Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
You may be very right from an engineering point of view, but from an usability point of view you're quite wrong as the end result is quite dark and hard to read: http://files.1407.org/shot-dark-clock-on-dark-bg.png Rui On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:55:29 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: You may be very right from an engineering point of view, but from an usability point of view you're quite wrong as the end result is quite dark and hard to read:

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread P Purkayastha
On 11/19/2012 04:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: You may be very right from an engineering point of view, but from an usability point of view you're quite wrong as the end result is quite dark and

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:35:01 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com said: On 11/19/2012 04:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: You may be very right from an engineering point of view, but from an

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread Rui Seabra
Riiight. Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: You may be very right from an engineering point of view, but from an usability point of view you're quite wrong as the end result is quite dark and hard to

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:55:08 + Rui Seabra r...@1407.org said: indeed. right. :) seriously - it's zero trouble reading it for me - it's not even barely an effort. Riiight. Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:03:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: The colours work for me, though it's still too big. While we are at it, MM/DD/ isn't correct for my locale. Being a fellow aussie I'm sure I don't have to tell you what is correct. Nothing

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:12:12 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:03:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: The colours work for me, though it's still too big. While we are at it, MM/DD/ isn't correct for my locale. Being a

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:21:00 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:12:12 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:03:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: The colours work for

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread thomasg
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:35:01 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com said: On 11/19/2012 04:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:42:32 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread Rui Seabra
Everyone I show it to agrees with me that there is not enough contrast. Just look at the text to the left of the clock. Much more readable even though it's smaller. Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:55:08 + Rui Seabra r...@1407.org said: indeed. right. :)

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
All eyes in the world (including mine) are broken. We need to fix our eyes :-D (that's what Raster would say, he is the only one that seems to think it is easily readable) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Rui Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Everyone I show it to agrees with me that there is

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, thomasg tho...@gstaedtner.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:35:01 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com said: On 11/19/2012 04:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:42:44 +0100 thomasg tho...@gstaedtner.net said: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:35:01 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com said: On 11/19/2012 04:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
As of today, some 10 hours ago old tree, the clock is almost unreadable, being dark blue on dark grey is not good... Rui On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:24:19 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-18 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
It's a bug in you, fix your eyes -- Rasterman :-D On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: As of today, some 10 hours ago old tree, the clock is almost unreadable, being dark blue on dark grey is not good... Rui On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:24:19 +0900

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:40:34 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: As of today, some 10 hours ago old tree, the clock is almost unreadable, being dark blue on dark grey is not good... the day that it dark blue, is the day the sun is deep purple. this isn;t a subjective thing - it's

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-18 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:40:34 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: As of today, some 10 hours ago old tree, the clock is almost unreadable, being dark blue on dark grey is not good... the day that it

[E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
Greetings, Many people came crying in #e about the new dark digital clock and those unreasonal scribbles in the numbers back. It looks cool and artistic but it is hard to read :( making it unusable as a module (at least in its digital form). After a brief discussion about it cipher (Haris

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
followup mail, the attachment must have gotten trimmed or something ... O.o http://drakevr.gr/digitalclock.tgz -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: massively worse than whats there. in the same way its also blurry and unreadable too (using that term the same way). in addition, a serif font where everything else is sans-serif in the theme? that's like walking around

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: massively worse than whats there. in the same way its also blurry and unreadable too (using that term the same way). in addition, a serif

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Rafael Antognolli
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: massively worse than whats there. in the same way its also blurry and unreadable too (using that term the same way). in addition, a

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
I like the look of the clock, but, in fairness, the background numbers could be a little less obtrusive / more transparent. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rafael Antognolli antogno...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On 14/11/12 13:35, Alex-P. Natsios wrote: Tube clocks are awesome and i love the fact that it mimics it so good as certainly many others do but between sheer beauty and ease of use/productivity i do bet people tend to like making a compromise in favor of the productivity side. As

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Iván Briano
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote: I like the look of the clock, but, in fairness, the background numbers could be a little less obtrusive / more transparent. And randomly glitching, for a better effect.

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
That would be awesome on a number of different levels. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Iván Briano sachi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote: I like the look of the clock, but, in fairness, the background numbers

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:37:51 -0200 Rafael Antognolli antogno...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: massively worse than whats there. in the same way

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:41:39 + Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com said: I like the look of the clock, but, in fairness, the background numbers could be a little less obtrusive / more transparent. i tried many various levels of transparency for the darkened (inactive)

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:35:16 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: massively worse than whats there. in the same way its

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
i fail to see what's not readable about it, unless your eyesight is totally shot, in which case there is not a lot that can be done other than making everything pure white and black and nothig in between as you can't see anyway... and make everything huge and fill the screen ... :) Yes it is,

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.comwrote: i fail to see what's not readable about it, unless your eyesight is totally shot, in which case there is not a lot that can be done other than making everything pure white and black and nothig in between as you can't

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
The tube displays were unreadable in real life as it is, and at least there you have light diffusion to outline the glowing number a bit (we had a few Russian measurement devices in the university with such a display). That's not the case with edj. And while not unreadable, the inactive wires are

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:16:50 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.comwrote: i fail to see what's not readable about it, unless your eyesight is totally shot, in which case there is not a lot that can

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:09:13 +0200 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com said: The tube displays were unreadable in real life as it is, and at least there you have light diffusion to outline the glowing number a bit (we had a few Russian measurement devices in the university with such a

Re: [E-devel] Dark theme digital clock woes

2012-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:54:31 +0200 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com said: i fail to see what's not readable about it, unless your eyesight is totally shot, in which case there is not a lot that can be done other than making everything pure white and black and nothig in between as you can't