Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:54:20 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both Carsten and Gustavo
suggested, and let me start with:
I wrote:
Carsten wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:42:47 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Gustavo wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:42:47 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Gustavo wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:54:20 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both Carsten and Gustavo
suggested, and let me start with:
I just don't see a realistic need for
Gustavo wrote:
One other aspect that needs to be addressed has to do with the
very notion Gustavo mentioned about negotiating buffer sizes that
a filter/transform might need for putting results to.. and in fact
this also covers things like calculating update rects when dealing
Getting back to the evas filters/transforms stuff...
One other aspect that needs to be addressed has to do with the
very notion Gustavo mentioned about negotiating buffer sizes that
a filter/transform might need for putting results to.. and in fact
this also covers things like
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Getting back to the evas filters/transforms stuff...
One other aspect that needs to be addressed has to do with the
very notion Gustavo mentioned about negotiating buffer sizes that
a filter/transform might
I wrote:
I wish someone would point out an interesting, and/or common,
real-time gui use of something besides: one specialty filter (say a
blur or a bumpmap) followed by a geometric transform (and possibly
all clipped by a mask).
in order to do cover flow-like we
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both Carsten and Gustavo
suggested, and let me start with:
I just don't see a realistic need for having a
Let me give some further thoughts on your proposed api:
it should be LIKE the clipping api
filt = evas_object_filter_add();
evas_object_resize(filt, 200, 200);
evas_object_filter_effect_set(filt, EVAS_FILTER_CHILDREN_ONLY);
evas_object_filter_type_set(filt, blur/gaussian);
Gustavo wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both Carsten and Gustavo
suggested, and let me start with:
I just don't see a
I wish someone would point out an interesting, and/or common,
real-time gui use of something besides: one specialty filter (say a
blur or a bumpmap) followed by a geometric transform (and possibly
all clipped by a mask).
in order to do cover flow-like we need:
1 -
Ok, let me give you some 'criticisms' I have of parts of the
approaches to this filters stuff that both Carsten and Gustavo
suggested, and let me start with:
I just don't see a realistic need for having a built-in
mechanism of arbitrary lists of arbitrary filters to be applied
to
I wrote:
This wouldn't really have any impact with the use of 'native
surfaces' - well, depends on how wide the interpretation of such.
All the engines - with the singular exeption of the gl one - use
native surfaces to do the rendering to, in one way or another.
That may
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:45:49 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Carsten wrote:
Anyway... Since you're still thinking about all this, and
since this has already been discussed at bossa, I'll drop the issue.
there is always room for input and discussion. until
Carsten wrote:
I also know that adding any of this to evas is going to
mean a fairly large re-working of the image internals (among
other things), and that although a general 'filters' mechanism
is a very powerful thing, there are many, many aspects here
that need to be considered
Gustavo wrote:
Ah, I'd like to write a small prototype of this idea. It would get an
ARGB buffer, get the filters as a linked list/array negotiate buffers
and then process, giving the output as another ARGB buffer to check
the results. Then modify this to add hardware accelerated
We've mentioned the semantic interpretation of these 'surface'
filters acting on an object as _functionally_ equivalent to first
rendering the object to a buffer 'surface' and having the filter
act on that surface... Ok, how about we make this former action
available thru the evas api -
As usual, not much time but here it goes:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
Ah, I'd like to write a small prototype of this idea. It would get an
ARGB buffer, get the filters as a linked list/array negotiate buffers
and
Gustavo wrote:
PS.
This is fairly easy to do right now in evas, except with the
gl engine, since one'd need to draw to gl textures and there's no
code in evas right now to do that. So, your work on the gl filters
stuff could actually be very useful for that (among other things).
Gustavo wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jose,
I'm running out of time to reply to all of these ideas, I expect to
get back some development time after the company I started start to
calm down on the real world side (we
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jose,
I'm running out of time to reply to all of these ideas, I expect to
get back some
So, what kind of api should be provided for 'filters for evas
objects'? And how can general/loadable such filters be defined and
obtained?
Gustavo has given one possible suggestion (still needs the
issue of general/loadable ones addressed, and may want to replace
the 'set' with
PS.
Here's a distantly related issue though: One of the most common
things that people want to do with images is to rotate them (possibly
in a 3D perspective way), flip them, blur them, etc. How can one make
it easy to express such things for evas image objs (with filters) via
the
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS.
Here's a distantly related issue though: One of the most common
things that people want to do with images is to rotate them (possibly
in a 3D perspective way), flip them, blur them, etc. How can one
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:04:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS.
Here's a distantly related issue though: One of the most common
things that people want to do with images is to
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jose,
I'm running out of time to reply to all of these ideas, I expect to
get back some development time after the company I started start to
calm down on the real world side (we were getting
This is the kind of thing that makes 'chaining' of arbitrary
filters a problem unless very strict semantic rules are followed,
and an api used which is able to naturally represent those rules.
I'll continue this a bit later, but please do jump in
with comments or whatnot if
Gustavo wrote:
PS.
Some here would like to have ultimately flexible 'filters'
defined via some cpugpu supported shading language (a kind of
gfx scripting mechanism), but I seriously doubt that anyone here
is going to spend the time and effort required to design and
implement
Carsten wrote:
Anyway... Since you're still thinking about all this, and
since this has already been discussed at bossa, I'll drop the issue.
there is always room for input and discussion. until someone actually knuckles
down and starts doing this, discussion is good as it
Sorry for not much time to reply to this in depth, probably raster
will do it, by my point goes for the last statement:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS.
Some here would like to have ultimately flexible 'filters'
defined via some cpugpu
Carsten wrote:
don't be too excited... it will take time to have someone to do that.
What! I thought you were working on this full-steam ahead..
Carsten said that's what you were doing! You're going to have
to speak with him about it.. slap him around a bit and throw
some
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:17:57 -0400 Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
i did? where? :) i am thinking about this still - though right now i think
Nowhere, it was an exaggeration to get Gustavo and you
going on this. :)
h! drat. so i'm still perfectly sane. DAMN IT! i
Gustavo wrote:
PS.
I'd just set a 4x4 proj transf (you can get some funky curved
stuff that way) and have utility functions for generating such in
various ways (eg. for obtaining one from four dst points, for
composing two transforms, etc.).
Ok, trying to reply to the
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
PS.
I'd just set a 4x4 proj transf (you can get some funky curved
stuff that way) and have utility functions for generating such in
various ways (eg. for obtaining one from four dst
Gustavo wrote:
- 4x4 proj transf = good, one idea that we were considering.
That's very nice for we. :)
you mean because of me? Or because of others? At least raster, if you
ask him, he have tons of ideas on how to do things, he have considered
almost every case I
Gustavo wrote:
Filters will just be filtered by filters, so it's like
SO1(O1-F1)-F2-F3. Object O1 that is filtered by F1 and inside
Smart Object SO1 that is filtered by F2 that is filtered by F3, O1
will get these 3 filters.
Example, F1 could be blur, while F2 be rotation and F3 be
I wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
Filters will just be filtered by filters, so it's like
SO1(O1-F1)-F2-F3. Object O1 that is filtered by F1 and inside
Smart Object SO1 that is filtered by F2 that is filtered by F3, O1
will get these 3 filters.
Example, F1 could be blur, while F2 be
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
Filters will just be filtered by filters, so it's like
SO1(O1-F1)-F2-F3. Object O1 that is filtered by F1 and inside
Smart Object SO1 that is filtered by F2 that is filtered by
I wrote:
However, as I said, I have no time to work on this ATM, so if you like
to try an alternative approach, please do it. Keep it as a branch
somewhere and share your results, someone may test it and see how well
it works, maybe it would suffice and this would be integrated,
everyone
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote:
However, as I said, I have no time to work on this ATM, so if you like
to try an alternative approach, please do it. Keep it as a branch
somewhere and share your results, someone may test it and see how
Cedric wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
I wrote:
However, as I said, I have no time to work on this ATM, so if you like
to try an alternative approach, please do it. Keep it as a branch
somewhere and share your results, someone may test it and see
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cedric wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
I wrote:
However, as I said, I have no time to work on this ATM, so if you like
to try an alternative approach, please do it. Keep
Gustavo wrote:
The main difference is that of avoiding the iterative 'clipping'
mechanism as the single method for doing everything.
What you want is something like: A clips B clips C clips D clips
E clips F clips G clips H say, where H is eg. an image obj and G a
transform
Just wondering if any progress has been made on this (eg.
Gustavo, Vincent, ...?), or if anyone from the SoC is planning to
give it a try?
If not, then maybe I'll spend a bit of time to at least get the
ball rolling on this for evas.. at least get image fill-transforms
(affine ones),
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if any progress has been made on this (eg.
Gustavo, Vincent, ...?), or if anyone from the SoC is planning to
give it a try?
I haven't touch my development environment for a while now. This
company
Gustavo wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
Just wondering if any progress has been made on this (eg.
Gustavo, Vincent, ...?), or if anyone from the SoC is planning to
give it a try?
I haven't touch my development environment for a while now.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
Just wondering if any progress has been made on this (eg.
Gustavo, Vincent, ...?), or if anyone from the SoC is planning to
give it a try?
i won't touch that anytime soon. I'm more focused on my new toy
(cross-compiling for wince)
Vincent
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
Just wondering if any progress has been made on this (eg.
Gustavo, Vincent, ...?), or if anyone from the SoC is planning to
give it
Gustavo wrote:
Well, what we've discussed at BossaConference, raster, cedric and
others might complement/correct me here: add a mechanism similar to
clip as it would accumulate various filters (so rotation + shear + ...
will look fine). Make a function available for the filter to query for
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