Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:21:55 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed solution. > > I proposed this now 7 days ago, no one was opposed you even wrote

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:48:05 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 05/15/2018 07:21 PM, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > > calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:49:46 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:21:55 +0200 > Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > > calendar item and removed the wiki

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Hello. On 05/15/2018 07:21 PM, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed solution. > > I proposed this now 7 days ago, no one was opposed you even wrote > "I'm in on this.

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

I uncancelled the event. Have this meeting since it was already scheduled, discussion and fine-tuning of schedule can continue independently. If a change is decided on, the schedule can be altered later. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:50 PM William L. Thomson Jr. < wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> wrote:

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:21:55 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed > solution. > > I proposed this now 7 days ago, no one was opposed you even

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed solution. I proposed this now 7 days ago, no one was opposed you even wrote "I'm in on this. Already added it to my own personal calendar with notifications

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

We tried that last time, and you where the only one from the KR Timezone while there are many committers from that part of the world, thats why i say, try it this week with the other time, and see if it changes :) Also i dont see a problem with doing 2 meetings close to each other, where one

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 15/05/18 15:05, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:38:38 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: > >> I dont have strong feelings if its either shifted by 12h or by something >> else. Just reminding you, UTC + 20 means that there will likely be noone

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:38:38 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: > I dont have strong feelings if its either shifted by 12h or by something > else. Just reminding you, UTC + 20 means that there will likely be noone > else part of the meeting beside US people. I dont want to propose

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

To be clear, my original point regarding a 12 hour difference between the meetings assumes that the selected times are viable for everyone and that it engages the maximum number of contributors: it's easier to remember a meeting time if it's always at the same numerical hour. In the case where a

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

I dont have strong feelings if its either shifted by 12h or by something else. Just reminding you, UTC + 20 means that there will likely be noone else part of the meeting beside US people. I dont want to propose that some timezone needs to be active in both meethings, but it could definitly

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

As Mike suggested and I've been saying... the meetings need to be exactly 12 hours apart, not 8 hours. So if Tuesday was UTC+8, Thursday would be UTC+20... then the next Tuesday UTC+20 and the next Thursday UTC+8, etc... On Mon, May 14, 2018, 9:42 AM Marcel Hollerbach wrote: >

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Okay, then lets say that we meet at the first full week and every third full week, always on Tuesday and Thursday. On the first week Tuesday is at UTC + 8 and Thursday at UTC + 16. In the third week Tuesday is at UTC + 16 and Thursday at UTC + 8. (This month however is a exception and we start

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

This is actually similar to how many projects organize their meetings. Having two separate meetings at "opposite" times allows everyone to have a choice of meetings to attend with at least one of the times being optimal for any given location. Using proper recording methods, everyone is then able

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Perhaps we should -- otherwise I see people voting and making decisions in one group that the other group would not agree to at all, as well as the fact that the North American group is pretty heavily E devs and the European/Asian group is pretty heavily interfaces/EFL ... without crossover there

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Thu, 10 May 2018 19:07:56 + Stephen Houston said: > I'm well aware the other time slot allows for North Americans but it will > then cut out anyone else. That's the point I was making - there is going > to be little crossover. between the two groups of people

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

I'm well aware the other time slot allows for North Americans but it will then cut out anyone else. That's the point I was making - there is going to be little crossover. between the two groups of people meeting - and I don't think that is a good thing. On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM Carsten

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:55:07 + Stephen Houston said: > This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings? 4-6AM EST, > 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT? That pretty much means that no North > Americans are going to be present at all... at least with

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

From the original email: "(Times can be discussed, they are copied from https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Contact#Weekly_Meetings thx Christophe Sadoine)" So yes *for now* its the best i had as an example, feel free to propose something else :) Greetings, bu5hm4n On

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings? 4-6AM EST, 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT? That pretty much means that no North Americans are going to be present at all... at least with the time we were using for the meetings previously, it is reasonable enough for North

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 05/10/2018 09:22 AM, Simon Lees wrote: On 10/05/18 13:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively obscure

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Come on, relax :) On 05/10/2018 05:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 10/05/18 13:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 + Mike Blumenkrantz > said: > >> While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively >> obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to anyone >>

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively > obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to anyone > who has not been avidly following the mailing list

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 + Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively > obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to > anyone who has not been avidly following the mailing list

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to anyone who has not been avidly following the mailing list archives--ie. will never be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the same as

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Wed, 09 May 2018 13:58:52 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the minutes > will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes we already did that fr the past 2 irc meetings 2 weeks

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the minutes will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:26 PM Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > On 05/08/2018 06:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > I think it's

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Lets try it. here is the group you can join for getting a invite: https://phab.enlightenment.org/project/view/204/ Here is the event with the linked wiki page: https://phab.enlightenment.org/E15 Greetings, bu5hm4n On 05/09/2018 03:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 8

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 8 May 2018 13:54:09 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: I'm in on this. Already added it to my own personal calendar with notifications etc. :) > Updated version: > > i) We do two meetings a month: > 1) 1st Tuesday of each month at 8h UTC > 2) 3rd Thursday of each

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 8 May 2018 19:26:16 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > On 05/08/2018 06:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > I think it's important to create a page which tracks meeting > > "minutes" for each meeting so that at any time people can review > > the contents of meetings they

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:31:22 +0930 Simon Lees wrote: > On 08/05/18 21:24, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > Updated version: > > > >> Rather then having to be subscribed to something (or as well as) it > >> would be nice if something sent a meeting reminder email to this > >> list

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 05/08/2018 06:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: I think it's important to create a page which tracks meeting "minutes" for each meeting so that at any time people can review the contents of meetings they were unable to attend or, for newer community members, see what the community has been

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

True, maybe things are getting better if we pick such things up each meeting. However, this thread is about the structure, can you bump the other two ? :) On 05/08/2018 05:31 PM, Stephen Houston wrote: Yes - We have already forgotten about so much of this. The review thread needs to be

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

I think it's important to create a page which tracks meeting "minutes" for each meeting so that at any time people can review the contents of meetings they were unable to attend or, for newer community members, see what the community has been doing recently. Probably the easiest way to do this

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Yes - We have already forgotten about so much of this. The review thread needs to be bumped and discussed more and the release thread needs to be bumped and discussed more as well. Everything has already gone back silent. On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:02 AM Simon Lees wrote: > > >

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 08/05/18 21:24, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > Updated version: > >> Rather then having to be subscribed to something (or as well as) it >> would be nice if something sent a meeting reminder email to this list >> 24hrs before each meeting as well. >> > > We can do that the first few weeks, but

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Updated version: i) We do two meetings a month: 1) 1st Tuesday of each month at 8h UTC 2) 3rd Thursday of each month at 16h UTC (Times can be discussed, they are copied from https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Contact#Weekly_Meetings thx Christophe Sadoine) ii) We create

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

On 08/05/18 20:16, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > Hello, > > It has been now over 10 days of the last meeting, we concluded that we > should do them every second week and somehow already almost forgot about > it. > > So here is another proposal that makes things more scheduled: > > i) We do two

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

Hello, It has been now over 10 days of the last meeting, we concluded that we should do them every second week and somehow already almost forgot about it. So here is another proposal that makes things more scheduled: i) We do two meetings a month: 1) 1st of each month at 8h UTC 2) 17st