[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Dylan Jay
Why do you preclude asia pacific in the slide on who uses Plone? Looks bad for us to show that in our region. NZ gov and AU gov are both using Plone, and its big in japan. Might be better to say something like - X gov, Y local gov, Z major non profit, Z top corporations etc... not that that is easy

[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Constance Kobylarz
Hello Dylan, You make a good point. I got that quote directly from plonegov.org (http://www.plonegov.org/summary) and included it because that quote is on slide 9 of Virginia's slide deck. I will see if I can rephrase. Cheers, Constance -Original Message- From: Dylan Jay [mailto:[EMAI

[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Dylan Jay
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 5:44 PM > To: Alexander Limi > Cc: Nate Aune; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Constance Kobylarz; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dylan Jay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Johnson; > Mark A Corum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robe

[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Dylan Jay
> -Original Message- > From: Nate Aune [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:26 PM > To: Matt Hamilton > Cc: Alexander Limi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Constance Kobylarz; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dylan Jay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Johnson; > Mark A Corum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rob

[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 21 Oct 2008, at 05:25, Nate Aune wrote: I know one large non-profit that chose a commercial intranet solution over Plone because the commercial vendor included everything in the pricing, and the product appeared to do more "out-of-the-box" whereas Plone appeared to require a lot of customiza

[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Constance Kobylarz
Hello everyone, I have combined Nate's presentation with the one I started to give a unified look. I modified the cost chart to take your discussions into account. http://www.slideshare.net/ckwilde/world-plone-day-2008-presentation-6745 06/ Thank you all for your help. Cheers, Constance -

[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-21 Thread Nate Aune
>> Maybe "integration" is better than "customization"? > > I think integration is a bit more of a loaded word. I can imagine many > potential customers saying 'but I don't need any integration!'. I really > like the graph, but yes I think we need a way to better show proportions and > what you ar

[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-20 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 20 Oct 2008, at 01:03, Alexander Limi wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed, thanks for taking the lead on this Constance. My favourite slide is the $50k one too. :) Ye

[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-20 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Indeed, thanks for taking the lead on this Constance. My favourite slide >> is the $50k one too. :) >> > > Yes, this is visually a very powerful way

[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-19 Thread Nate Aune
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indeed, thanks for taking the lead on this Constance. My favourite slide is > the $50k one too. :) > Yes, this is visually a very powerful way to show the differences between commercially licensed CMSes and customizable ope

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2008-10-19 Thread Tim Knapp
Hi Constance, IMHO I agree with Nate on the 'more pictures' philosophy (and I'm a closet Seth Godin fan ;). I feel the slides you've posted, though content-wise are great, are a little too wordy and I like Nate's "10 things you probably .." presentation's generous use of images and therefore would

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2008-10-19 Thread Constance Kobylarz
Hi Tim, I have found a way to convert Nate's slides so that they can be included in the WPD 2008 slide deck. Are there any other individual slides from the other presentations that are a "must" for inclusion in the main slide deck? Constance -Original Message- From: Tim Knapp [mailto:

[Evangelism] RE: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck

2008-10-19 Thread Constance Kobylarz
Hi Nate, Thanks for the great suggestions on the CMS comparison. I have already incorporated Mark Corum's excellent edits to the slides I sent out. Perhaps I should modify the chart to show relative cost to get to a specific result rather than how a specific amount of money is used? Re: o