Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You cannot dance at two weddings as they in Texas. There are sometimes situations where things, I have to tell you, render themselves as Manichean, sorry to say. Sometimes, its they hand that we are dealt and are forced to play. Why have wars, if we don't have the tenacity and the

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-06 Thread LizR
On 5 July 2014 05:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/4/2014 1:36 AM, LizR wrote: On 4 July 2014 18:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: This kind of classification is fine as far as distinguishing believing god doesn't exist from failing to believe that god does exist.

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread LizR
On 6 July 2014 14:36, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Hey, I'm just a flying monkey, anyways. The most fearful thing in the movie were not the monkeys or the witch, but the tornado at the beginning, which at a young age I knew was real. Nyuck! I agree

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-07-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Jul 2014, at 10:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:05 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tyson is not

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Jul 2014, at 00:38, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? Jihadi terrorism is a real threat, no doubt on this. But the point is that there are growing evidences that

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jul 2014, at 23:36, meekerdb wrote: It merely degenerates to the self-sufficient micro-evolution of some aggregation of physical primitives; whatever is not entirely micro-physical is a further attribution *from the perspective of some implicit theory of knowledge*. To put it baldly,

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jul 2014, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote: On 7/4/2014 9:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Jul 2014, at 19:46, meekerdb wrote: On 7/3/2014 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Only a pseudo-scientist would say that the science progresses have put any threat on the non literal reading of any

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jul 2014, at 05:18, meekerdb wrote: On 7/5/2014 5:08 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Ok, maybe it's mostly a matter of semantics. I don't exclude things as not existing just because they are not part of the primitive ontology. But

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Jul 2014, at 05:18, meekerdb wrote: On 7/5/2014 5:08 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Ok, maybe it's mostly a matter of semantics. I don't exclude things as not

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sure, even under Bush, Terror won, for the simple fact he was reluctant to even name the enemy. Terrorism is a method, and not a person, and as you point out, and BHO and his party, come from a nuanced, progessivist, view, of focusing on a 'social democracy' which provides goods and services

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-06 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: All of these studies reference externally received radiation No they do not. The primary source of natural background radiation is Radon gas and people breathe it. Radon is

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-06 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: IIUC, the occupational acceptable limits are based on studies of survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (who actually received a range of different exposures, depending on how screened they were at the time of the

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:46 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence You cannot dance at two weddings as they in Texas. There are sometimes situations where

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Sure, even under Bush, Terror won, for the simple fact he was reluctant to even name the enemy. Terrorism is a method, and not a person, and as you point out, and BHO and his party, come

RE: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 10:41 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How dangerous is radiation? On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via

RE: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 10:46 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How dangerous is radiation? On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Russell Standish

Re: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You do know the concept of asymmetrical warfare? I didn't say you have to agree with it, but please, acknowledge that historically its a strategy that has legs. So dismissing a few thousand fighters as a zero threat is insane. It would be insane if we ignore a re-purposed jihad against the US.

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:17 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence You do know the concept of asymmetrical warfare? I lived through the actuality of

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-06 Thread meekerdb
On 7/6/2014 4:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That's the whole point and burden of my analysis. So on that basis I disagree that the same kind of thing can be done in a physical theory. On the comp assumption, by contrast, belief in a truth and acting as if true, in conjunction with their truth

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-06 Thread LizR
At least in Western democracies, ISTM that politics and ideologies are in general kept away from children to a far greater extent than religion is (in religious households). Obviously you have some ideology taken in via the behaviour of parents - if they are status and wealth seeking, or heavily

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
So you never would support the use of US military forces under any circumstances, is this correct? Secondly, theres nothing more fascist,then a cadre of billionaires controlling the dem party. These boys out Koch the Koch's and one would be hedge fund manager and Marxist billionaire, George

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
In Robert Heinlein's vericose veined, juvenile novel, Starship Troopers, the right to vote was earned through service in an all volunteer military. I Never liked Heinlein's preachiness, and stridency, because, meh, if that was his mythical society of the 24th century, whats the real

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-06 Thread meekerdb
On 7/6/2014 2:37 PM, LizR wrote: At least in Western democracies, ISTM that politics and ideologies are in general kept away from children to a far greater extent than religion is (in religious households). When I six I learned the U.S. is a democracy. I demanded personal freedom and vote on

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-06 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:27 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/6/2014 2:37 PM, LizR wrote: At least in Western democracies, ISTM that politics and ideologies are in general kept away from children to a far greater extent than religion is (in religious households). When I six

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

2014-07-06 Thread LizR
On 7 July 2014 10:17, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: In Robert Heinlein's vericose veined, juvenile novel, Starship Troopers, the right to vote was earned through service in an all volunteer military. I Never liked Heinlein's preachiness, and stridency,

RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] So you never would support the use of US military forces under any circumstances, is this correct? You don't get to define my position for me in extreme terms that suit your