Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its consequent effects on society are observable. The bans are in thus in the larger interest. However, if cannabis and other drugs have some medicinal benefits, then the research should continue to find the correct,

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Apr 2014, at 22:33, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Physorg runs a report today in which brain abnormalities are linked with cannabis use, http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-04-casual-marijuana-linked-brain-abnormalities.html#ajTabs Sounds pretty serious. Sure, and we have to take

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2014, at 00:52, meekerdb wrote: On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to create laws that were desired a priori by some interest group. That implies some

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to create laws that were desired a priori by some interest

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its consequent effects on society are observable. The bans are in thus in the larger interest. This does not follow. Banning intoxicant augments the intoxicant

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
On 19-Apr-2014, at 1:15 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its consequent effects on society are observable. The bans are in thus in the larger

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread spudboy100
No wonder you guys are so enthusiastic about anthropogenic warming ( I concur but not like you do) cause you been rock'in the Ganj!! Y'all voted for Bob Marley for PM, and he's been off-planet for 25 years. Irae mon. Your ears hearing the skankin sounds while yer butt be feeling those spanking

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread spudboy100
Interesting, however, religion itself can an intoxicant, with the promise of paradise with many, many, willing females, and wine is permitted, and eternal life, if one merely, throws caution to wind and becomes a shaheed. What are a few years in this valley of tears, compared to paradise? An

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
There are many 'interesting' things to learn about Islam only if one is willing to look beyond the prejudices. The more one studies and contemplates on the Quran and the world, the more one falls in love with God. It is intoxicating, it's an amazing feeling! Samiya On 19-Apr-2014, at 6:12

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread ghibbsa
On Friday, April 18, 2014 11:52:59 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote: On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to create laws that were desired a priori by some interest group.

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread spudboy100
Well, I am more focused on human behavior, and what happens to humans in this world. If such a spiritual intoxication leads to an ecstatic, plunge into violence, a holy violence, then a reasoning person may pause, and ponder what is lost, what is gained, and what is the damage done? Rather

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
People do many strange and horrid things in the name of religion or nation or some other pretext. Violence has been perpetrated by the Crusaders, by the Nazis, by the Buddhists in Bhutan, by the Hindus in the Kashmir, Babri Masjid, by the Jews in Palestine, the Soviets in Afghanistan, the US and

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2014, at 09:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to

RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Chris de Morsella
Samiya – Has Islam never participated in perpetrating violence against others; in conquest? Islam is as guilty as the other Abrahamic faiths, as an agent of violence in human history. Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy100@aol.com7 No wonder you guys are so enthusiastic about anthropogenic warming ( I concur but not like you do) cause you been rock'in the Ganj!! Y'all voted for Bob Marley for PM, and

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 12:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 00:52, meekerdb wrote: On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to create laws that were desired a priori by

RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:38 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate. On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM,

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 12:37 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Then, the cultivation of industrial help -- which is not psychoactive -- was also made illegal. Industrial has a wide range of applications: paper, fabric, building material and cheap protein source, to name a few. It threatens several industries and

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 1:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its consequent effects on society are observable. The bans are in thus in the larger interest. This does not follow. Banning

RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb On 4/19/2014 1:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2014, at 12:35, Samiya Illias wrote: On 19-Apr-2014, at 1:15 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants for the individual and its consequent effects on society are

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 8:17 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: There are many 'interesting' things to learn about Islam only if one is willing to look beyond the prejudices. The more one studies and contemplates on the Quran and the world, the more one falls in love with God. It is intoxicating, it's an amazing

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread LizR
On 20 April 2014 09:46, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/19/2014 8:17 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: There are many 'interesting' things to learn about Islam only if one is willing to look beyond the prejudices. The more one studies and contemplates on the Quran and the world, the more

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 4:25 PM, LizR wrote: On 20 April 2014 09:46, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/19/2014 8:17 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: There are many 'interesting' things to learn about Islam only if one is willing to look beyond the prejudices.

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
All substances are poisons; there is none which is not a poison. The right dose differentiates a poison…. Paracelsus (1493-1541) Paracelsus did a fair job with those few words. Indeed love, theology, belief, water, books, and a large variety of concepts and behaviors could qualify as substance

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread LizR
I agree. (Even chocolate may be a poison, although I haven't yet completed my investigations.) On 20 April 2014 12:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.comwrote: All substances are poisons; there is none which is not a poison. The right dose differentiates a poison…. Paracelsus

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
Chris, I was replying to Spudboy100 who refuses to consider the Quran because of the 'jihadis' 'behavoir' . The point I was trying to make is that some people, from all religious persuasions, do strange and at times horrible things. We need to look past people and their behaviours, and examine the

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread LizR
On 20 April 2014 15:15, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I was replying to Spudboy100 who refuses to consider the Quran because of the 'jihadis' 'behavoir' . The point I was trying to make is that some people, from all religious persuasions, do strange and at times horrible

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 12:35, Samiya Illias wrote: On 19-Apr-2014, at 1:15 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Apr 2014, at 08:42, Samiya Illias wrote: The harmful effects of the consumption of intoxicants

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 April 2014 15:15, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I was replying to Spudboy100 who refuses to consider the Quran because of the 'jihadis' 'behavoir' . The point I was trying to make is that some people,

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread LizR
On 20 April 2014 16:01, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 April 2014 15:15, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I was replying to Spudboy100 who refuses to consider the Quran because of the

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2014 9:01 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: Including Uri Geller, UFOs, a thousand people who want to prove Einstein wrong, Borley Rectory, the people trying to sell me something from Nigeria, the Loch Ness monster, Ouija boards, Thor, Zeus, Odin and so on - yes, no doubt one

Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

2014-04-19 Thread LizR
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg On 20 April 2014 16:54, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/19/2014