Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-24 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Fortunately it's been awhile since I had to use rental cars agencies regularly, but I don't like to rely on them unless I absolutely have to, so can't blame anyone for not doing this. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: . On

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I would like to hear what people have to say on all the topics I have seen so far. This list would be far less useful to me if it is limited to BEV. The possible exception is over unity. Those can be fun to watch, but ultimately dismissing them makes sense as they are a waste of time. In the

Re: [EVDL] Charter Change?

2014-11-24 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
whether it's the DIY and hobbyist nature of the list is what's unique and what people want to maintain That's what I'm here for. I scroll through any postings about production EVs. Not that I don't think they're a good idea; they just don't interest *me*. Jan Steinman,

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-23 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
] Charter change? On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, how about if the charter restricts it to vehicles powered by electric motors and a fuel source *other than* conventional gasoline, diesel, or other fossil fuels? In other words, itemize what fuel

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-23 Thread robert winfield via EV
@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charter change? Peri - Your argument gets my vote.  MW On 23 Nov 2014, at 06:12, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I think you're right, Ben, but I don't think that plug-in hybrids should be part of the charter

[EVDL] EVDL Charter change

2014-11-23 Thread David Chapman via EV
 David, could we set a deadline on debating this issue so we can vote and get it over with rather than rehash ad nauseum? Lately the list seems to have gone far afield from discussing EVs. Dach.  -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-23 Thread robert winfield via EV
PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charter change? I say Enthusiastic Yes! to the proposal. I came to the EVDL in 1999 for help to get a driveable electric pick up on stage for a show. While doing that (successfully thanks to EVDL folks) I decided that I wanted to build a daily driver for my commute. I'm

Re: [EVDL] EVDL Charter change

2014-11-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Nov 2014 at 21:18, David Chapman via EV wrote:  David, could we set a deadline on debating this issue so we can vote and get it over with rather than rehash ad nauseum? Even if I put a deadline on it, I expect that people would still keep the thread going for days or weeks past the

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread nicklogan via EV
David, I agree with your changes that would restrict the discussion list to BEV's. I find it particularly annoying that there are a number of paid industry propagandists that continually try to bend the discussion to their benefactors point of view. Regards, John Nicholson -- View this

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, how about if the charter restricts it to vehicles powered by electric motors and a fuel source *other than* conventional gasoline, diesel, or other fossil fuels? In other words, itemize what fuel sources the list

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Mike Beem via EV
I say Enthusiastic Yes! to the proposal. I came to the EVDL in 1999 for help to get a driveable electric pick up on stage for a show. While doing that (successfully thanks to EVDL folks) I decided that I wanted to build a daily driver for my commute. I'm still driving electric conversions now, and

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Interesting, while the current charter may have seemed obsolete a few years ago, changes in technology make it now seem as relevant as ever. I think you should leave it, though I really like the hobbyist aspect of this list. If your goal is is that, you ought to make changes to reflect that.

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Such as the guy that wanted to incorporate diesel? I don't remember the detail, but while that turned my own stomach, I am also fascinated by the many ways in which EV is done by hobbyists. So while I agree with what are suggesting, it seems that the question is really about whether it's the

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org To: Lee Hart leeah...@earthlink.net; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 22-Nov-14 10:38:59 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charter change? On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: So, how about if the charter restricts

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-21 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
Should the EV drag racing restriction be specifically mentioned in the charter? It seems like something that goes out in the footer of every message might warrant inclusion in the charter. Mike On November 21, 2014 1:11:05 AM MST, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I suppose

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
, in your garage; I think this is fair - not really any different than sourcing electricity from coal generation. Peri -- Original Message -- From: EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 21-Nov-14 12:11:05 AM Subject: [EVDL] Charter change