Re: [EVDL] Spanish EV charging (was J1772 might not go to a low level...)

David, This sounds familiar in a way. The practice in The Netherlands is that your monthly fixed "meter charge" is dependent on the "strength" of the connection, even though every home is already has wiring to the 3-phase grid with plenty fat connections, a home is typically wired with a few 16A

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

Yes you are right.  Dangerous.  I got away with it and charged a 30kw Leaf on a 20 amp circuit. By noon and rising temperatures(40 degrees)  it was tapering.  126 miles, plenty of range to get back to San Francisco.  Wiring upgrade to come.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part

Re: [EVDL] Spanish EV charging (was J1772 might not go to a low level ...)

On 12/25/2016 07:14 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 25 Dec 2016 at 14:56, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: The source I was reading said that to keep the rates low, many Spanish homes have a total capacity of just 3.3kW! ( You'd have to upgrade a 3.3kW home to at least 4.4kW and

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[EVDL] Spanish EV charging (was J1772 might not go to a low level ...)

On 25 Dec 2016 at 14:56, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > ... the 2011/2012 Leaf ... is specifically aimed at the European situation > where most plugs and circuits are rated and fused to 230V 16A which > means a max 3.7kW so a 3.3kW charger maxes out a standard wall plug in > Europe ... This

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The elimination of the $7,500 tax break associated with EVs would be beneficial to Tesla since they have just about used up their allotted 200,000 production allotted to each manufacture. It would level the playing field for them. Of Course it would hurt those who still have only partially used

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

I am sure Lawrence is talking about his 2016 Leaf with 30kWh (not kW) pack. Since it is a newer Leaf, it will charge at 6.6kW instead of the 3.3 that the 2011/2012 Leaf takes (which is specifically aimed at the European situation where most plugs and circuits are rated and fused to 230V 16A which

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

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Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

On 25 Dec 2016 at 13:03, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Even though the (cold-exposed) breaker might not trip, please remember the > purpose of the breaker is to protect the *wire* after the breaker from > overload. The breaker is also intended to protect the receptacle and connected

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

On 25 Dec 2016 at 19:42, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I have been charging the 30kw Leaf for hours now and still not tripped the > breaker here in Modesto ... I take it this is 240v, so you have a 125 amp breaker? That's what you would need to deliver 30kw. I assume that's wired directly

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

All modern multi-voltage high power supplies and chargers that I know use a PFC (Power Factor Correction) front end to guarantee that they draw current in phase with the voltage and correct the power factor to very close to 1 so that the load looks like a resistor with the real Wattage identical

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

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Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

Thank you, Bruce and Lee. That is the additional information I was looking for. The only way I have to measure the power factor of my Kia Soul EV+ is to charge off of 120V. Is it safe to assume that the PF on 120V will be substantially similar at 240V? Thank you again and hope you are having a

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Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

From: David Nelson via EV >Please note that I am not asking about electrical code here! I know >what the code says. > >What is the actual sustained current carrying ability of the NEMA >L6-30 plug/sockets? The ACTUAL capacity is determined by the temperature rise. The

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

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Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

I will assume you will be only loading the connectors with today's standard of power factor corrected (pfc) chargers (no current spikes). Spiky current loads make connectors cook. If you get a chance to see an old 1990's conversion using a spiky BC-20 (light dimmer) charger that has a L6-30

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

I've done that with one of my adapters for a Zivan NG3 so I could use it with a 14-30 or 14-50 receptacle. Do you know of any locking 50A plugs/receptacles that aren't $70+ each? On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > David, > I have not much

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

I'm not sure of the quality of the sockets used by the evseupgrade adapters I have so the over time quality of the connections might be a concern. I suppose I could use the L6-30 now and when I upgrade to a faster charging vehicle and will be using the full 40A capacity I can change to a different

Re: [EVDL] J1772 might not go to a low level but just trip breaker.

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Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

David, I have not much experience with L6-30 connectors and whether its contacts are same or different than a 50 Amp version (which you really need to sustain 40A continuous). The NEMA 14-30 and 14-50 (the flat blade clothes dryer and RV plugs) are often identical, you can get a plug that has two

Re: [EVDL] Actual current carrying ability of NEMA L6-30

On 24 Dec 2016 at 23:32, David Nelson via EV wrote: > What is the actual sustained current carrying ability of the NEMA > L6-30 plug/sockets? I may be proven wrong, but I don't think you're going to get a definitive answer to this question. The manufacturer and vendors will tell you it's 30