Re: [e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-10-03 Thread Marc MERLIN
2 is max, 600 is medium >     sleep 10 >     export | grep DISPLAY || exit >     export | grep DISPLAY || return >     done > } & > > > > > On 03/10/2023 19:56, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > So if there is no solution, should

Re: [e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-10-03 Thread Marc MERLIN
So if there is no solution, should I just stop using the E screensaver and switch back to xlock? On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 10:36:15AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:14:21PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > Basically I have this problem: > > > sauro

Re: [e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-09-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:14:21PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Basically I have this problem: > > sauron:~$ xset q | tail -4 > > DPMS (Energy Star): > > Standby: 300Suspend: 360Off: 420 > > DPMS is Enabled > > Monitor is On > > sauron:~$ enlightenment_remote -desktop-lock > >

Re: [e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-09-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
gt; track it. > > On 11/08/2023 22:43, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Basically I have this problem: > > sauron:~$ xset q | tail -4 > > DPMS (Energy Star): > >Standby: 300Suspend: 360Off: 420 > >DPMS is Enabled > >Monitor is On > > sauron:~$ enlig

Re: [e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-08-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
If that helps, my settings -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list

[e-users] E 0.25.3 locking resets dpms to Standby: 11 Suspend: 12 Off: 13

2023-08-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
Basically I have this problem: sauron:~$ xset q | tail -4 DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 300Suspend: 360Off: 420 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On sauron:~$ enlightenment_remote -desktop-lock sauron:~$ xset q | tail -4 DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 11Suspend: 12Off: 13 DPMS is

Re: [e-users] Cannot find presentation mode in e 0.25.3-1

2022-09-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 08:14:59PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > this is suspicious. if e had set this, it'd be 1 second. not 60. dpms it > always > set to screenblank time + 10sec (and the suspend +11, off +12). you know e set > it if this is what it says. e.g.: My xsession sets this once

Re: [e-users] Cannot find presentation mode in e 0.25.3-1

2022-09-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 09:33:47AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 21:44:27 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > Howdy, > > > > I have the deb package, and the screen lock never comes on unless I > > manually tell E to lock. > > > > I d

[e-users] Cannot find presentation mode in e 0.25.3-1

2022-09-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
Howdy, I have the deb package, and the screen lock never comes on unless I manually tell E to lock. I do find screen lock settings but they don't seem to show a timeout. Older E had a way to enable presentation mode, which would prevent screensaver from kicking in. I can't find that anywhere,

Re: [e-users] how to turn off the power connect/disconnect sound on e 0.25?

2022-04-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:56:23AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > that sound exists for a very good reason - to tell you when your power > > > > > cable has been unplugged (someone kicked it loose - you accidentally > > > > > pulled it out etc.) or to know when plugging it is was

Re: [e-users] how to turn off the power connect/disconnect sound on e 0.25?

2022-04-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:07:06AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > does sysfs actually report this? I have a thinkpad here and it doesn't do > anything like this (or i've never heard the plugging/unplugging sounds unless > i actually plug or unplug). i'd rather get to the bottom of this. > does

Re: [e-users] how to turn off the power connect/disconnect sound on e 0.25?

2022-03-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 12:55:52AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On my thinkpad it triggers all the time when the laptop decides to stop > > and start charging to keep the battery topped up. > > I wasn't able to find which setting menu this is in, can anyone give me > > a clue? > > It should

[e-users] how to turn off the power connect/disconnect sound on e 0.25?

2022-03-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On my thinkpad it triggers all the time when the laptop decides to stop and start charging to keep the battery topped up. I wasn't able to find which setting menu this is in, can anyone give me a clue? Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.

Re: [e-users] Bugfix Release: Enlightenment 0.25.3

2022-02-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:33:09AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 06:56:04 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:03:15AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > Bugfix releases. Summary info here: > > > > > > https:

Re: [e-users] Bugfix Release: Enlightenment 0.25.3

2022-02-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:03:15AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > Bugfix releases. Summary info here: > > https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2022-02-10-enlightenment-0.25.3 Thanks. Where will be the setting to turn off, be located in the menus? Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.5 -> 0.25.1-1 upgrade aftermath

2022-02-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:32:20AM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 10:20:00AM +, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:57:25 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > > > Totally fine with me, I can wait a little bit if that allows you to > > >

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.5 -> 0.25.1-1 upgrade aftermath

2022-02-03 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:01:56PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Hi Marc, > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:50:58AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 07:19:03PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Raster got back to me, and said that the problem I'm having is ind

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.5 -> 0.25.1-1 upgrade aftermath

2022-01-31 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 07:19:03PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > +Ross, debian maintainer since I'm using his package Hi Ross, Raster got back to me, and said that the problem I'm having is indeed a bug in Xorg that is triggered by E. I quote "ok - that vt thing is an xorg bug. e has a

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2022-01-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:27:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > If you want to do your own keymap stuff.. DISABLE E DOING IT. If you want E to > handle it - it needs to know your keymap exists and can be addressed in some > way. I pointed you to the files that list keymaps and their options

[e-users] E 0.23.5 -> 0.25.1-1 upgrade aftermath

2022-01-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
+Ross, debian maintainer since I'm using his package I upgaded xserver-xorg-core during my debugging but it didn't help or make things worse. I'm using a thinkpad P73 with intel graphics. ii enlightenment0.25.1-1+b1 amd64 ii xserver-xorg-core2:1.20.14-1

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 11:43:33 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 08:17:25AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > did you see my other mail in response to this to you, this list and

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 08:17:25AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > did you see my other mail in response to this to you, this list and also cc'd > adun...@igalia.com with a link to the commit? I missed it, there may be something wrong with my Email (I'm at a conf, need to check later). > yes

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 09:00:44AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > There are 2 different issues. What you describe is known broken in M94 > and fixed in M95. > The 23/24 pixel offset is related but different, and still broken, but > apparently only with E. That's what we need help wit

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 09:38:17AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > I can see what the aur has - if its updated yet. i normally use chromium not > chrome and i'm normally behind by a few weeks/months :) so aur has 94 there... > i'll see. Thanks for having had a look with it. M94 is known to be

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-22 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:37:15PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:02:37 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:33:31PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > I'm not sure how to run xev against another window (getting the &g

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-22 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:33:31PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > I'm not sure how to run xev against another window (getting the > > windowid), can you remind me? > > xev -id 0x12324455 I know that part, it's getting the correct windowid for that window. > > Although given the above, is

Re: [e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-22 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:26:50AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:47:25 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > Input goes directly from xserver to chrome - e doesn't handle kbd/mouse input > - > at most it positions windows themselves, shows, hid

[e-users] Chrome M94/M95 using WM native borders causes mouse clicks to be seen 16 pixels below where the cursor is

2021-09-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
And that only happens a few seconds after the window is started. The first few seconds, click go to the right place. After it's broken, if I restart E, clicks go to the right place again for a short time (seconds) and then go to the wrong place (16 pixels below or somesuch). If I make the window

[e-users] Using terminology and session saving

2021-01-18 Thread Marc MERLIN
I have a work computer with xfce because of $REASONS, and after confirming that xfce4-terminal is a terrible terminal (it can't even emulate things properly and the cursor doesn't align right the text in the current command line), I tried terminology. The problem is when I go to the session

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-21 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 01:50:10PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 15:08:34 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > Ok, sorry for being a noob, but I need some help. > > > > My xkb-keymap looks like nothing in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules > > All docs I fi

[e-users] E 0.24.2-5 eina_safety ../src/bin/e_pixmap.c:626 e_pixmap_size_get() safety check failed

2020-09-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
I just noticed that I have 1GB of these in my .xsession-errors ERR<1409>:eina_safety ../src/bin/e_pixmap.c:626 e_pixmap_size_get() safety check failed: cp == NULL ## Copy & Paste the below (until EOF) into a terminal, then hit Enter eina_btlog << EOF /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
saved, issue. Very perplexing) Thanks, Marc On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 05:36:30PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:49:39 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:56:31PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > repeated actions so it will

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
Sorry for the delay, busy week... On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:51:06PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 08:49:35 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > Update. I hit this occasional bug where after unlocking/screen coming > > back from sleep, I could see X, but most

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:02:11AM -0400, Conrad Knight wrote: > I posted to this list on 18th July about E 0.24 breaking xmodmap > (possibly, i was looking for confirmation and a fix). Could whatever > changed to break xkb also be affecting xmodmap? > > The tl;dr version of that message is: >

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-17 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:08:22AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > They don't. You are the first person ever to have such an issue with xkb that > I have seen who does a custom xkb layout instead of just xmodmap. I know of no > standard user file like ~/.Xmodmap for example for this - that is how

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 05:36:30PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > #ifdef XKB_BASE > XKB_BASE "/rules/xorg.lst", > XKB_BASE "/rules/xfree86.lst", > #endif > #if defined __NetBSD__ > "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst", > #elif defined __OpenBSD__ >

Re: [e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:56:31PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > repeated actions so it will have affected timing for sure and thus something > that may have worked by luck before because it happened to run at time X and e > change stuff at time Y now hae e changing stuff at a different time

[e-users] Is it possible that E 0.24 broke xkbmap?

2020-09-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
I've been doing this for a few years now: xkbcomp ~/xkb-keymap :0 This gives me accent overlays, they were working until 0.23, and when I upgraded to 0.24, they stopped working. I haven't done the downgrade to confirm this yet as it's painful (losing all my E settings), but it looks like it's E

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
E, the gtk fonts were just the right size. Now, I need to set 110 for the fonts in chrome tabs or gthumb, to be readable (they were too small). Did that randomly happen at the same time? Thanks, Marc On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 08:49:35AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Update. I hit this occasional

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
Update. I hit this occasional bug where after unlocking/screen coming back from sleep, I could see X, but most of my windows were gone, just not visible anywhere on my screens. When that happens I know it's an E bug, and I have to restart E. I did, and then all my windows came back, however most

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 08:56:49AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > it could be a race where gtk/gnome terminal is setting role AFTER it shows the > window... so it's a pure luck/race condition that by the time e responds to > the > map request and reads the window properties role may or may not

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 09:38:49PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 10:55:06 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > well given your sleeps the windows will come up after e has started... i am > wondering if its gnome-=terminal asking to move the window? tried using xterm >

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 06:27:59PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 10:03:23 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > try just move them around a bit, log in again and see. i changed logic to > handle resolution changes for remembers. it was broken until now. this means >

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-09-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:02:18AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:31:23 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > I have never seen it jumble the windows... if you lose a screen e will dump > windows onto the current screen+desktop (but their positions will be the sam

Re: [e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-08-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 09:15:41AM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 07:31:23AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > However when E restarts, it takes all my windows over 3 different > > virtual screens, and jumbles them all around, it takes me 5 to 10mn to > >

[e-users] Why do all my windows get moved over everywhere if I restart E?

2020-08-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
Sometimes E wedges, so I need to killall -SEGV enlightenment However when E restarts, it takes all my windows over 3 different virtual screens, and jumbles them all around, it takes me 5 to 10mn to fing them all and put them back where they're supposed to be. If I start E from scratch (along

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 07:18:51PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > I looked for this, but didn't find a setting. Is it a compile option or > > a setting? > > http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5eecffdb3dd9d5.28939497.png woohoo, the settings cat, where have you been all my life, settings cat?

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06:19AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > you could also just disable e's monitor hotplug support. hotplug support means > actively handling connects/disconnects when e knows about them. if it's > happening due to bad cabling or something... it's still happening. :) I

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-18 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:43:53AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > likely going to try debug an older release of e unless you're willing to > actually hack on the code and add appropriate debug, find the issue and > identify it's the same one in the current release and maybe send a patch... :) >

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:40:26AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > hmmm no. i don't see any suspicious there... i can't say what is going on. > > > perhaps a bug already long fixed? i don't know. > > > > Isn't "move resize 0 0 -65536x-65536" something bad? > > not. this is just the first

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-07 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 07:17:16PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > E remembers their new (bad) positions if I restart E while X is running > > (i.e. it won't put them back there they were before it messed them up), > > but if I restart X (and E), they do go back where they were supposed to be.

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-07 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 04:19:44PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > How do I tell E to reset all the windows to where they would be if E got > > started from scratch? Restarting E won't do it. > > I'm forced to log out and log back in, which puts my windows where > > they're supposed to be, but

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
Ok, one more question. Because this was really getting to me, I put the screen in mirror mode so that windows don't have to be moved around. This works better, but sometimes, I find my screen locked even though I was in presentation mode, and all my windows in the upper left corner, as if E

Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:28:15AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > * randr: when losing a zone/screen, put windows in purgatory and then have > purgatory screens available via pager to drag onto a current screen, > or the specific virtual desktops from purgatory to be accessible even > if

[e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
I took my older thinkpad, with a somewhat older E and older debian and sysvinit 9no systemd), and I made it a desktop machine. i installed the nvidia driver on it, because I don't care about battery use anymore. I have the screen setup as secondary (4K panel, 4K screen). When the screen turns

Re: [e-users] slow wakeup from screen off/dimmed when locked

2020-06-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 05:00:20PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > # i915_enable_rc6=1 seems buggy for GPU with chrome, and may not restore > > from > > # black screen sleep > > options i915 modeset=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 > > > > I'll see if removing i915_enable_rc6=1 is enough to fix it,

Re: [e-users] slow wakeup from screen off/dimmed when locked

2020-05-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 02:52:34PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 1 May 2020 22:47:37 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > Since I switched to the new E, when my screen is locked, my screen is > > also off. > > Several times, I've pushed a key, and nothing, screen stil

Re: [e-users] Getting a "just right" font from gnome-terminal (making the font more narrow)

2020-05-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 02:48:29PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > terminology will only offer 12 or 13. evas only offers integer font size. if > its a fractional size that by luck happens to have something round up/down to > just the size you want - it's by luck, but that's just not supported.

[e-users] slow wakeup from screen off/dimmed when locked

2020-05-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
Since I switched to the new E, when my screen is locked, my screen is also off. Several times, I've pushed a key, and nothing, screen still off, for sometimes several seconds until finally it slowly fades back on and I can finally enter my screensaver password. I honestly don't need this slow

Re: [e-users] Getting a "just right" font from gnome-terminal (making the font more narrow)

2020-05-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 07:39:53PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Here is a picture: > http://marc.merlins.org/tmp/3terms.jpg > top is gnome-terminal in size 7 > middle is ghome-terminal in size 8 but with CTRL - aka goldylocks > bottom is terminology size 11, correct width but

[e-users] Getting a "just right" font from gnome-terminal (making the font more narrow)

2020-05-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
Ok, I have a pretty confusing situation. I've spent hours on it and gotten nowhere. After playing with dpi settings and font sizes on a 4K laptop, I'm trying to get the perfect font that isn't too small and not too big, but that's actually an issue in both height and width. Obviously you'd think

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-05-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 02:03:37AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 1 May 2020 17:50:18 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > there's a mixer button button on the bottom of volume popup ... it's > essentially the same as pavucontrol :) I did find the mixer, but it didn't look like pav

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-05-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 08:23:37AM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 07:56:30AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > sauron:~$ xinput set-prop 15 "libinput Scroll Method Enabled" 0, 0, 0 > > > > And voilà, now middle mouse window size drag wor

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 08:52:40AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > alt+middle click resize works with 2 and 3 (trackpoint and USB mouse), > > but not trackpoint middle button. > > This is the weirdest thing, I don't even see how the trackpoint middle > > button can behave differently from the

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:45:27PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > luckily.. they can all by defsult go in /usr local so they won't conflict and > are easy to find. you could do --prefix=/opt/e and remove them all in one rm > -rf /opt/e :) > so it's very very very easy to be clean :) Ok, it's

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:55:47PM +0200, Massimo Maiurana wrote: > In Debian testing nm-applet works fine even in appindicator mode, just > run it with "nm-applet --indicator" and you can see it in systray. > Blueman-applet doesn't even need any option, it just works. At least > here, on a git

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 07:45:26PM +0930, Simon Lees wrote: > > ok, I missed that. > > So systray in E 23 is broke and won't get fixed, but it'll work in 0.24. > > Yes a large number of bugs were fixed here resiliently Good to hear. > nm-applet works if it is built with support for

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
(dear debian E maintainers, see below for getting a newer fixed E build to fix non working systray) On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 08:52:30AM +0200, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Using apt::recommend turned off in debian is necessary if you do not want > exotic packages installed on your system, BUT it

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:38:06PM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > The enlightenment package Recommends acpid, so by default, this should've > worked automatically. In Debian/Ubuntu, Recommends means "it's technically > possible to use without, but should be installed in all normal cases." Fair

Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
Although I made it small (70K) the list stripped my screenshot https://photos.app.goo.gl/7djJHvTEb23m3EQRA -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ ___ enlightenment-users

[e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
Howdy again, I'm trying to setup a new thinkpad (P73) which in my case is finally an upgrade to systemd. I copied over my .e directory from my old laptop so that I don't lose all my settings, especially my carefully set window placements 1) was there a better/safer way to do this? 2) When I

Re: [e-users] competitors to E?

2020-04-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:55:47AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > So, I guess no one does those two alt + mouse click gestures? > > did you see my mail? :) alt+left to move is pretty common i believe but not > the > others. Yeah, sorry, the one I'm missing elsehwere is alt + middle click.

Re: [e-users] competitors to E?

2020-04-20 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:26:33PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I'm upgrading from a thinkpad P70 to a P73 (both have 4K 17" LCDs). > > I figured that before I put all my environment back on top, I should try > another WM and maybe a DM to see how things have progressed. >

[e-users] competitors to E?

2020-04-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'm upgrading from a thinkpad P70 to a P73 (both have 4K 17" LCDs). I figured that before I put all my environment back on top, I should try another WM and maybe a DM to see how things have progressed. I'm going to skip gnome, I doubt I'll like it given how they are ok with change things between

Re: [e-users] Wayland, or not wayland?

2020-04-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
Thanks both, this is very helpful. I thought it would be further along after all these years I've been hearing about it, but I guess it's a lot more work than was planned. I do indeed need/use external display mirroring and have to turn on/off the nvidia chip in my laptop as needed. I guess I'll

[e-users] Wayland, or not wayland?

2020-04-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'm upgrading to a new laptop (thinkpad P73). It has a 100Wh battery, but it's also battery hungry, so one of my goals is to limit battery usage when using the intel driver only (I'll turn off the nvidia chip). That said, I'll still be running the usual X apps, from gthumb, to google-chrome, to

Re: [e-users] What's the best way to find battery sucking options in E 0.21?

2019-09-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:26:56AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 17:53:02 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > depends what you have visible. if you have cpufreq - reduce its poll interval > (make it slower). my close shows just minutes, not seconds, i disable I do not

[e-users] What's the best way to find battery sucking options in E 0.21?

2019-09-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
Enligthenment is awesome because of how many options it has. The downside is I'm trying to find how it uses 3W or more on my laptop when I'm not touching/moving anything and I'm not sure where to start. Any suggestions on what to try/look at? The battery reports a discharge rate of 10.5 W The

Re: [e-users] new windows/notifications displaying on top of xscreensaver

2018-08-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 12:42:23PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:34:34 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 12:29:21PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:25:23 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > >

Re: [e-users] new windows/notifications displaying on top of xscreensaver

2018-08-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 12:29:21PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:25:23 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > > > So, I'm still using xscreensaver (5.36-1) > > On my work system, when new windows or notifications get displayed > > (typically pidgin window

[e-users] new windows/notifications displaying on top of xscreensaver

2018-08-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
So, I'm still using xscreensaver (5.36-1) On my work system, when new windows or notifications get displayed (typically pidgin window, or chrome notification popup), they get displayed on top of xscreensaver. Is that xscreensaver's fault, or the window manager's fault? Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11 [solved, kinda]

2018-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:00:13PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > when mouse enters or exits the window (events from the xserver). that is how e > decides to focus it or not. Right, that's how it normally works. If you look at my video again you'll see focus is lost without me leaving the

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:00:13PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > when mouse enters or exits the window (events from the xserver). that is how e > decides to focus it or not. Right, that's how it normally works. If you look at my video again you'll see focus is lost without me leaving the

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 09:50:50AM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 05:59:18PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Ah yeah, I forgot this relevant info: > > ii libdrm-intel1:amd64 2.4.91-2 > > ii xorg1:7.7+19

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:04:03PM +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote: > This is probably a driver issue, and not E. That what Raster said when I first reported this, I believe him, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. 1) E changed to do new more fancy stuff I didn't need. 2) It triggers bugs in

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 09:32:03AM +0930, Simon Lees wrote: > > > On 09/05/18 23:50, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:16:52AM +0200, Jérémy Zurcher wrote: > >> Hello Marc, > >> > >> I don't like that default behaviour either. > >&

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'll change the title for the different discussion. First a question: does the version number mean what I think it means, or does it really not mean much? My guess/expectation is that 0.21.0 start with new features 0.21.x gets tweaks and bug fixes 0.21.11 is the last from that featureset branch

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:12:10AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Ok, so basically you are confirming that > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/GFht7beUYWbobxpP6 > > is a bug in 0.21.11 and that > > oh wit. now i see it.. as your mouse goes over "Terminal" it focused "apps > - ..." ... the pointer

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:31:30PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > I don't want this either. > > I want the window under to stay under and not exist as far as focus and > > input are concerned, the way E has behaved for me for literally 20 years > > now. > > e never behaved that way. if you

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:16:52AM +0200, Jérémy Zurcher wrote: > Hello Marc, > > I don't like that default behaviour either. > but it's very easy to disable : > Settings -> Windows -> window focus -> Click window to focus Yeah, thanks for that workaround, I could do this if I had to.

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
Hi Raster, thanks for the answers. On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:12:33AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > yes. pointer focus will focus windows under others. as per video. that is > intended. i use it all the time. i like it. mostly windows under others are > only minimally obscured. if i dont want

[e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
My most taxing problem is this now: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sz5i3LVFYhh79d9T8 All windows are set to stacking normal but some windows have a stacking so that they steal the mouse focus even tough they're underneath. I don't understand how that's possible. Should my mouse cursor ever be able to

Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-08 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 05:39:19PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > My most taxing problem is this now: > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sz5i3LVFYhh79d9T8 > All windows are set to stacking normal but some windows have a stacking > so that they steal the mouse focus even tough they're underneat

Re: [e-users] e22.0 upgrade, sigh...

2018-04-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:14:12AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I'm also using intel graphics. I didn't touch anything on my laptop > except upgrading X, and now this started misbehaving. Huge typo, I meant 'upgrading E'. X was not upgraded. Nothing was upgraded except E. On Sun, Apr 01

Re: [e-users] e22.0 upgrade, sigh...

2018-03-31 Thread Marc MERLIN
Hi Raster, Thanks for your answer. On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 04:33:59PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > when e suspends it'll "fade the screen" which also involves ramping brightness > down. on resume it does the reverse. it fades from black to normal and fades > brightness back up. this hasn't

[e-users] e22.0 upgrade, sigh...

2018-03-30 Thread Marc MERLIN
So, I guess I knew why I was apprehensive about upgrading E again. I guess I'm not lucky because each time I've done it, stuff that I do care about, has broken. For now, Raster already knows about the dragging windows to edge flip not working anymore. But more important is how when I resume from

Re: [e-users] Upgrading from E 0.21.5 to 0.22.0 breaks moving a window between virtual desktops

2018-03-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:21:27PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Known issue/behaviour, or should I file a bug? > > can't reproduce. just did it now. > > alt down > left mouse down on window > f1/2/3/4... (some other desktop) > release alt and mouse That works. What does not work anymore

[e-users] Upgrading from E 0.21.5 to 0.22.0 breaks moving a window between virtual desktops

2018-03-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
What I've been able to do with E since 1999: ALT + button 1 click on any window, move window to next virtual desktop Since 0.22, it's broken, I cannot move a window to the next virtual desktop that way. However, if I click on its title bar without alt, then I can still move it to the next

Re: [e-users] E 0.21.5 stuck at 100% CPU for days

2018-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 02:39:14PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > If E is hung solid then it'll help. But if it's working just consuming CPU, No, it's fully responsive, just taking 100% on one core and killing my battery if I'm off mains power. > it's not going to. It's likely something

Re: [e-users] E 0.21.5 stuck at 100% CPU for days

2018-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 03:20:47PM +1030, Simon Lees wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > This happens some time after I start, not right away. > > Restarting E while my desktop is running does not seem to help > > significantly. > > > > What is my best way to find out what is keeping E in a busy loop

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