Re: Neurobiologists Find that Weak Electrical Fields in the Brain Help Neurons Fire Together

2011-02-06 Thread Colin Hales
Hi Russel & Gang, I just sent this around to an internal email group === Hi, It occurred to me that the latest empirical evidence surrounding brain endogenous fields (the subject of my PhD thesis) may be of general interest to the group. The actual scienc

Re: Are our brains in that VAT? Yep.

2011-02-06 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:53 AM, John Mikes wrote: > Stathis, > "upload the human brain?" > > I suppose (and hope) you are talking about the wider meaning of "brain", not > the physiological tissue (fless) figment the 2002 medical science tackles > with in our crania. THAT extended brain which

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread Andrew Soltau
Hi Bruno I will attempt to define the terms in a manner satisfactory to both of us, and maybe we will understand each other this way. CTM Computational Theory of Mind is the concept that "the mind literally is a digital computer ... and that thought literally is a kind of computation." from

Neurobiologists Find that Weak Electrical Fields in the Brain Help Neurons Fire Together

2011-02-06 Thread Russell Standish
Neurobiologists Find that Weak Electrical Fields in the Brain Help Neurons Fire Together http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/13401 Reminds me of what Colin says he is doing... Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread 1Z
On Feb 6, 5:30 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 06 Feb 2011, at 16:30, 1Z wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 8:51 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: > > >>> On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from thi

Re: Are our brains in that VAT? Yep.

2011-02-06 Thread John Mikes
Stathis, "upload the human brain?" I suppose (and hope) you are talking about the wider meaning of "brain", not the physiological tissue (fless) figment the 2002 medical science tackles with in our crania. THAT extended brain which is ready to monitor (report?) unexpect(able)ed mental function

Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-06 Thread 1Z
On Feb 6, 6:45 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 06 Feb 2011, at 16:37, 1Z wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 7:43 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 05 Feb 2011, at 14:14, 1Z wrote: > > >>> On Feb 4, 4:52 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 04 Feb 2011, at 13:45, David Nyman wrote: > > I am saying

Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Feb 2011, at 16:37, 1Z wrote: On Feb 5, 7:43 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Feb 2011, at 14:14, 1Z wrote: On Feb 4, 4:52 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Feb 2011, at 13:45, David Nyman wrote: I am saying that IF comp is true, then the laws of physics are derivable/emerging on

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Feb 2011, at 16:30, 1Z wrote: On Feb 6, 8:51 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from this pov. I dare say. But the Mathematical Multiverses do add a lo

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Feb 2011, at 12:26, Andrew Soltau wrote: On 06/02/11 08:51, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from this pov. I dare say. But the Mathematical Multiverses do

Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-06 Thread 1Z
On Feb 5, 7:43 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 05 Feb 2011, at 14:14, 1Z wrote: > > > > > On Feb 4, 4:52 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 04 Feb 2011, at 13:45, David Nyman wrote: > > >> I am saying that IF comp is true, then the laws of physics are > >> derivable/emerging on the computations, in

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread 1Z
On Feb 6, 8:51 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: > > > > > On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > >> That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from this pov. > > > I dare say. But the Mathematical Multiverses do add a lot more WRs > > than > > phy

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread Andrew Soltau
On 06/02/11 08:51, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from this pov. I dare say. But the Mathematical Multiverses do add a lot more WRs than physical multiverses. Pro

Re: Observers and Church/Turing

2011-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Feb 2011, at 01:02, 1Z wrote: On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: That's my point, COMP does not add more white rabbits from this pov. I dare say. But the Mathematical Multiverses do add a lot more WRs than physical multiverses. Prove this. Once you take into account the r