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As our sysop, David, said this thread is ot because I am not driving an EV at
this time (true). But hopefully (as he said) it will have detail useful for
those that are.
I appreciate all your opinions, and later I may want to take Willie up on
his generous offer (thank you) to have my vehicle be the 11th parked on his
property.
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Willie wrote:
I agree with Cor that Bruce will likely encounter no trouble driving his
California registered car in Texas. At least as long as the car is legal in
California and likely long after the car is illegal in California.
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And there lies the rub [
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Therein+lies+the+rub ]
(and perhaps more information to help clarify ...)
On 20171102, when I turned in to the CA dmv the owner's title (signed over
to me), vehicle paperwork, and paid my ($$$) dmv fees at a local CA dmv
office, the dmv rep said at the end of our business, I was now legal, paid
up in full, I should expect a title with my name on it in the postal mail in
a couple weeks, and with the large red paper they gave me to place on my
windshield, the NOV (expired) rear license-plate-sticker did not matter
(because the large red dmv paper gave me permission to drive on CA roads
until 20180101).
The TX vehicle registration rep said I need the title (I would not be legal
until I showed her the title in MY name).
She did said I could get three, 6 month extensions allowing me to drive the
vehicle on TX roads, but that was it (after those, no more).
So, while it seems like I am impatient, in a sense, I have a time-limit
gun-to-my head. My ability to drive on CA roads expires at the end of this
month. (Worse case) If as posted it may take year(s) for this to work its
way through the CA dmv for me to get the title ...
(meanwhile the vehicle parked at Willie's farm, has tall prairie grass
growing around it, rusting with a hard to replace dead battery (a huge strut
is in the way), is sitting, sitting, sitting there, adding to the nesting
sites of field mice.
In that scenario, even when I did get the title, about all I could do with
the vehicle is have it towed away for scrap (which is what I plan to do when
I go to CA).
It as been two months since the dmv rep gave me her blessing. So, I have a
vote of no-confidence in the CA dmv, I believe that they are inept, and that
I will likely never receive the title. So, yes I am (ticking-expiration
date) anxious to get out from under this situation before I am not legally
allowed to drive the vehicle on the road of any state.
(tasks)
Pacing the amount of physical exercise so as to not stress my CHF heart
condition, today was my second day emptying out the vehicle, placing my
stuff in storage (task accomplished, I immediately went back to where I am
staying and took a nap to recover).
BTW, while I was signing my life away to pay for arranging to have that
storage space, their rep came from SoCal (Temecula , the Inland Empire is
near to Los Angeles, CA area) said, 'that is odd, I did not have any
problems transferring to TX' (like what Willie said). Further discussion
revealed that her company had a dept. to make the transition transparent.
That explains a lot. I know about those 'company travel dept's'. It is their
job to know all the ins and outs to make it easy on company employees (I
used similar travel dept's when I was a hp CE for 25 years).
But doing a transition on your own (despite all the research homework I
thought I had done), you run into requirements that impede, and slow that
transition process down to maybe not happening if you do not resolve those
issues ... (life can be tough).
(Itinerary)
For the next four days before I leave TX for another week+ trek back to CA,
I will be familiarizing myself with the used car dealers in this TX local
area. My choice of vehicle type may be different this time. In this part of
TX, the pick-up truck is king. My current needs are simple. I likely won't
be driving more th 7 mils per week to buy groceries (same as before). Plus I
hope to make the annual 2hour each way trek south to San Antonio's NDEW
EVent.
For my future needs, the VA may be providing me with a e-mobility cart (my
hips are wearing out). So, the used TX inspected and registered vehicle I
buy will need to be able to transport/carry one of those pEVs. A truck, or
van would likely be what I should get to be ready for that future need, see:
https://www.universal-accessibility.com/cache/124716233/resources/product/339/picture.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qYPgzBZLaSM/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.mobilityworks.com/images_vans/ford_transitconnect.jpg
https://www.4-medical-supplies.com/cache/1463071386000https://www.4-medical-supplies.com/cache/1247164183000/resources/product/527/picture.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pQXsnpkY4Qs/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.blvd.com/wheelchair-vans-dir/ocean/1488901441one.jpg
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Re: [EVDL] Returning x2: (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...
On 01/04/2018 12:40 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Bruce, Why all the haste to get a TX title while DMVs are notorious for taking ~6 weeks to even open their mail? One of my (former) colleagues worked for our company in GA but then was Just a thought to wait a little for this to get settled and proudly drive your CA car till you are official owner. I agree with Cor that Bruce will likely encounter no trouble driving his California registered car in Texas. At least as long as the car is legal in California and likely long after the car is illegal in California. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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This is somewhat off topic (especially since Bruce is licensing an ICEV), but it does pertain to people who move with their EVs. It may be different today -- lots of government functionaries have become way more legalistic -- but I lived in another state for over 3 years back in the 1990s, and never re-titled or licensed any of my vehicles there. When I had to renew the licenses, I just drove back to my "home" state (abouit an 8 hour drive). No one ever gave me any trouble, even when I got rear-ended and had to deal with police reports and insurance. Similarly, a friend of mine moved from another state to this one. He lived here for the last 30+ years of his life (he died in 2009). He never got a drivers' license here, nor did he ever transfer the titles or licenses to his cars. No problems. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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Bruce,
Why all the haste to get a TX title while DMVs are notorious for taking
~6 weeks to even open their mail?
One of my (former) colleagues worked for our company in GA but then was
asked to come work at HQ
in CA, so he drove his GA car to CA and it was more than a year later
before he had his first comment that
he should move the title over to CA if he (continued) to work here.
He did have problems with unpaid tickets in GA, but never with his
driving a GA plated car in CA
for more than a year.
I presume that in 1 or 2 months, the CA DMV has finally worked though
their backlog and settled you as owner
of your car and then you should have no issue to get it moved to TX.
BTW, this may not be entirely legal as it is often required by (local)
law to get your title updated within weeks
when you move permently or start working in a new state, but how can you
even keep that law if the DMV
that you depend on to be able to register, does not process their
paperwork within a month or two?
Local enforcement also knows this problem and that is probably why there
is little enforcement that I know of
for immediately getting local plates. You do what you can, but you can
only do what others allow you if they
are the ones you depend on for the action you need to take.
Just a thought to wait a little for this to get settled and proudly
drive your CA car till you are official owner.
Cor.
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Subject: [EVDL] Returning x2: (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...
EVLN news status: the EV news items for a short while began again. But
slowed down today. Let's hope they pick up again. See below* as there
will be delays again in EVLN newswire posts ...
(ot) My status: stable (I have lodging) but I'm still not legal ...
Completed/achieved: a permanent address let me switch my car insurance
to state it is for TX (which is one of the requirements of getting a TX
driver's license).
I sent away for an official copy of my birth certificate, being sent to
a (UPS store) mailing address I bought.
A second call to CA dmv gave a different reason I still do not have what
I need to make TX vehicle registration dept. happy (TX registration &
licenses are separate groups/bldgs). So, CA dmv ('s screwups) has me in
limbo.
The easiest approach is to let this (CA dmv messed up) vehicle go (find
a new owner for this vehicle and walk away from it. After so much ... it
seems like a shame, but I need to get on with my life and not be
delayed/jerked-around by CA dmv red tape).
*This means in a few days, I will have to drive this vehicle (2000+mi)
back to CA to get this resolved.
I have had a lot of helpful information given to me by the friendly
local folk. An Uhaul rep that came from CA said, 'Yup CA dmv does screw
up so that is not so strange'. He had to get rid of a good car back in
CA by abandoning it (I am going to try to be as legal as possible). That
last dmv call said my name shows up as the pending owner as soon as a
special dmv dept checks.
Until then (legally) the guy I bought it from is still the owner (what a
limbo-land mess!).
Tomorrow, I hope to finish emptying out the vehicle of all my stuff into
local TX storage, and then spend some time looking around at used
(legal) TX vehicles to know what I will buy when I return.
Once back in CA and before I lose the (albatrose) vehicle, I will see
about getting an official copy of my birth certificate, if it has not
arrived at the TX mail service.
When vehicle-less, I will fly back, rent a car, then start looking for a
TX registered (legal) used vehicle, and get on with my life.
As you can read, I have a lot of chores to complete (it is not easy to
become a Texan). But I hope to have better wifi access luck with the
different motels I stay at on the way back, so I can still post/shoot a
few EVLN items out, while I continue to live out of a suitcase.
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Re: [EVDL] Returning x2: (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...
On 01/04/2018 03:11 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: (ot) My status: stable (I have lodging) but I'm still not legal ... A second call to CA dmv gave a different reason I still do not have what I need to make TX vehicle registration dept. happy Hi Bruce, It's not just CA. I'm having much the same problem getting a car titled in MN that I bought in MA. 9 months and still counting! Each state points the finger at the other. But, hang in there. You are in the right, so stick to it, and it will eventually get sorted out. You know what they say about government and excrement: "This too shall pass." Meanwhile, best wishes in your new home. Wishing you a happy and healthy new year. And thanks for ALL your EVangel hard work and news postings! -- Whether we or our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory, and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Returning x2: (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...
On 01/04/2018 03:11 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
EVLN news status: the EV news items for a short while began again. But
slowed down today. Let's hope they pick up again. See below* as there will
be delays again in EVLN newswire posts ...
(ot) My status: stable (I have lodging) but I'm still not legal ...
Completed/achieved: a permanent address let me switch my car insurance to
state it is for TX (which is one of the requirements of getting a TX
driver's license).
I sent away for an official copy of my birth certificate, being sent to a
(UPS store) mailing address I bought.
A second call to CA dmv gave a different reason I still do not have what I
need to make TX vehicle registration dept. happy (TX registration & licenses
are separate groups/bldgs). So, CA dmv ('s screwups) has me in limbo.
The easiest approach is to let this (CA dmv messed up) vehicle go (find a
new owner for this vehicle and walk away from it. After so much ... it seems
like a shame, but I need to get on with my life and not be
delayed/jerked-around by CA dmv red tape).
*This means in a few days, I will have to drive this vehicle (2000+mi) back
to CA to get this resolved.
I have had a lot of helpful information given to me by the friendly local
folk. An Uhaul rep that came from CA said, 'Yup CA dmv does screw up so that
is not so strange'. He had to get rid of a good car back in CA by abandoning
it (I am going to try to be as legal as possible). That last dmv call said
my name shows up as the pending owner as soon as a special dmv dept checks.
Until then (legally) the guy I bought it from is still the owner (what a
limbo-land mess!).
Tomorrow, I hope to finish emptying out the vehicle of all my stuff into
local TX storage, and then spend some time looking around at used (legal) TX
vehicles to know what I will buy when I return.
Once back in CA and before I lose the (albatrose) vehicle, I will see about
getting an official copy of my birth certificate, if it has not arrived at
the TX mail service.
When vehicle-less, I will fly back, rent a car, then start looking for a TX
registered (legal) used vehicle, and get on with my life.
As you can read, I have a lot of chores to complete (it is not easy to
become a Texan). But I hope to have better wifi access luck with the
different motels I stay at on the way back, so I can still post/shoot a few
EVLN items out, while I continue to live out of a suitcase.
I'm astonished you are having so much trouble since it seems hundreds of
Californians move to Texas each day (and probably vice versa). I gather
that the root of the problem is that you tried to import your newly
purchased car before it's California ownership had completely "settled"?
I'm just returning from a short trip to southern California and have had
my preconceived notions entirely reinforced.
I intended to comment earlier on your Texas inspection questions but
didn't get around to it. As you probably know by now, there is a one
time import inspection that is very quick simple and easy; it just
confirms that your vehicle matches your title. Cost is low to nothing
but not performed by common "safety" inspection stations (AFAIK). Maybe
one designated place per county. The "Safety" inspection has to be
performed annually (or maybe it is once every two years now) on each car
registered in the state. That includes emissions tests in the counties
that require. Probably not in Belton/Temple.
On your car disposal problem (if you decide you can not get clear
California title while the car is in Texas): Salvage yards are required
to get titles with the junk cars but many will take title less vehicles.
They will pay if with title but not if without. They MAY be willing
to accept your California title. A car is worth around $200 for "crush"
value.
I have ~10 old dead cars sitting around; you are welcome to add yours to
my collection. While being stored, you can try to straighten out the
title or you can work on parting it out. Offer a "pull your own part"
deal on CraigsList.
Depending on the value of the car, it may not be worth the pain of a
road round trip to California to resolve a title problem.
A Texas used car dealer might be willing to buy the car and know how to
deal with the title problem. Of course that would reduce the value. A
used car dealer might be more willing to deal with it if you offered it
as trade in. The whole car might be sold on CL as a "parts" car.
There are Texas businesses that specialize in title solutions. As I
recall, I hired one to provide a "bonded" title on the Hyundai that came
out of one of the Carolinas as a new car. Right now, I can not be more
specific. As I recall, a couple of hundred dollars made that title
problem go away and I now have a regular Texas title on it. As I
recall, the business I used catered mainly to used car dealers.
Good luck! Let me know if I can help.
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