No wonder you guys are so enthusiastic about anthropogenic warming ( I concur but not like you do) cause you been rock'in the Ganj!! Y'all voted for Bob Marley for PM, and he's been off-planet for 25 years. Irae mon. Your ears hearing the skankin sounds while yer butt be feeling those spanking sounds. On the other hand in the US we elected a constitutional lawyer and head of the choom gang our president. See, the climate gets warmed up by all yer bongs. That's it.
-----Original Message----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 8:45 am Subject: Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate. If one places Cannabis' danger into perspective of danger of other poisons, you can however point to relative safety and potential efficacy as medication for a variety of ailments. See Prof. David Nutts research that was brought up on this list in the past. And yet nobody states seriously that any poison is harmless; we just seem to live in a world that can't do without them on a variety of levels at this time. From fossil fuels to heroin. PGC On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote: The "causes schizophrenia" is correlation based conjecture. Not strongly convincing, because I bet all the subjects consumed sugar and were involved in variety of other behaviors and consumptions. People don't live in test tube and the results of questionnaires and tests of this sort should be taken with a large grain of salt. It's just easy science to make money with and get funds for, from appropriate interests. To be able to single out that it was the Cannabis in all these people's lives as exclusive cause, and not merely trigger of latent tendency, is too strong. You can say "we suppose, correlation, because reason x, sample size y". A lot of things can precipitate psychosis in patients that already have some predisposition. We're talking poison, so ghibbsa, you're barking up the wrong tree if you're claiming that some people claim it "innocent". But you're right: it's more the world that people live in than the poison itself. If your perspective is a dead end job of being mechanically exploited and underpaid below ability to survive and make a living, and no exit is palpable, then you have increased poison use; without that, I think we'd see more breakdowns, psychosis, and crimes happening. It is asking too much to expect that segment of society to function "properly" while being shafted. PGC On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, <ghib...@gmail.com> wrote: On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:52:50 AM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 Apr 2014, at 08:41, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:28:26 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:28:02 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:03:09 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi, A good sum up of the how and why cannabis might cure cancers. You can understand the mechanism and the probabilities. It is a pretty good movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bMt83_IWkE We knew this since 1974. Promising research on cancer treatment were purposefully broke down. How could we hope rational decisions with respect to climate when we tolerate brainwashing, even a sort of revisionism, on cannabis/hemp, and cancers? The problem is not stupid politicians, it is clever bandits. The prohibition of cannabis deserves truly the Nobel Prize, in Crime. But it might also be their fatal error, I think. I think the world will get closer to paradise when the humans will stop confuse p -> q with q -> p. That confusion is exploited by the fear sellers (pseudo-religious or not). Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ It's a load of rubbish Bruno. Cannabis ha sorry...it sorry again. It's a load of old cobblers because cannabis has been available to researchers throughout. When I read Jack Herer a long time ago, I leave the book away when I came to the chapter where he claimed that cannabis cures might cancer (and did cure some cancer for mice in 1974). I thought the hippies was going crackpot on this. That was to gross. But when in 2009 a spanish team rediscovered that fact(*), I have scrutinized both the allegation of cure, and the allegation that rserach on cannabis was discouraged. That second point is rather clear in the US where cannabis is schedule one, making research quite difficult from the administrative perspective (virtually impossible in most universities). The first point is now accepted in the mainstream, but the media and the doctors ignore it, probably because cannabis is illegal. You might read: (*) http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948 (original spanish paper) http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.html You can find many papers on cannabis and cancer here: http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/cancer.htm Why would anyone want to obstruct a cure for cancer? No one would care what it was. olu Those who profits from selling expensive treatment for cancer. Those many who want hemp staying illegal. But it isn't a cure for cancer. Nothing is a cure for cancer in this way. Cancer survival rates are up on 30 years ago. Controlling for earlier intervention do you know how much lung cancer survival rates have changed ? They haven't. Nothing has changed. catch it early and you've got a chance. Leave it just a few more weeks and now that cancer is evolving. It's made up of more and more descendent cell lines...each one mutating, now different ancestries are fighting and destroying,. Now a week later there are millions more., You might kill one line but the next one is immune because now it's multiple mutations later and it's totally different and the colour is maybe green. In the firs or few weeks it's just a few descrendent lines..they are young, they aren't mutating like crazy yet. Nothing is going to cure cancer. Not in this scientific revolution. They'll fix maybe the cancerous non-encoding dna. But that'll be a symptom...cancerous cells are multiply disfigured...and more keep showing up. Smoke dope fuck the pope but it'll give you cancer before it cures anything. Those who have tried to prove this are those who discovered the benefices instead. I let you search on the links above. thi By the way I know at least 2 people that got institutionalised with schizophrenia as a direct outcome of dependent pot smoking. That's the only thing either of them ever did anyway 2 people is not a statistics, and when the statistics are done properly, it seems only that people with schizophrenia, or potential schizophrenia, tend to medicate themselves with cannabis, explaining some previous correlations. If you have a reference on cannabis leading to schizophrenia, containing serious statistics, I would be interested to know. I did not find any. Bruno Two friends seems like a lot to me...I didn't know that many people. It isn't a reason to go one way or the other, on its own. It's not a very innocent substance seen through my experiences. A lot of people - maybe the majority even - had really dependent behaviour around it...stayed that way for years. I hated it...it made me really paranoid.....I'd sometimes be sitting there frozen just waiting to come back down. Not that many people such an intense effect. But I think that things look different viewed through what things were like for kids in the underclass and children's homes. There wasn't necessarily going to be one chance to escape. Life wasn't something that anyone was enjoying very much...drugs could a lot of that away, could feel really nice. Kids in that world caved in to drugs eventually and they wouldn't want to come back, and usually didn't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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