Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 20:36:54 +1100 Daniel Kasak said: > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 03:37:52PM +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote: > > > Here's my take on this ... > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > No

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote: On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 03:37:52PM +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote: > > Here's my take on this ... > > Thanks for your reply. > No worries :) > So I will freely admit that my ignorance on how some things work, may be > getting

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 04:30:05PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > here i agre with you. e.g. double-click to shade/roll up. even efl is bad here > with csd. we don't do that (or support it in csd/client side). we SHOULD. it'd > have to be a policy communicated between wm and apps or just some

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 19:22:06 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 06:13:50PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > So just to be clear, they're going to stop asking E to remove the title > > > bar? If so, great. > > > > the gtk3-nocsd thing makes that happen. >

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 15:37:52 +1100 Daniel Kasak said: > Here's my take on this ... > > I accept CSD is here to stay, and I admit that I've made extensive use of > the GtkStack and GtkStackSwitcher widgets ( which embed tab-like navigators > in the header bar ). However I

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 03:37:52PM +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote: > Here's my take on this ... Thanks for your reply. So I will freely admit that my ignorance on how some things work, may be getting in the way. Maybe you can help with my lost functionality. I double click on the title bar, the

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 06:13:50PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > So just to be clear, they're going to stop asking E to remove the title > > bar? If so, great. > > the gtk3-nocsd thing makes that happen. Sure, but it's a hack. I expect it to break eventually, wouldn't you? In other words,

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 17:29:25 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 02:15:28AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > well i think it's because with gtk3 now the titlebar is also like the menu > > bar and "toolbar" and so on... this is their ux design direction. it >

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 17:29:25 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 02:15:28AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > well i think it's because with gtk3 now the titlebar is also like the menu > > bar and "toolbar" and so on... this is their ux design direction. it >

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 02:15:28AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > well i think it's because with gtk3 now the titlebar is also like the menu bar > and "toolbar" and so on... this is their ux design direction. it removes as > much of the "titlebar" bits as it can without removing actual

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

2018-02-01 20:15 GMT+01:00 maderios : > On 02/01/2018 07:42 PM, Davide Andreoli wrote: > > Check out https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd >>> >>> >> Fantastic!! I wasn't aware of this tool and I was silently suffering for >> those (f***ing) gtk csd that never do what I want. >>

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On 02/01/2018 07:42 PM, Davide Andreoli wrote: Check out https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd Fantastic!! I wasn't aware of this tool and I was silently suffering for those (f***ing) gtk csd that never do what I want. Available in Arch Linux Aur :)

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

2018-02-01 0:19 GMT+01:00 Ross Vandegrift : > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:10:35PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > I'm not trying to get rid of the gtk one, I just want to force the E one > > on top. > > This used to be possible, now it seems not to be. > > Some other window

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:20:53 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 06:23:23PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > Well, not sure what went wrong, but it's workig now, thanks. > > > > and now you don't end up with 2 titlebars. remember gtk ALSO draws the > >

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 06:23:23PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Well, not sure what went wrong, but it's workig now, thanks. > > and now you don't end up with 2 titlebars. remember gtk ALSO draws the shadow > (if there is one) and thi will add extra padding/gap of transparent shadow >

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 02:57:33PM +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote: > Oooh nice. I never noticed gthumb before :) > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:54:53PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:19:11PM

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

Oooh nice. I never noticed gthumb before :) On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:54:53PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:19:11PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > Check out

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:54:53PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:19:11PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > Check out https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd > > If you're on recent Debian, apt install gtk3-nocsd will do the trick. > > I did read about this, but never got it

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:19:11PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:10:35PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > I'm not trying to get rid of the gtk one, I just want to force the E one > > on top. > > This used to be possible, now it seems not to be. > > Some other window

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 03:10:35PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I'm not trying to get rid of the gtk one, I just want to force the E one > on top. > This used to be possible, now it seems not to be. > Some other window managers allow this. Can E re-introduce this > control/functionality? No, E

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 07:19:38AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > gthumb is explicitly asking to do this... well gthumb the client. gtk is > really I know > doing it. it says "give me a borderless window". then gtk will draw shadows > (dropshadows) AND borders inside that borderless window.

Re: [e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:16:32 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > I still have this problem. > > I just can't seem to get gthumb fixed to stop telling the WM to not > decorate it. > It's my desktop, ultimately it's my choice what I want/need and I'm > quite annoyed that e21 seems to

[e-users] How to do force window decorations on broken apps like gthumb?

I still have this problem. I just can't seem to get gthumb fixed to stop telling the WM to not decorate it. It's my desktop, ultimately it's my choice what I want/need and I'm quite annoyed that e21 seems to give me no control over gthumb's borders. Is there really no way to regain control over