On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
_Every_ charger has a battery management system.
Only if you define BMS as Bare Minimum System.
Yes -- exactly my point.
The management might only be sufficient for shoving electrons into one side
On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
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You do too. Yours is just manual. And that can work as long, as you're
thoroughly knowledgable and attentive.
That's the key point.
_Every_ charger has a battery management system. The only question is the
On 16 Jun 2015 at 5:52, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
A battery monitor is fine battery management should be avoided.
In the early days of the EVDL, we debated (sometimes pretty strongly) AC vs
DC motors and flooded vs AGM batteries. IIRC, though, there weren't many of
the AGM crew who said forget
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
_Every_ charger has a battery management system.
Only if you define BMS as Bare Minimum System.
A normal battery charger can only see the total pack voltage. It has to
make all its determinations based on nothing but this voltage, and maybe
the apparent total pack
Ben Just explained the American Way.. LR
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To: Lawrence Rhodes primobass...@sbcglobal.net; Electric Vehicle Discussion
List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Last call for LeSled
On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:42
Skip the BMS
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On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Tom Keenan via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I can understand the lack of potential conversion buyers. My present EV, a
1989 Ford Escort converted by a company in Santa Rosa, was on sale at one
point for $2,000 but it never
I have to concur. When a suitable battery pack and BMS are a significant
percentage of a used Leaf, it's going to be hard to justify completing the
project. But it certainly is much *cooler* than a Leaf. That's what
hot-rodding is all about. Expense is secondary, even for the thrifty.
sean
On 15 Jun 2015 at 5:49, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
Skip the BMS
Don't.
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It's not really a new problem. It's always been hard to find someone
interested in buying a conversion, except, perhaps, from with your local
EV interest group.
One of the members of our local EAA chapter converted a 1998 Ford Ranger
in 2007. 120 volt, 24 6-volt lead-acid batteries, Russco
in the Carribean.
Barry
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Rick Beebe via EV
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:38 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Last call for LeSled
It's not really a new problem. It's always been hard to find someone
And don't forget the Mustang that another list member is converting.
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On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
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On 15 Jun 2015 at 10:37, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
And while it's a very nice near-factory-quality EV now, it's still
Chris,
I read that you have no batteries in your LeSled
even though you modified the firewall and fenders to take 20 GC batteries,
in case someone is interested in installing a Lithium pack in there,
I have more than 120V worth of used cells that I can let go for a price
not much more than a new
On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I agree. This is a dead weight holding back sales of used conversions. For
many good reasons, lots of EV hobbyists convert old vehicles. The problem is
that when you go to sell, the vehicle is even older. And
On 15 Jun 2015 at 10:37, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
And while it's a very nice near-factory-quality EV now, it's still
17 years old.
I agree. This is a dead weight holding back sales of used conversions. For
many good reasons, lots of EV hobbyists convert old vehicles. The problem is
that
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:15 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
On 15 Jun 2015 at 5:49, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
Skip the BMS
Don't.
Do!
But do your homework and don't blindly listen to the you have to have
a BMS! crowd or the you should never have a BMS crowd. Do your
I don't shop where I can't charge.
Sorry if this was already mentioned in other responses ,...but are you
marketing to the right audience? How to get High school and community college
kids to get into EVs with out a test tune destination?
Some places/school still have room for kids to
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I can understand the lack of potential conversion buyers. My present EV, a
1989
IMO your asking price is more than reasonable for this conversion. You've
put a lot of work into it and it shows. It would be unthinkable to either
junk it or de-convert it.
I'd love to take it off your hands, but if I bring home any more EV projects
(or projects of just about any kind) I'll
Hi All,
Having been in this trade for many years now, I have found this to be an
all too common fate for many EV projects.
I personally have close to a dozen EVs that are waiting to see new
batteries, but are otherwise in perfect or near perfect running condition.
The lead technology of the past
This is the state of used home built EVs. No interest. The parts in this
vehicle are worth 10 k. What a shame. With the right pack this vehicle out
range and perform any factory EV. It will also be better when the factory EV
is broken as it will be fixable by the owner or any ev
I can understand the lack of potential conversion buyers. My present EV, a
1989 Ford Escort converted by a company in Santa Rosa, was on sale at one point
for $2,000 but it never sold. Ultimately, the owner put it up for grabs on the
local EAA list. I put a set of new lead acid batteries in,
On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
With the right pack this vehicle out range and perform any factory EV. It
will also be better when the factory EV is broken as it will be fixable by
the owner or any ev converter. The factory ev will cost big
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