Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

ey do, "I'm down." > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "EV List Lackey via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "EV List Lack

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in the macho bulldozer look at the expense of other factors. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Paul Compton" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-2

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On Fri, 20 May 2022 at 19:50, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient. Why does > that matter? You seem to be under the impression that a lower Cd equals lower drag. You might want to go and look up the meaning of the word coefficient.

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Reminds me of all the people defending AT when they lost in court to MCI. Talking about how bad it was to break up AT as if they did us any favors. Now you see the same thing only it’s against Tesla for daring to start their own car company and to boot not use advertising or dealerships. What

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

On 5/21/22 12:51, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: AP and FSD statistics are that a driver using it is far less likely to have an accident than a driver that does not use it. Citation needed, if you don't mind. Not Tesla stats, please. If other statistics are available, I am unaware. 

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

On 5/21/22 12:51, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: There are also folks for whom Musk's crassness, disregard for environmental, financial, and labor laws, and abuse of employees (especially women and minorities) are features, not bugs. I don't know enough about Musk to offer such a firm opinion;

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tually. But COVID sharply accelerated the > change. Likewise, so did Musk. > > Peri > > From: Willie via EV > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:34 AM > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: Willie > Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch > >

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On 21 May 2022 at 8:34, Willie via EV wrote: > I do wish Musk would be more circumspect in his public statements but I > consider that flaw to be dwarfed by his accomplishments. What can I tell you? For some people, it's the other way round. As with the friend I mentioned, for them, Musk's

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the trend was evident. The shift was certain to happen ...eventually. But COVID sharply accelerated the change. Likewise, so did Musk. Peri From: Willie via EV Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:34 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Willie Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf hea

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On 5/20/22 13:29, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote: I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without Tesla and Musk.  That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward both. Hmm, I thought I'd answered that in past posts. Sorry

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On 20 May 2022 at 18:50, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient ... > > I wish Tesla would come out with an off road model. If they did, I almost guarantee that it wouldn't have as low a drag coefficient. David Roden, EVDL moderator &

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to that tires with enough sidewall for same. In spite of > Musk, when they do, "I'm down." > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "EV List Lackey via EV&

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cleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "EV List Lackey via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "EV List Lackey" Sent: 20-May-22 10:29:40 Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote: I find i

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On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote: > I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without > Tesla and Musk.  That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward > both. Hmm, I thought I'd answered that in past posts. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I'll try again, and I

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

On 5/19/22 10:44, jamie via EV wrote: But to claim the LEAF was immediately "abandoned" as a product would be a stretch as Nissan has added features, changed the battery tech and increased the range over successive model years. "Idiosyncrasies and workarounds" is a subjective judgement

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On 5/19/22 13:09, EV List Lackey via EV wrote You can't stomach the idea of buying a GM product after what they did to the EV1? That's OK too. GM's primary sin was not what they did to EV1.  But, what they did to NiMH.  One might argue that they had every right to bury both but NiMH was, by

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On 19 May 2022 at 8:44, jamie via EV wrote: > "Idiosyncrasies and workarounds" is a subjective judgement that could be > leveled at any car I've ever driven. We all might feel we could do better than > the car companies in a variety of ways. An astute observation. When it comes to choices,

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To be sure (as Willie so often reminds us in many LEAF threads), Nissan's 2011 model LEAF had some battery issues for some users especially in hot climates, and their lack of support on that issue has been worthy of criticism. But to claim the LEAF was immediately "abandoned" as a product

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On 5/19/22 09:33, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 5/19/22 01:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: There's no way (at least that I'm aware of) to override [the charge timer]. It's plain idiotic. On my 2015 leaf, there is a dash button "Charge Timer Off" (it's an icon with a sorta clock and plug

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

On 5/19/22 01:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: There's no way (at least that I'm aware of) to override [the charge timer]. It's plain idiotic. On my 2015 leaf, there is a dash button "Charge Timer Off" (it's an icon with a sorta clock and plug with the word "Off"). If you want to charge

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

If you leave every morning at the same time, the in-car / dash based "climate timer" makes it easy to have your vehicle turn on the HVAC system just before (for example) 8am. (at whatever settings you left it when you turned off the car, so you need to be sure to set it right before you

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

ent: 18-May-22 21:44:53 Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch Another option, which has been useful for us, is to use the LEAF's built-in separate timed settings for both charging and preconditioning. With those settings an internet connection is not required. Cheers,  -Jamie On 5/18/22

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On 18 May 2022 at 21:31, Otmar Lists Account via EV wrote: > Alternatively, people are using the OVMS to provide those functions and more > with an app. Otmar, that's most interesting. Thank you for posting it. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this

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that I'm aware of) to override. It's plain idiotic. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "jamie via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "jamie" Sent: 18-May-22 21:44:53 Subject

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On 19 May 2022 at 14:18, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > ou also _really_ need the heater and/or air conditioning to defog the > windshield. The blower alone just doesn't do it. Bill's spot on. Ask anyone who's ever driven a Comuta-Car. :-\ David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me,

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Another option, which has been useful for us, is to use the LEAF's built-in separate timed settings for both charging and preconditioning. With those settings an internet connection is not required. Cheers, -Jamie On 5/18/22 10:31 PM, Otmar Lists Account via EV wrote: Preconditioning,

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Preconditioning, especially while charging is a fantastic benefit. Sadly the Nissan Connect for Leaf was on 2G cellular, and there was an update to 3G, but now that is going away as well and there seems to be no 4G LTE upgrade. Alternatively, people are using the OVMS to provide those

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

The Leaf has an app that runs on your cellphone that can allow it to pre-heat or pre-cool the car interior while it is plugged in. You can also set a time to do this manually from the dash. Makes a HUGE difference in range if you can use this feature. Easier than defeating the heater somehow.

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

There are more details on 3 ways to do this here. Probably still helpful despite many image links being broken. https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=11412 -Otmar > On May 18, 2022, at 1:48 PM, redscooter via EV wrote: > > on

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On 18 May 2022 at 13:48, redscooter via EV wrote: > modify so the heat does not come on Maybe this is a dumb question, since I know nothing of Leaves - but could you just pull the fuse for the heat? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I