Re: The size of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:37 AM Russell Standish wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:05:08PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything > List wrote: > > > > > > On 5/23/2020 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > > Well, those are theorem provable in very weak theories. It is more a > > > question

Re: The size of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:05:08PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: > > > On 5/23/2020 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > Well, those are theorem provable in very weak theories. It is more a > > question of grasping the proof than subscribing to a philosophical idea. > >

Re: The size of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:33:03PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Is it correct to say that almost surely any sequence can be found? > > > Hmm… “almost” has already a technical meaning in computer science. It means > for > all but a finite number exceptions. It existential dual is “there

Re: "Shape" of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 4:32:05 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 8:30:10 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 11:18:15 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 6:26:08 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell

Re: "Shape" of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 8:30:10 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 11:18:15 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 6:26:08 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> You cannot of course circumnavigate the spatial manifold of the >>>

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/23/2020 11:51 AM, smitra wrote: My point is that identity is an intrinsic property of what something is now. The history of the of the constituent particles have no affect on the behaviors or operation of those particles. To say the history is relevant to identity is to add an arbitrary

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/23/2020 11:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 1:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 5/23/2020 1:42 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Friday, May 22, 2020, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: The size of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/23/2020 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, those are theorem provable in very weak theories. It is more a question of grasping the proof than subscribing to a philosophical idea. That arithmetic executes all programs is a theorem similar to Euclid’s theorem that there is no biggest

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread smitra
On 23-05-2020 20:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 5/23/2020 1:42 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Friday, May 22, 2020, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 5/22/2020 1:48 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 1:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 5/23/2020 1:42 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Friday, May 22, 2020, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/22/2020

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/23/2020 1:42 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Friday, May 22, 2020, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 5/22/2020 1:48 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: Coordinate time vs Proper time

2020-05-23 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/22/2020 11:25 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 11:03:40 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 5/22/2020 9:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 9:05:23 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 5/22/2020 6:26 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday,

Re: The size of the universe

2020-05-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 May 2020, at 19:11, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:23 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 21 May 2020, at 21:43, Jason Resch > > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:33 PM Bruno Marchal >

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 7:48 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 23 May 2020, at 01:31, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:48 AM Jason Resch wrote: > >> >> If Holebo's theorem remains fundamental problems, then let's move >> everything into virtual reality, and repeat the experiment.

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 May 2020, at 01:31, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:48 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > > If Holebo's theorem remains fundamental problems, then let's move everything > into virtual reality, and repeat the experiment. > > In one case your

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 May 2020, at 22:48, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > > On 8/4/2019 10:44 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Friday, August 2, 2019, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything

Re: STEP 3

2020-05-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Friday, May 22, 2020, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 5/22/2020 1:48 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 8/4/2019

Re: Coordinate time vs Proper time

2020-05-23 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 11:03:40 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/22/2020 9:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 9:05:23 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/22/2020 6:26 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 3:28:40 PM UTC-6, Alan