Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
oes down. Oops, this >>> would kill sales of their powerwall. >>> >>>> On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote: >>>> Here what I was going to post, read: >>>> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: &l

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Backup Power)

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
You can buy a used Leaf with twice the capacity of a power wall for 1/3rd the price. Then a $150 inverter connected to the 12v system to power the lights and refrigerator in your house and you have emergency power for a week. Plus you can take it to the grocery store or anywhere else local for

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Backup Power)

2020-05-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I agree, I've done something like that already (with my S-10 truck battery pack) for my well pump and fridge. But I would LOVE to have the whole house auto-switchover without me having to move extension cords around to various devices... Jay On 5/20/20 11:52 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: You

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
; >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use >>>> their big battery to run

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/19/20 11:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this would kill sales of their powerwall. I would love to have a powerwall (or two) which would give me

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread paul dove via EV
I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the battery so that when the range dropped I get it replaced free. You can save a lot of money with DIY or just owning your own power generation maybe in the long run but lots of people will pay more gladly if someone else

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
At some point, we're going to need lots of grid storage. Right now, the mix of wind and solar is relatively low. But as that increases, we'll need storage capacity to span non generative periods. During transition, we can still rely on natural gas power plants and others. Eventually, we'll

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Home batteries)

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
What is amazing to me is that Maryland offers Tax credits for Home storage up to $5k. But ONLY if it is independent for b ackup and not connected to the grid! Clearly their "green" guys had no clue. I can see no environmental benefit to home standby batteries, compared to grid-tied peak supply.

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Home batteries)

2020-05-20 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Distributed generation incentive that reduces the need for grid capacity and maintenance? - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 20, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > What is amazing to me is that Maryland offers Tax credits for Home storage > up to $5k.

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
sales of their powerwall. >>> >>>> On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote: >>>> Here what I was going to post, read: >>>> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/att

Re: [EVDL] Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Home batteries)

2020-05-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
It would be interesting to know their rational. It could be that they want more uniformity on their load. If someone has their own solar panels, then on good days, they have no load but at night and bad days they do. Thus, the energy company still has to have capacity for that customer. The

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Home batteries)

2020-05-20 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
lots of people will pay more >>> gladly if someone else is in charge of keeping it operational. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV >>>>> >>>>> w

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread paul dove via EV
lan Arrison via EV >>>> wrote: >>> >>> People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use >>> their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this >>> would kill sales of their powerwall. >>

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G (Home batteries)

2020-05-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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[EVDL] Scusi! Roll-over Ferrari, and tell Enrico the news

2020-05-20 Thread evln via EV
https://electrek.co/2020/05/17/not-ready-until-2025-lol-here-are-10-evs-that-smoke-ferrari-now/ Not ready until 2025? LOL, here are 10 EVs that smoke Ferrari now May. 17th 2020 ... Enrico Galliera, Ferrari’s chief commercial officer, this week said that EV battery technology is “not developed

[EVDL] Last straw with prius battery pack!

2020-05-20 Thread K O via EV
Looking for a used ready-made ASAP. spark & e-golf will fit my driveway. it's bee season..can't get to the apiaries on a bike. I don't want to spend ALL my battery pack money but there is going to be a while before I can get that project done. http://www.evalbum.com/1745thanks for all leads..

Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G

2020-05-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
V2G smells a lot like time of use metering. Too many utilities push TOU hard, especially in Europe, and then the residents discover that they've been bamboozled. Despite paying for timers (and often electricians to install them), they end up paying MORE for electricity. The utilities just