Le 19-juil.-12, à 15:56, R AM a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
Le 18-juil.-12, à 15:28, R AM a écrit :
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
I gave a definition of compatibilist free-will which is not "without
coercion". I define free-wi
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
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Unto Others
BY MICHAEL SHERMER
It is the oldest and most universally recognized moral principle that
was codified over two millennia ag
Le 19-juil.-12, à 18:00, meekerdb a écrit :
On 7/19/2012 6:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 18-juil.-12, à 20:48, meekerdb a écrit :
Then, by the most common definition of atheism, atheists are
doubly believer as they verify, with B for "believes": B~g and Bm.
Science is or should be
Le 19-juil.-12, à 18:56, John Clark a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
Complete information is NEVER available,
That is false. usually we make choice with (relative) complete
information. I want tea, and I do have tea, I know the price, etc.
but there is ALWAYS enoug
Le 19-juil.-12, à 21:46, Stephen P. King a écrit :
Dear Bruno,
I need to slow down and just address this question of your as it
seems to be the point where we disconnect from understanding each
other.
On 7/19/2012 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
At this stage I will ask you to defin
Le 19-juil.-12, à 22:30, John Clark a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
Maybe that's what the smarter ones think privately but that is most
certainly NOT what they preach to their congregation on Sunday, if
they even hinted at such a thing they'd be excommunica
Hi Stephen,
I appreciate very much Louis Kauffman, including that paper. But I
don't see your point. Nothing there seems to cast any problem for comp
or its consequences.
Why not read the MGA threads directly, and address the points
specifically?
Bruno
Le 20-juil.-12, à 05:34, Stephen P.
Le 20-juil.-12, à 20:02, meekerdb a écrit :
On 7/20/2012 8:40 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Jason,
The problem that I see with this definition is that it makes
existence contingent and not necessary. The contingency (or
dependence in the weaker case) on the capacity of "having object
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> so we end up making no choice at all or we make a choice based on
>> nothing, in other words at random.
>>
>
> > I don't believe we can make choice at random.
Fine, I don't think that's true but as far as this discussion goes it
wouldn't matter if i
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> My favorite catholic theologians has eventually been excommunicated
> indeed, and got professional problems,
And so they are no longer catholic theologians, they should be proud of
their excommunication and shout from the rooftops "Good riddance to b
On 7/21/2012 5:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
Original Message
Unto Others
BY MICHAEL SHERMER
It is the oldest and most universall
On 7/15/2012 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> your [SPK] argument above cannot work. For in Darwin the observer emerges
> from computations too, even is physical.
>
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
> You are still thinking in reductionist and well-founded terms,
>
Th
On 7/21/2012 6:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 21:46, Stephen P. King a écrit :
Dear Bruno,
I need to slow down and just address this question of your as
it seems to be the point where we disconnect from understanding
each other.
On 7/19/2012 10:22 AM, B
On 7/21/2012 7:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
I appreciate very much Louis Kauffman, including that paper. But I
don't see your point. Nothing there seems to cast any problem for comp
or its consequences.
Why not read the MGA threads directly, and address the points
specifically?
On 7/21/2012 1:45 PM, John Clark wrote:
On 7/15/2012 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> your [SPK] argument above cannot work. For in Darwin the
observer emerges from computations too, even is physical.
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Stephen P. King
mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wro
On 7/21/2012 2:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
Original Message
Unto Others
BY MICHAEL SHERMER
It is the oldest and most universall
On 7/21/2012 3:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 18:00, meekerdb a écrit :
On 7/19/2012 6:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 18-juil.-12, à 20:48, meekerdb a écrit :
Then, by the most common definition of atheism, atheists are
doubly
b
On 7/21/2012 4:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 22:30, John Clark a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Maybe that's what the smarter ones think privately but that is most certainly NOT what
they preach to their congregation on Sunday, if they even hi
On 7/21/2012 5:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK. And it is here that "conventional physics" has a problem, for to relate observations
with perceptions they rely on the physical supervenience thesis, which does no more work
when comp is assumed.
It is only a problem in that the explanation is in
On 7/21/2012 3:58 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/21/2012 2:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
Original Message
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BY MICHAEL SHERMER
On 7/21/2012 7:08 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 7/21/2012 3:58 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/21/2012 2:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
Original Message
On 7/21/2012 10:12 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/21/2012 7:08 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 7/21/2012 3:58 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/21/2012 2:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Le 19-juil.-12, à 06:47, meekerdb a écrit :
This may be of interest to those recently discussing free-riders.
Brent
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