Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Dec 2014, at 22:09, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 10:27 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: World's oldest

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Dec 2014, at 19:26, meekerdb wrote: On 12/7/2014 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We are better for the survival, but we might be astonished for the quality of life, even of the poors. It is very hard to judge. We have much more depression and suicides, we have much more elderly

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Dec 2014, at 14:09, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 05 Dec 2014, at 17:20, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Dec 2014, at 22:17, LizR wrote: On 8 December 2014 at 01:30, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Dec 2014, at 10:37, LizR wrote: That's a curious question. The ruins and record indicate that there was no ancient civilisation that had anything like the knowledge or resources

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2014, at 04:55, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is stated that the ancients had been given much more, and we haven't been given a tenth of

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: At one time the human race was knowledgeable enough to construct the Antikythera Mechanism, but 200 years after it was made Jesus was born and started a major world religion, and 630 years after Jesus Mohamed was born and

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: What are your thoughts about the huge, earthquake-proof megalithic stone structures around the world I think they were utterly ridiculous. The Romans with their aqueducts and roads were the first to have epic engineering

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Richard, On 07 Dec 2014, at 15:16, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno, You seem to be arguing that the total energy in the multiverse is a constant. Is that so? I think indeed, assuming QM (without collapse), that the total energy of the multiverse is constant, and even equal to zero.

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Hi Richard, On 07 Dec 2014, at 15:16, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno, You seem to be arguing that the total energy in the multiverse is a constant. Is that so? I think indeed, assuming QM (without collapse),

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread meekerdb
On 12/8/2014 2:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Dec 2014, at 19:26, meekerdb wrote: On 12/7/2014 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We are better for the survival, but we might be astonished for the quality of life, even of the poors. It is very hard to judge. We have much more depression and

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2014-12-08 Thread Cedric Knight
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Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2014, at 11:36, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Dec 2014, at 14:09, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 05 Dec 2014, at 17:20, Telmo Menezes

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread meekerdb
On 12/8/2014 2:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Dec 2014, at 22:17, LizR wrote: On 8 December 2014 at 01:30, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Dec 2014, at 10:37, LizR wrote: That's a curious question. The ruins and record indicate that there

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread meekerdb
On 12/8/2014 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Dec 2014, at 04:55, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com mailto:samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is stated that

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 , meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Atheists have no religious beliefs Of course they don't, but just because something isn't true will never EVER stop religious nincompoops from saying it over and over and over and over and over again. I became a atheist when I was 12

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread John Mikes
Hi, Bruno, do you have a short (reasonbly WORDED???) explanation for what you call ENERGY? I asked this question from several physicists and did not get an answer I could even follow (not: understand, of course). Math summersaults do not help. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Bruno Marchal

Divesting from fossil fuels

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
http://gofossilfree.org/creative-action-ideas/ While I'm on the subject... http://ln.is/bit.ly/1ClIO http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/nature-does-not-negotiate-Typhoon-Hagupit/blog/51613 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Sunlight converted to energy at over 40% efficiency

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
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Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
On 8 December 2014 at 18:38, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: What are your thoughts about the huge, earthquake-proof megalithic stone structures around the world, the planned cities of the Indus civilisation, the astronomical alignment and knowledge of precession with which the

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
On 8 December 2014 at 23:44, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 07 Dec 2014, at 22:17, LizR wrote: On 8 December 2014 at 01:30, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Dec 2014, at 10:37, LizR wrote: That's a curious question. The ruins and record indicate that there was no

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
On 9 December 2014 at 07:50, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 , meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Atheists have no religious beliefs Of course they don't, but just because something isn't true will never EVER stop religious nincompoops from saying it over and

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-08 Thread LizR
On 8 December 2014 at 23:36, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: You can notice the subtle change in the meaning of being a skeptic. The original meaning is very close to agnostic but it has been slowly sliding into a strong preference for common sense, which is to say, the belief of