David,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not suggesting that non-existence/radical
absence contains a property or definition because I agree that it would then
not be non-existence. I'm suggesting that non-existence is the complete
description/definition of what is present and can therefore be
Bruno Marchal wrote:
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Bruno Marchal wrote:
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Bruno Marchal wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>> There are differences between people that do not make a difference to
>> their intelligence or (by assumption) their consciousness.
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> Definitely. But only certain kinds of differences. Some differences
> which might seem insignificant to
On 09 Aug 2011, at 21:13, meekerdb wrote:
What more evidence would you need to believe mathematical objects
exist?
I haven't seen any evidence yet. Mathematical objects are
inventions of our minds dependent on language.
Are you not confusing human mathematical theories and the arithm
On Aug 10, 1:30 am, "Stephen P. King" wrote:
> > Sounds ok to me, although I would still say that the cosmos is more
> > than just information. I think of Sense (+chance) as the invariance
> > (+variance) between Essence (significance) and Existence (entropy).
> > Which would make Significance
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:54 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> There's the rub. What counts as "overall"? Can I replace one hemisphere of
> the brain that is functionally identical at its boundaries and guarantee
> that there is no change in consciousness?
Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced wi
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:54 AM, meekerdb wrote:
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> > There's the rub. What counts as "overall"? Can I replace one hemisphere
> of
> > the brain that is functionally identical at its boundaries and guarantee
> > that there is no cha
On Aug 10, 9:55 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced with a machine that is
> functionally identical at its boundaries but has a qualitatively
> different consciousness.
To me this is like saying 'suppose the Eastern United States is
replaced with a mac
On 9 August 2011 18:16, Roger Granet wrote:
> So, when I say that
> "non-existence is the complete description of what is present",
> by necessity, I'm jumping back and forth between two meanings of
> non-existence. The first "non-existence" in the phrase refers to
> non-existence itself and "wh
I believe Bruno said this. Could whomever did say that expand upon the
phrase?
Ronald
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
>> Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced with a machine that is
>> functionally identical at its boundaries but has a qualitatively
>> different consciousness. The left half of your left visual field will
>> then look different, by def
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> On Aug 10, 9:55 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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>> Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced with a machine that is
>> functionally identical at its boundaries but has a qualitatively
>> different consciousness.
>
> To me this is like
On 8/10/2011 10:27 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:55 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced with a machine that is
functionally identical at its boundaries but has a qualitatively
diffe
On 8/9/2011 9:48 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
That is explained as an illusion in GR for an eternal black hole.
In Susskinds theory the in-falling person is both smeared (in
strings) on the horizon and *also* destroyed in the singularity,
so that when the BH evaporates the informatio
On 8/10/2011 7:21 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Yes. Suppose your right hemisphere is replaced with a machine that is
functionally identical at its boundaries but has a qualitatively
different consciousness. The left half of your left v
On 8/10/2011 8:20 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Stathis,
Exactly how would we know that that component was unconscious?
What is the test?
Onward!
Stephen
Your just confusing things. It's a hypothetical. Craig holds that only
organic kinds of things can be conscious, so hypotheticall
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
>> Please explain what would you think would happen if you replaced part
>> of your brain with an unconscious component that interacted normally
>> with the surrounding neurons. Would you say "I feel different" or
>> would you say "I feel ex
David,
I believe you're right that I misspoke in my previous posting.
Thanks. What I meant was that if we consider non-existence itself and
not our mind's conception of non-existence, then that non-existence
itself (ie, that complete lack of all matter, energy, time, space,
ideas, mathematical
On 8/11/2011 1:14 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/10/2011 8:20 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Stathis,
Exactly how would we know that that component was unconscious?
What is the test?
Onward!
Stephen
Your just confusing things. It's a hypothetical. Craig holds that
only organic kinds of th
On 8/10/2011 11:24 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
And interesting choice of examples since that exactly what man has
done. The speed of light is nothing but a conversion constant
between units. In 1983 the speed of light in SI units was *defined*
to be 299,792,458 m/s.
Umm, not so fast. The
On 8/11/2011 1:14 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Please explain what would you think would happen if you replaced part
of your brain with an unconscious component that interacted normally
with the surrounding neurons. Would you say "I fee
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