Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/5/23 Stephen P. King > On 5/22/2012 6:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2012/5/22 Stephen P. King > >> >> No, Bruno, it is not Neutral monism as such cannot assume any >> particular as primitive, even if it is quantity itself, for to do such is >> to violate the very notion of neutra

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread meekerdb
On 5/22/2012 4:22 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/22/2012 6:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/5/22 Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> No, Bruno, it is not Neutral monism as such cannot assume any particular as primitive, even if it is quantity itself, for to do such is

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/22/2012 6:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/5/22 Stephen P. King > No, Bruno, it is not Neutral monism as such cannot assume any particular as primitive, even if it is quantity itself, for to do such is to violate the very notion of neutrality

RE: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Everyone: Unfortunately I have been unable to support a post reading/creation activity on this list for a long time. I had started this post as a comment to one of Russell's responses [Hi Russell] to a post by Stephen [Hi Stephen]. I have a model (considerably revised here) that I have been d

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/5/22 Stephen P. King > On 5/22/2012 11:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 May 2012, at 14:36, Stephen P. King wrote: > > On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:42:01AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: > > On 5/21/2012 12:33 AM, Russell Standish wro

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/22/2012 11:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 May 2012, at 14:36, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:42:01AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/21/2012 12:33 AM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:06:05PM -0700

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 22, 12:49 pm, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > In addition to approving of one presented option and disapproving of > > another, > > Approved for a reason or approved for no reason. right > > > free will allows us to nominate our own option

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 21, 7:44 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> In a branching multiverse where all possibilities happen at a decision > >> point, some versions of you decide to type the sentence and others do > >> not. This could be completely determi

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-22 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > In addition to approving of one presented option and disapproving of > another, Approved for a reason or approved for no reason. > free will allows us to nominate our own option for approval. > Nominated for a reason or nominated for no

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Joseph Knight
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 5/22/2012 10:56 AM, Joseph Knight wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: > >> On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> snip >> >> Hi Russell, >> >> I once thought that consistency, in ma

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/5/22 Stephen P. King > On 5/22/2012 10:56 AM, Joseph Knight wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: > >> On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> snip >> >> Hi Russell, >> >> I once thought that consistency, in mathematics, was the indication

[1203.4026] Is the dream solution to the continuum hypothesis attainable?

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi, Adding to the excellent paper that Joseph linked: http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.4026 Is the dream solution to the continuum hypothesis attainable? Joel David Hamkins (Submitted on 19 Mar 2012) The dream solution of the cont

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/22/2012 10:56 AM, Joseph Knight wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote: On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: snip Hi Russell, I once thought that consistency, in mathematics, was the indication of

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 May 2012, at 14:36, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:42:01AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/21/2012 12:33 AM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:06:05PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: On 5/20/2012 9:27 AM, Ste

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Joseph Knight
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:42:01AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: > > On 5/21/2012 12:33 AM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:06:05PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: > > On 5

A comment on Colin McGinn's article

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
A comment on a remark in Colin McGinn's article in The New Statesman "The trouble with panpsychism is that there just isn't any evidence of the universal distribution of consciousness in the material world. Atoms don't a

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/22/2012 3:35 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/5/22 meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> On 5/21/2012 10:56 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/5/22 Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> On 5/21/2012 3:49 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/5/21 Stephen P.

Bases and other strange things

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Folks, Lizr's resent post got me thinking again about the concept of a basis and reading the wiki article brought up a question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basis_%28linear_algebra%29 "In linear algebra , a *basis* is a set of linearly ind

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/21/2012 6:26 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:42:01AM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/21/2012 12:33 AM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:06:05PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: On 5/20/2012 9:27 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: 4) What is the cardinality of "a

Re: The limit of all computations

2012-05-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2012/5/22 meekerdb > On 5/21/2012 10:56 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2012/5/22 Stephen P. King > >> On 5/21/2012 3:49 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> 2012/5/21 Stephen P. King >> >>> On 5/21/2012 7:54 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2012/5/21 Stephen P. King >>>