Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-25 Thread Simon TRENY
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:07:27 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0200 Simon TRENY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > > > On

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0200 Simon TRENY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > simple answer: > > >

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-24 Thread Simon TRENY
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > simple answer: > > 1. use gadcon > 2. add a "generic layout" layout smart to gadcon so it can use that > instea

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: simple answer: 1. use gadcon 2. add a "generic layout" layout smart to gadcon so it can use that instead of the linear one it uses for the shelf 3. make the desktop advertise a gadcon layout. done. existing modules a

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I missed this one by Brian.. > Write an app that sets > ecore_evas_alpha_set(ee, 1); > ecore_evas_borderless_set(ee, 1); > and run a compositor? > > Then, if desired set them to stack 'always below', and either > alt-drag them around or use esmart_draggies? That might be on

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Of course it has some drawbacks, the biggest I can see is that > modules are dependent to e17 but... who cares, we use e17 :) And you use the modules -- with e17. Someone(s) has to maintain them all, throughout the lifetime of e17.. to be in sinc with it, and error free, and not slow do

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Simon TRENY
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:04:24 -0500, Brian Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:51:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Simon wrote: > > I think it would be good to have freely placed modules in > > e17... but I just wonder if this should be the main met

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:46:16 GMT schrieb "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hannes wrote: > > ... > > ... > > > > In short: there are a bunch of other modules that need to control > > how and where they appear on the desk; modules which might have > > multiple instance configurat

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Brian Mattern
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:51:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Simon wrote: > I think it would be good to have freely placed modules in > e17... but I just wonder if this should be the main method for having > large numbers of interesting "desklets" kinds of things in e. > Wr

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon wrote: > I think it would be great if we could place freely modules on the > background, as it was possible with the old gadman thing. It would > allow to have desklets like the ones in adesklets (ie. a cpu monitor > with an histogram for example). Shelf are great for small modules,

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Simon TRENY
Hi, I quite agree with you, I think that for now, modules are rather limited. Either a module is contained by a shelf by providing a gadcon client, or it has to do everything by itself (for example, if we want to put a module on the background, we have to handle its placement, the creation/deletio

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wrote: > Out of curiosity I looked up "desklet" and found references > to 'gdesklets' and 'SuperKaramba', which it seems are very popular > projects for gnome and kde respectively. > But there also came up something called 'adesklets', which > is a similar independent proje

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hannes wrote: > ... > ... > > In short: there are a bunch of other modules that need to control > how and where they appear on the desk; modules which might have > multiple instance configurations to store. > I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff > falls in this

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Am Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:42:22 -0400 schrieb Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday, 18 April 2007, at 21:29:05 (+0200), > Hannes Janetzek wrote: > > > I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff > > falls in this category for example. > > Devian and calendar are

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-18 Thread Michael Jennings
On Wednesday, 18 April 2007, at 21:29:05 (+0200), Hannes Janetzek wrote: > I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff > falls in this category for example. Devian and calendar are both dead. The module form of engage is also outdated. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. K

[E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-18 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Hi, I started to make a new taskbar-module based on engage. For now it uses gadcon, but this has several disadvantages. The problem is that the shelf is intended to hold more than one gadcon-client and therefore the clients should be changed on changes to the shelf. In my case the module should con