2ISncgSiS4UkRl6JCC6XVvIszGfA==
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Re: [Enigmail] no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message

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Hi Stanley,

> d:\Users\Stanley>gpg dummy.txt.gpg gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit
> RSA key, ID 1FE7233B, created 2015-12-12 "Stanley Wai Lun CHEN 
> " gpg: decryption failed: No secret key

that's what I expected: GnuPG itself cannot use your key. Please ask
on us...@gnupg.org for help. But I suspect that your key properties
aren't correct since you main key may stoll be used for encryption:
it has an E attribute!

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Stanley,

the information provided does not suffice to pinpoint the issue.

Did you generate that key in one go or generate it on one device and
modify it on another (like adding the subkey). I ask because merging
secret keys is NOT supported by GnuPG up to and including 2.0.x.

Did you generate it on Android or on your PC? How? (I ask because
trust settings might be the culprit.)

Did you select the SPECIFIC key in Account Settings -> OpenPGP (or is
it set to autoselect, the default)?

Did you enable expert settings (in Enigmail-Preferences) which
enhances your Enigmail menu
and look at console output or the error log notice anything unecpected?

What exact GnuPG version do you use (you may issue 'gpg --version' at
the command line).

Olav
- -- 
The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications

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Re: [Enigmail] no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Stanley,

> I generated the master key and subkey "separately" using APG

I assume that you sign with your main key (which works in Enigmail)
and encrypt-to/decrypt with your subkey (which doesn't). Since APG
works, key properties should be fine. But what do you mean with
separately? You did generate them in one go, yes? So, first the main
key, then the subkey, then maybe tweaked some settings and only after
finishing everything you exported the whole private and public key to
import those files on your PC. You did not generate the main key on
one device (A) and the subkey on another (B) (which would cause issues
if not deleted and reimported on A). Did you check the key on your PC
using "gpg --edit-key " from the command line that if is
complete, has the expected properties and trust?

Olav
- -- 
The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications

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Re: [Enigmail] How does my recipient open my encypted email?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Kerry,

> How does my recipient open my encypted email?
maybe I missed some context but the straight answer is:

Using OpenPGP* you cannot encrypt a message without having received
the receipient's key upfront and using that key to *encrypt to* that
person(s key). It's the "secret key" part of your correspondent which
makes the conversation private.

If you forced Enigmail to encrypt your message without such key, then
typically only you will be able to decrypt it, the receipient can't.

So, again:

To ENCRYPT, you only** need the receipient's "public key".
To SIGN, you only need your "private key".

To DECRYPT, the receipient needs his/her "private key".
To VERIFY your signature, the receipient needs your "public key".

Olav

* I'm aware of symmetric mode, but this is not covered by any mail
client I know of.
** Typically, Enigmail makes sure to encrypt to your (public) key
also, so that you can read your sent messages (using your private key).
- -- 
The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications

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Re: [Enigmail] Recover GPG password remembered by Thunderbird (passphrase in session)

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Thanks for posting a summary/howto!
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Re: [Enigmail] Help with learning how to sign and encrypt emails

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Daniel,

> I would like to learn about how to sign and encrypt emails because 
> of privacy and security concerns. Could someone please assist me?
> I would like to learn sending signed or encrypted mail to fellow
> trustees.
sure, go ahead. Just write a NEW mail to me directly.

>>> I have followed chapter 1 and 2 of the Enigmal Quickstart
>>> Quide.
>> 1. have you installed ENIGMAIL into Thunderbird?
> yes
OK, so software seems to be ready to rumble.

>> 2. have you generated a keypair?
> yes but not a rectification pw because of this did not seemed to 
> work after trying several phrases
I don't understand what you are trying to tell us. What do you mean
with "rectification pw"? Did you have trouble saving your "revocation
certificate" (Step 8 of the QSG)?

>> 3. have you uploaded your public key to the keyserver ?
> yes
OK, just imported it. Looks fine so far. Yet, I cannot test really,
since we did not see any signed message of yours yet. Maybe you test
with me first and then summarize your lessons learned to the list
(then signed).

> Sorry if this email goes to all the users but I have pressed reply 
> to the email below.
Nothing to worry about. This is a mailing list for just that purpose.
This way, anyone that has some time and knows something helpful may
answer you.

I'll write a personal encrypted test message to you now.

Olav
- -- 
The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail keeps asking for the passphrase

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Nothing to apologise for - thanks for your investigation and for
sharing your insights!

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail keeps asking for the passphrase

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Oops,

> use-agent" >> ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf

should rather have been

> echo "use-agent" >> ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf

Olav
- -- 
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Re: [Enigmail] Own signature not valid?!?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Bernhard,

> this is my first mail to this list.

Welcome!

> When I read the mail in the SENT folder I see: Signature could not 
> be verified. How could that be?

You signed both messages with your RSA-4096 subkey 0xEC0C190F (main
key 0xD5257409). But you seem to experiment with ECC keys and that
might still cause issues. So that's why Ludwig asked for your Enigmail
and GnuPG version.

> I have deposited my public key in the keyserver since long and for 
> a long time the signature could well be verified.

Whether your public key is online or not has nothing to do with the
issue you encounter. It's all local: your keyring, your SENT folder,
your software.

> a line wrap issue may have happened: But I can not see in
> thunderbird how to avoid it.

Did you compose Plain-Text or HTML (and converted to plain text)?

> Enigmail 1.8.2 thunderbird 38.3.0 gpg4win of yesterday

Which is which GnuPG version ("gpg --version" from the command line)?
We're on Mac an Linux here ;-)

Olav
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The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Re: [Enigmail] Own signature not valid?!?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Bernhard,

Am 31.10.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
[...]

THIS message was NOT plaintext but HTML! If you use HTML, you MUST use
PGP/MIME. If you want to use INLINE PGP (which is preferrable with
mailing lists) then you MUST NOT use HTML but plain text. To do so
without changing your setup, use SHIFT+Compose or SHIFT+Reply to
commpose a new message or reply to a message. That way, Thunderbird
invokes the PLAINTEXT editor.

Olav
- -- 
The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Re: [Enigmail] Key Management Owner Trust

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Please, folks. I appreciate that discussion very much. Each single
statement. Those of kypto pros, enthusiasts, plain users and noobs.
Because the product will be used by all of them. So: stay polite!
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Re: [Enigmail] Import of secret key fails.

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Bryant,

most probably, your own key is not trusted. Please call Key Manager
from within Enigmail, right-click your key and set Trust to ultimate.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] unencrypted messages appear to be encrypted

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi RLB,

please specify precisely your systemsetup, GnuPG and Enigmail settings and
the steps to reproduce your issue. Then, we might be able to help you.

Olav
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The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Comment: Dies ist eine elektronische Signatur - http://www.enigmail.net/

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Re: [Enigmail] https://www.enigmail.net/download/source.php contains http links

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Daniel,

 I just noticed that https://www.enigmail.net/download/source.php seems to 
 contain cleartext http links for the sourcecode tarballs (e.g. 
 http://www.enigmail.net/download/source/enigmail-1.8.2.tar.gz).

thanks for notifying, fixed by Patrick 2 hours ago (I was too slow ...)

Olav
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The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Re: [Enigmail] since 1.8.1 this eror when trying to safe a draft (was: Re: since 1.9.1 this eror when trying to safe a draft)

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Am 15.04.2015 um 18:28 schrieb John Dose:
 a respective key is on the keyring...
 
 Error while saving encrypted draft:
 
 The email address or key ID 'x...@.xx' cannot be matched to a valid,
 not expired OpenPGP key. Please ensure that you have a valid OpenPGP key,
 and that your account settings point to that key.

1.8.2 solves that. Not released yet. Please install and report back if OK then
Download from https://www.enigmail.net/download/beta/

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail not usable animore

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Jan-Peter,

 default-cache-ttl:24:0:lasse PINs im Cache nach N Sekunden verfallen
 Your default-cache-ttl and max-cache-ttl are set to 24 seconds.
 How do I change this?

https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/basic.php

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail not usable animore

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Jan-Peter,

 https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/basic.php
 nothing changed by changing entry from 1440 to 5 Minutes and retry opening 
 message still get 14 Pineentry Windows.

that may be a bug then, please send your log (of the session where you changed
the passphrase cache time within Engimail) to olav at enigmail dot net:
Enigmail - Debugging - Log - Save Log; optionally clean personal info, send.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail not honoring keyserver preferences in gpg.conf

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Daniel,

 I tried searching the forum, obviously using the wrong terms, sorry

No offense at all, thanks for reporting and for asking on the list!

Olav
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[Enigmail] PGP/MIME in web mail clients ( was: Re: some thoughts about usability)

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Ian,

 I started off using PGP/MIME, it seemed neat. However, some contacts read 
 their mail in web browsers, eg Gmail, and all they saw was the signature
 and could not view content of the message.

It is true that web mail clients often do not handle PGP/MIME (or PGP at all).
But what you describe above is that Google Mail would not display the message
body AT ALL. I just tried to reproduce this but cannot!

Gmail inbox DOES show the CONTENT of the message body for all PGP/MIME messages
(plain text, HTML only, mixed) I sent to myself.

It cannot display the SIGNATURE properly, though! (Your receipient may not
verify the message within the Google mail web interface. But that applies to
ALL non PGP-enabled mail clients.)

 It was a hassle trying to remember which contacts used the web browser to 
 read email in.

You could have used per-receipient rules for that...

 Switching to in-line solved the issue for me. Now the see the signature
 and email content.

Sure. That's the beauty of INLINE. It ALWAYS works (with plain text). But looks
ugly ;-)

 It is nice we have the choice to select from.

Sure. And this will stay in Enigmail. You may set your personal preference,
let Enigmail automatically change this personal per-identity setting using
per-receipient rules and you may switch while composing messages. But the
program default will be PGP/MIME in our next release.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Toolbar

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Mike,

I think that INLINE/MIME, signed/unsigned and blank subject should not depend
on each other. That is, having one set or not should not yield other results for
another. Users would not expect this (and rather manually set it).

 We would not want to present Aunt Sally with the empty subject line.

It might be worth considering to make this warning optional and switch it off
by default indeed.

 If using PGP it makes sense to set PGP/MIME.

If a message is neither signed nor encrypted by Enigmail, PGP/MIME ist not used
even if it's set or default. Usual MIME is used then for HTML mails, and plain
for plain text mails.

Olav
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Version: GnuPG v2
Comment: Dies ist eine elektronische Signatur - http://www.enigmail.net/

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Toolbar

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Mike,

 there should be 3 selections: Encryption, Signing, and PGP/MIME

I disagree. Aunt Sally will ONLY care about encrypt or not. More learned folks
may want to change their default signing setting for specific messages. But only
nerds care to switch INLINE/MIME. I'm not trying to offend you, just making one
point clear: Enigmail must be as usable for anyone. And MOST people will be
confused by a INLINE/MIME selection.

For the expert/nerd: the Label Enigmail: in that button bar is clickable and
you may set INLINE/MIME there. I do agree that this is not good UI design since
users are not to expect Labels to be clickable. It's what it is for now. We may
come up with a better solution. If Patrick does a INLINE/MIME button, then I
urge to hide it per default. Experts may then drag it into their perferred pos.

Apart from the UI: The next Enigmail version we set PGP/MIME as default.

Olav
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Version: GnuPG v2
Comment: Dies ist eine elektronische Signatur - http://www.enigmail.net/

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Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Robert,

the point was: is it possible to further use a key that has/had MD5 and now
throws a warning by modifying it. If not, then the only way seems to be to
delete the key - if one doesn't want to /allow-weak-digest-algos/ .

Olav
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Version: GnuPG v2
Comment: Dies ist eine elektronische Signatur - http://www.enigmail.net/

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Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi David,

 Googling this suggests it may be a conflict between gnome-agent and the 
 gpa-agent.  I am running Ubuntu 14.10.

sorry, but this IS off-topic (for this list) now ;-)

But there is some hint on https://www.enigmail.net/support/gnupg2_issues.php
on how to disable gnome-keyring - don't know if that's your issue, I'm on W8 ...

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27

[Olav Seyfarth]

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 installed GnupG 2.0.27, via Gpg4Win 2.2.4
 reason is, that GnuPG 2.0.27 errors out if it detects keys using MD5. 
 Workaround: use allow-weak-digest-algos in Enigmail or gpg.conf
 Is there a method to search for such keys?

I definitely *don't know whether this is correct*, but what I did is
   gpg --list-key 0x
This, in my case, *seemes* to list all affected keys. Don't ask me why.
I stumbled upon it while I got displayed keys with FPR all zero...

I exported these keys to be able to roll back ...
   gpg --export 0x  md5_keys.gpg

... and deleted them manually by executing this as long as it still found some:
   gpg --delete-keys 0x

After that cleanup, I had no more errors even without allow-weak-digest-algos .

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] New GnuPG 2.0.27

[Olav Seyfarth]

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I confirm issues with Enigmail 1.8 in combination with GPG4win 2.2.4 (full).

I see gpg: Oops: keyid_from_fingerprint: no pubkey twice and an error about
key  being more than once in trustdb along with a hint that MD5 sigs
are rejected when opening key manager. After that, key manager is empty, no
matter whether show all keys is on or off.

gpg --clearsign from CMD worked fine, with pinentry.

I need to investigate them more deeply but have no time at the moment.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Kickstarting smart cards

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Anne,

 I've had an FSFE smartcard for around 3 years, without a clue about how to
 use it.

I use it every day, in fact this messages is signed by it. Did you try to find
out how to use it? There is some documentation, both on FSFE and on GnuPG side:

http://fsfe.org/fellowship/card.en.html
https://www.gnupg.org/howtos/card-howto/en/smartcard-howto-single.html

If you need assistance, feel free to contact me off-list. It will be easier to
phone actually since there are considerations that should be discussed first.
Ideally, you would provide a writeup afterwards that we could use on our site.


Apart from that, I asked Joey what the difference between his card and Werner's
OpenPGP Smartcard (which is the FSFE card). He replied (but did not add the
answer to the FAQ on kickstarter):

  It differs in a couple of ways. The g10 card is a contact-only interface; this
  card is dual interface, which means it could potentially work with NFC devices
  like Android tablets and smart phones. The g10 card is also not open source.
  This card is open source, written for the JavaCard platform, and the code is
  openly available here: https://github.com/josecastillo/OpenPGP-Card

  Having said that, the g10 card does offer one feature that this card does not.
  The g10 card supports adjustable key sizes; this card only supports 2048-bit
  keys. I wrote about the rationale behind this in the project FAQ, but it is
  important to mention because if you have a key larger than 2048 bits, this
  won't work for you.

  Having said that, the g10 card has been out of stock at kernelconcepts since
  last June, and if you click the link on the page you sent, their store is
  currently down. I'm not aware of any other sources for the g10 card at this
  time.

I checked KernelConcepts: their site yields
  The shop will is temporarily closed. If you have an urgend need of OpenPGP
  cards or Gemalto Shell token card reader, feel free to contact us.
So, basically, write them an E-Mail and you'll get it anyway.

Concerning The g10 card is also not open source., I cannot comment on. But the
spec is available at http://g10code.com/p-card.html

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail v1.8 Beta 1

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Philip,

 from the strange little icon (3 small horizontal bars) on the right hand
 end of Thunderbird's Mail Toolbar.

which is, on Windows at least, THE thunderbird MENU button, after all.

 It is this latter which gives most often defective options. If there is no
 PhotoID with the key concerned, the PhotoID option is not greyed out,
 clicking it does however provide the message that no such id is available.

Nice one, I can confirm that they are not grayed out! Screenshot [1] shows the
different menus on the SAME message (the one I reply to now, which is signed but
I don't have the sender's key in my local keyring).

While non-available options are grayed out in the regular menu and the Details
menu, they are not grayed out if the menu is accessed via the TB Menu Button.
This applies to all four menu entries, not just the Photo ID.

However, clicking on the (shoub-be-grayed-out) Photo ID menu entry in my case
did NOT yield a message but nothing-happened-at-all. Klicking on Show Photo-ID
in that same menu on a message that has a local key and a Photo ID does show it.

 If the message has not been signed at all, the Details button of course is
 not present and the other two ways still provide a range of options.

I my case, it shows the same menu entries as for a signed the key of which is
not present in keyring.

Import key is ALWAYS available in ALL menus, which doesn't make sense.

 The menu bar Enigmail/Senders key/ provides four options not greyed out
 (only the photoID is greyed out).

Hmmm in my installation, all four were grayed out.

 Whether any response is received from clicking on any of these items
 depends on whether the message is 'stand-alone' or a reply within a
 thread.

 If within a thread, clicking on 'View key properties' can produce the
 details of a key from another thread message higher up in the chain.

I can confirm that, but it has nothing to do with threads. The action (such as
TB-BUTTON/Enigmail/sender's key/show properties) is not performed on the key
of the message higher up the thread but on the key that was processed last!
See Screenshot [2] (messages on this list).

Maybe this is related to
 https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/284/
  (which indicates that this should no longer happen in 1.8b1!)
 https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/258/
  (which indicates that this should no longer happen since 1.7)
 https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/224/
  (marked as invalid due to lack of reporter's response but matches pattern)
 https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/421/
  (Enigmail 1.7.2, asked reporter to reproduce with 1.8b1)
 https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/377/
  (could be related if related to asynchronous operations)

Olav

Screenshots (will only be available in March, 2015):
[1] http://seyfarth.de/enigmail-users/150302_menus.png
[2] http://seyfarth.de/enigmail-users/150302_thread.png

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail not recognizing rules

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Shahzad,

 Am runningEnigmail version 1.7.2 (20140829-0917) on Thunderbird 31.4.0. For
 some reasons, my client is unable to implement the rules for encrypting 
 messages, which is extremely frustrating. Is this a common problem?

no, this is not a common problem. Your description is too general, I cannot
help you without a description what you set/did, expect and what happened.

To make sure it's not an (already fixed) 1.7.2 issue, please install the nightly
over your existing Enigmail: http://www.enigmail.net/download/nightly.php and
retry. Take notes on the steps you perform so that you can write a descriptive
support request next time (if you get the same issue with 1.8a).

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] PhotoID not shown on windows

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi Patrick,

I use tonight's nightly and gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.26 (Gpg4win 2.2.3) on Windows 8.1
Pro 64bit. I see no photo on HIS key (screenshot), with MY key show photo works
fine!

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] draft copies encrypted?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Mike,

sorry for my delay, forgot this in drafts after a TB restart ...

 is it normal now for Thunderbird/Enigmail to encrypt saved/draft copies ?

My wife asked me the same thing after upgrading to 1.7.2. This might be a
migration issue. Do you know for sure that drafts were not encrypted before
the upgrade and now are? Is it set so in your account's OpenPGP prefs now?
(You may disable it there any time.)

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP headers and lack of visibility in incoming mails.

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Philip,

 Is there any way of having enigmail/Thunderbird highlight an OpenPGP header
 in an incoming mail ?  I suppose a useful way would be to add its content
 to the 'Details/enigmail security info'.

I second that this header would be more useful if it were not only sent but one
was (1) aware of it and (2) can take actions if present.

As to (1) I'm not sure whether the security info is sufficient since the user
should - if he opted to use this feature, so off by default - be notified, e.g.
if signature cannot be verified due to missing key AND auto-download keys set
AND key not on Server AND OpenPGP URL is available.

Would you please think about all cases and in which cases the user should be
supported and how - and open an RFE bug for that?

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v1.7.2 Available

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi,

 Is there a devel mailing list ?

please write to me and I'll forward your message. Hope that's OK for now.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] [UX] [UI] Attach Public Key entry in composition window

[Olav Seyfarth]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Michael,

 Whenever I first introduce users to Enigmail, we run into a UI issue.

brilliant to know there are users out there doing that. I do so myself.

 It comes up when showing a user how to attach their public key to an email
 they are composing. The functionality for Attach Public Key... is neither
 in the Attach or Enigmail entires of the composition toolbar. It is
 instead only in the Enigmail menu bar.
 
 If the point of the entries in the composition toolbar are to filter 
 composition-relevant options from the larger menu bar functionality, I 
 think this counts as such a option. Currently I have to always clarify that
 it is the menu bar Enigmail entry and not the composition bar Enigmail
 entry that has the option available.
 
 My recommendation would be to add an entry for Attach Public Key in 
 Enigmail entry of the composition toolbar. Having it in the Attach entry of
 the composition toolbar may also work. But I believe it needs to be 
 somewhere in the composition toolbar and not just in the menu bar.

I like you suggestion but as you may have noticed, we introduced some
significant changes and are rather busy getting serious things fixed and a new
version out. In the meantime, many enhancement suggestions arose even within
the team. I fear that your suggestion could get lost if not entered as an
Enhancement bug. Please open a bug for it and describe in detail what you
propose and how you would do it, with line drawings, scanned sketches or
mockup images if you can. Unless programmers volunteer to help, it will take a
while though. Sorry I must let you down for now.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Problem in Manjaro

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Martin,

 Enigmail gives message that the key might be expired, and doesn't allow me
 to sign the message. I'm sure the key is not expired. The message is: The
 key was not found or is invalid. The (sub-)key could have been expired.

for the key in question, what validity does gpg --list-key KEYID yield?
UIDs should be [ uneing.] (german).

 I guess that it has to do with the switch of Distros

I doubt that.

If that all doesn't help, please
1) upgrade to Enigmail nightly
   if installed through package manager, I recon you should close TB, uninstall
   Enigmail package, install XPI from enigmail.net through TB AddOn Manager and
   restart TB, then redo your test

If that all doesn't help, please
2) create debug directory, enable debugging (needs expert settings), restart TB,
   redo your test, close TB, ZIP debug dir and send cleaned files along with
   screenshots, exported public keys, prefs.js and pgprules.xml to me.

Olav
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The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications
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Re: [Enigmail] Compatibility issue with Whiteout Mail

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Felix,

this is a known bug in 1.7, your issue should be fixed if you use the current
nightly. There will be a 1.7.1 shortly.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] CVE-2014-5369 - Enigmail 1.7.1 ?

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Remi,

 Report says fixed in 1.7.1, but not released. Any planed date?

working on it, no date fixed yet.

 else pick fix from SCM... which I will prefer to avoid

For the meantime, you may uninstall your distro package, download the XPI from
the enigmail website and install it through TBs AddOn Manager.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] CVE-2014-5369 - Enigmail 1.7.1 ?

[Olav Seyfarth]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Remi,

 I'm the distro enigmail maintainer, so ...

Sorry, did not realise that. My answer was intended to help those suffering from
problems with 1.7 to gap the time till 1.7.1 is released.

Before 1.6 it was problematic to install other than the distro package
(binary/compiler dependencies). With 1.7 this is no longer the case. Strictly
speaking, the package is no longer necessary to be provided. But a good comfort
though since it is only one source for updates.

 And I don't understand how this could help... still 1.7.

Sorry, I missed to write the word *nightly*:

 you may uninstall your distro package, download the *nightly* XPI from
 the enigmail website and install it through TBs AddOn Manager.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Android e-mail client for PKE

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi *,

 I find Maildroid ads pretty harmless...

I don't like ads, not on PC but even less on a tiny phone screen. Apart from
privacy/security issues.

 I agree that the price for the paid version is too high though.

Compared to other apps, yes. For a good piece of software, no. Mind: includes
support. If you want/need to make a living out of it, you need to count that
time. I wrote them my feedback yesterday and got it answered this morning. Wow.
Compared to R2Mail2, MailDroid's IMAP handling is WAY faster. Nice clean UI.
Is has minor drawbacks though. But still worth the money IMHO.

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail and QuoteCollapse

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Florian,

 since I run the new Enigmail 1.7, I run into troubles with the
 QuoteCollapse plugin. When a message is not parsed by Enigmail
 (unsigned/unencrypted), QuoteCollapse works quite well. When it is parsed
 by Enigmail, the plugin stops working. I am not sure if this is related to
 Thunderbird 31 or the new Enigmail, so I wanted to reach out and see if
 others have similar problems.

I don't use QuoteCollaps (any more) but if it works fine in TB31 with unsigned
messages, then it is not a TB31 issue. Please contact QC maintainer and ask
whether he/you should open a bug and where. He may also contact the devs
directly.

Olav
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[Enigmail] Enigmail team needs YOUR help/time

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Dear Enigmail users,

as you may know, the Snowden effect has raised some awareness among users.
There are more feature requests than before now, but we also were roused to
fix some longstanding issues and implement new ideas which yields new bugs
that need to be fixed. This needs time.

For the most of us, time is the most precious thing we can donate. I ask you
no less that to do just that: join our team. Devote some of your time to make
Enigmail better, to support it's users, to take some workload off our devs.

You don't need to be a crypto expert nor a programmer. If you are - perfect.
But if not, fine aswell. We need any number of JS devs but also up to three
persons that help novice users, make sure issues are entered as bug along with
all necessary information and to improve documentation and our website.

Today, we're only white men :( So, be the first woman or person of color in
our team! You should have a basic knowledge of computer security, communicate
friendly in english, be not offended by user comments and have fun with us:
https://www.enigmail.net/home/members.php

If that applies to you, please let me know (personal message, not to list,
signed and encrypted of course ;-) ).

Olav
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Re: [Enigmail] please unsubscribe me

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Hi Russell,

to unsubscribe, please search for unsubscribe here:
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This link is attached to every message processed through this list.

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Re: [Enigmail] Request: different position for signature message

[Olav Seyfarth]

  
  

  Hi Martin, Hi Patrick,

Patrick wrote:We use the same place that Thunderbird ueses to display information about the message, such as
"Thunderbird thinks this message is junk"/scam/...

  

Martin wrote:

  
  The messages initiated by Thunderbird come below the header section and above the content section

  

  
  

So yes, we once put it where TB put its messages, but obviously,
  this has changed, at least for windows.
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Re: [Enigmail] encrypting drafts without a keyID

[Olav Seyfarth]

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Hi Daniel,

 engimail preference to save drafts encryptedly only works if a keyID is
 set Is this still the case?

No, just tried with current nightly. Draft is saved encryptedly even if I set
prefs to choose from email address.

Olav
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