On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Sorry, everybody, I was snookered into believing that they had really
accomplished the impossible.
So you think this paper is fiction and the video is fabricated? Do people
here know something I don't
In the case of multigroup collaboration, where each group in made by
smaller groups that collaborate in a lesser degree than in each group
internally, the survival program to ascertain what is truth or not would be
as follows: (IMHO).
Any comunication has two main components of truth: The first
it is perfectly possible to accept natural selection with all the
implication in genetics without being a materialist.
The materialism is a superfluous ideological substrate. Sheldrake is right
about this critic of materialism. I´m not materialist, and I accept Natural
selection. Materialism is
Hi Alberto G. Corona
I have no problem with natural selection, it is a reasonable hypothesis.
But natural selection implies some form of intelligence, which materialism
cannot explain.
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Hi Stephen P. King
I agree. And would add that structurally liberalism is fascist.
Mainly in government control and control of beliefs.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Its simple. Quantum mechanics is nonphysical (is only mathematical).
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Hi Telmo Menezes
Well then, we have at least one vote supporting the results.
I remain sceptical because of the line sync issue.
The brain doesn't provide a raster line sync signal.
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Hi meekerdb
OK. I overreacted.
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Hi meekerdb
There are some errors in fact in the Bible, but IMHO it is
inerrant with regard to faith and practice. By inerrant, I mean that
it is completely consistent along those lines. You have to take it as
a whole.
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1/7/2013
Forever is a long time,
Hi meekerdb
Quantum fields are nonphysical, since they do not exist in spacetime.
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Hi meekerdb
So much irritation about my use of the word fascism !
There must have been a dozen postings complaining about its use here.
Could that not be a sign that liberalism, so prevalent here,
is a hidden form of fascism ? It seeks to control us.
To change us and society to conform to
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
Not everybody agrees, but...
Liberal Fascism
In the book, Goldberg argues that fascist movements were and are left-wing. He
claims that both
modern liberalism and fascism descended from progressivism,
and that prior to World War II,
Hi Alberto G. Corona
Wiords are socially constructed, so anything in words is suspect.
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On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:56 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:45 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion.
We're different. I am a retired laboratory scientist and
a pragmatist to boot. So to me, data trumnps everything.
So I will believe
Hi Roger,
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
Well then, we have at least one vote supporting the results.
Scientific results are not supported or refuted by votes.
I remain sceptical because of the line sync issue.
The brain
Hi Roger Clough,
The reason for this is that a hard problem theory doesn't have to
actually do anything, but a easy problem theory most certainly does.
Any hard problem theory will work just fine, any at all, but the
wrong easy problem theory will send a start-up company into
bankruptcy. So the
On 06 Jan 2013, at 20:07, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 6:56 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social
consequiences. When I say A. I don´t only say A is true. I say
also that because A is true and you must accept it because a set of
my
On 06 Jan 2013, at 21:59, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Not all physicists are materialists, or if they are, they are
inconsistent
if they deal with quantum physics, which is nonphysical.
All theories are non physical, but this does not make a materialist
theory inconsistent. With
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone.
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Hi Telmo Menezes
Yes, but the display they show wouldn't work if there were no
sync signal embedded in it. There's nothing in the brain to provide that,
so they must have.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
Yes, the theories are nonphysical, and in addition, quantum theories
quantum theory applies to quantum fields, which are nonphysical.
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Hi Richard Ruquist
Neither hard or soft solutions are valid
since they fantasize a meterial connection between
mind and brain. Which is absurd.
Leibniz is the only one to have solved the problem successfully.
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1/7/2013
Forever is a long time, especially
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
wrote:
Science is a religion by itself. Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Then God must get very board because that really doesn't leave much for
Because of the dominance of Leftists, people forget, sometimes deliberately,
about the murderousness, of Stalin and Mao. My peeps were burned up by ugly,
Adolf, but it doesn't excuse people from overlooking other mass killing
systems. A great historical compilation of Hitler and Stalin's
Well, another writer/scientist Bernardo Kastrup considered the universe a
run, like computation, because It/He/She is not complete. Hence, our lives, the
past, the future, and all that. Consider God, a word for Mind, and then pretend
that mind is a space alien, because It probably is, from
Hi spudboy100
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
So you have to treat it as an experimental hypothesis.
Assume that, and see how you life is changed. If at all.
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1/7/2013
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Hi spudboy100
While Hitler was the far Right, and Stalin of the far Left,
they were silmilar in that both creating dominating Big Government types.
Similar in that respect to today's liberals.
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On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown
to me many people are willing to abandon the idea of God but not the word
G-O-D. Those letters and in
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is
incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence to you
but God can not. That seems a bit odd to me.
John K
Hi Roger,
Imagine a very simple brain that can recognise two things: a cat and a
mouse. Furthermore, it can recognise if an object is still or in motion. So
a possible perceptual state could be cat(still) + mouse(in motion). The
visual cortex of this brain is complex enough to process the input
On 1/7/2013 4:43 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
There are some errors in fact in the Bible, but IMHO it is
inerrant with regard to faith and practice. By inerrant, I mean that
it is completely consistent along those lines. You have to take it as
a whole.
By which you really mean that
On 1/7/2013 3:30 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
In the case of multigroup collaboration, where each group in made by smaller groups that
collaborate in a lesser degree than in each group internally, the survival program to
ascertain what is truth or not would be as follows: (IMHO).
Any
On 1/7/2013 3:57 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion.
We're different. I am a retired laboratory scientist and
a pragmatist to boot. So to me, data trumnps everything.
So I will believe that the moon is made of green cheese
if
On 1/7/2013 4:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
But natural selection implies some form of intelligence,
You don't understand evolution.
Brent
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On 1/7/2013 4:58 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
Not everybody agrees, but...
Liberal Fascism
In the book, Goldberg argues that fascist movements were and are left-wing. He
claims that both
modern liberalism and fascism descended from progressivism,
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Then God must get very board because that really doesn't leave much for Him to
do. Why do you even bother to invent Him?
John K Clark
Any eternal God would be so bored after one eternity
On 1/7/2013 5:09 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:56 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:45 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 1/7/2013 6:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The way the brain encodes images is surely very complex and convoluted. Why not? There
wasn't ever any adaptive pressure for the encoding to be easily translated from the
outputs of an MRI machine. If we require all contact between males and females
On Monday, January 7, 2013 6:19:33 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Roger Clough rcl...@verizon.netjavascript:
wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Sorry, everybody, I was snookered into believing that they had really
accomplished the impossible.
So you
Hi Craig,
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Monday, January 7, 2013 6:19:33 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Roger Clough rcl...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Sorry, everybody, I was snookered into
On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown to me many
people are willing
On Monday, January 7, 2013 7:24:24 PM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote:
Hi Craig,
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