>> Maybe "integration" is better than "customization"? > > I think integration is a bit more of a loaded word. I can imagine many > potential customers saying 'but I don't need any integration!'. I really > like the graph, but yes I think we need a way to better show proportions and > what you are getting. I think most of us here would agree that with OSS the > total cost would be lower, so I'm wondering if we might want to not have 50K > for both. The problem then is what *do* we say for both... as we are just > showing example indicative costs of some theoretical project....
Yeah, both "integration" and "customization" are loaded words. The bottom line is that if you only have $100k to spend on a CMS, a commercial CMS will consume $30-50k in license fees, which means less money available to do more interesting things like training, support and enhancements. I know one large non-profit that chose a commercial intranet solution over Plone because the commercial vendor included everything in the pricing, and the product appeared to do more "out-of-the-box" whereas Plone appeared to require a lot of customization to get it to do what the commercial product was offering. We need better marketing materials to show what Plone is capable of providing out-of-the-box, and how it can be easily extended with 3rd party add-on components. Otherwise, we're going to continue to get reamed by these vendors hawking proprietary CMSes. I've added the Powerpoint and Keynote versions of the two World Plone Day presentations to this page: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials You have to click on the "View attachments" link at the bottom to see the file attachments. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms _______________________________________________ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism